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song oracle
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Posted - 01/12/2004 :  05:35:31  Show Profile
Today's random song of the day is Jane the Queen of Love.

What do you think of it?

lyrics
Once my dear is not enough
Let me tell you about Jane she''s the queen of love
She’s the queen of love and she''s the bane
Of we who know wherever she goes she will reign
She will reign
She reigns

Jane, she''s the queen of love
Jane, she makes bumblebee love
You are the only one
Yeah that''s just what you are

I''ve been so blue
Sleeping till noon, darling
Watching cartoons
But I could not ease the pain
I hear the phone line
And I hope that isn''t you

Jane, she was my only love
Jane, and though our love is done
You are the only one
Yeah that''s just what you are

Jane, she''s the queen of love
Jane, she makes busybee love
You are the only one
Yeah that''s just what you are

You are the only one
Yeah that''s just what you are



Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  06:06:00  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage
I don't know what to think about this song.

Quite a typical FB song, in its construction. I think it's too easy for Frank to write that kind of songs, putting just a little bit of his talent inside (like "she makes busybee love", for instance). It sounds like many other FB songs, so it sounds great live, but I don't think there is a serious effort behind. For another songwriter, it could be OK, but for FB, it's just under average.


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  06:17:29  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Adnan, you're going to have to make your signature image smaller or choose a different one. Sorry.


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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  06:45:12  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
I love love love this song. Love it on the CD and absolutely love it live. I especially like the slow to fast part when they all kick in. Yahooooooooo...
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GoddessTheory
= Cult of Ray =

USA
675 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  07:04:35  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible

I don't know what to think about this song.

Quite a typical FB song, in its construction. I think it's too easy for Frank to write that kind of songs, putting just a little bit of his talent inside (like "she makes busybee love", for instance). It sounds like many other FB songs, so it sounds great live, but I don't think there is a serious effort behind. For another songwriter, it could be OK, but for FB, it's just under average.


["Beautiful, beautiful girl from the north"




Just wondering how I get into the "I know whether or not Frank Black put any effort into writing this song" club?

I seriously doubt that Frank just tossed this off and wiped it off with a tissue afterwards.

If he did, and THIS SONG is the result...I'll take his toss offs over anyone else's labor of Love any day.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 01/12/2004 :  07:59:14  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
This is a great song about my brother

but seriously I enjoy the begining with the Cowboy movie sounds




"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do"
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  09:04:15  Show Profile
This is a great song. After the intro, when Frank rips into the opening chords on the acoustic it's pure bliss.
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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =

Netherlands
391 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  09:33:33  Show Profile  Visit chickenwithtwoheads's Homepage  Click to see chickenwithtwoheads's MSN Messenger address
All I don't like about this song is the verse, it's just so non-melodic (is that a word?)
But then again: one of my favourite FB songs of all time!
One of the best melodies in a chorus I've ever heard!



I'm bored with the valleys and bored by the peaks. So I bought a ticket to the freaks
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George42
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USA
188 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  09:41:23  Show Profile
i agree that this is a pretty good song. i especially like the part that begins, "i've been so blue....". pretty good acoustic version of the song in the attached link (originally provided by 'mrgrieves')

http://www.kexp.org/aspnet_client/KEXPViewMediaGroup.aspx?rID=109&pID=528&fID=697&date=697
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:01:56  Show Profile
I love this song! I'm not so big on the "she makes Bumble Bee love" line though. What the heck is Bumble bee love? I had a couple of moths land on my leg the other night that were making "ugly moth love". That was a disgusting image that I never want to see again! I can only imagine Bumble Bee love would look kinda similar to that.
I'm probably just pissed that every living creature around me is getting to make love, except for myself.

Note to self - Get ass wart cream...For giant wart...On ass!
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GoddessTheory
= Cult of Ray =

USA
675 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:21:16  Show Profile
Maybe it's because of the ass wart...just, you know, kicking that around.

What DOES the line Bumble-bee love mean?
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STITCHES
= Cult of Ray =

USA
915 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:26:38  Show Profile
or because he's ugly

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THERE'S A TEAR IN MY BEER
'CAUSE I'M CRYING FOR YOU, DEAR
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Owen
- FB Fan -

USA
165 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:27:17  Show Profile
I think "She makes bumblebee love" is a reference to the yellow beetle transformer. He's widely acknowledged as the casanova of the robots in disguise set.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:34:22  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
hahah - owen, I'm full from lunch and that just makes my tummy hurt! hahahha

Swedish Chef's "Dumpling of Wisdom": Øder tis moodle in der noggin tu smacken der ouchey und vinger-slingers ur to smacken-backen und fix de morkin, yøobetcha!
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GoddessTheory
= Cult of Ray =

USA
675 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:38:44  Show Profile
More than meets the eye for sure.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:39:30  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
But seriously, the bee has a crapload of metaphorical meanings, but I think it was posited here that the most blatant symbolic reference, due to the title of the song, etc., was its symbolism in Jainism. The man himself has a link to a Jainism site in one of his profiles. I can't remember the exact reference....someone else? Or if you can gimmee a sec....

http://www.jainism.org/
http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~malaiya/jainhlinks.html

Swedish Chef's "Dumpling of Wisdom": Øder tis moodle in der noggin tu smacken der ouchey und vinger-slingers ur to smacken-backen und fix de morkin, yøobetcha!
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:39:40  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage
I must say it took me some time to appreciate this song. In fact, the more I listen to it, the more I like it.
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -

USA
1728 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:40:39  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage
Yeah, I think it's another one his songs that grows on you over time.

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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:42:33  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
In one reference, it is defining the practice of a Jain monk:

from http://www.arham.com/abt_jain3.htm
"Jain Monk

Right faith and Right knowledge usually go together, one should have faith in the one who is a spiritual climax of positive dynamism who is "Arhat" - Right Faith means, therefore the Faith in the Omniscient Teacher - "Arhat". Right conduct prescribed by Jainism is very difficult to observe. But if you have "Right Faith" right behaviour will come in the natural course. A Jain monk has no home of his own. He moves from village to village on barefoot. He does not shave but removes his hair by plucking. He keeps no extra clothes. He does not keep money. He meditates and prays in silence and solitude. He does not take bath, for there is life in water, (the water itself is a living entity). He does not want to hurt anyone, he does not cook, because there is life in fire. Solicits his requirements by visiting several house-holders but accepts equivalent to only a few morsels per family just as honey-bee gathers honey. He does not use vehicles in order to protect the life in particles of dust on the road. His every tissue and texture of life is beaming with reverence for life and this is the essence of Jainism.

From where does he get such enormous strength to observe "Right Conduct" prescribed by Jainism? The answer is rule of aspiration and strength. Higher the aspiration, higher is the flow of strength. "Right Faith" is the aspiration, which is the highest in case of Jain monks, and Right Conduct is born out of aspiration and it is also the highest. Therefore Jainism puts all its stress on "Right Faith". "Right knowledge" is a bridge between "Right Faith" and "Right Conduct". There are fundamental divisions of spiritual life, which Jainism introduces us."



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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:46:06  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
Someone of the faith (presumably) posted this on a philosophy forum (first -administrator- post on the page):

http://forums.philosophyforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=691

"This is an allegory of what life is like according to Jainism:

A jobless, starving person leaves their town and in desperation sets out on foot across the forest to try to find another town where life is better. Out of the forest comes an enraged elephant, charging at the man. There's a tall tree which could in theory be an escape, but the elephant is in between him and the tree. He climbs down into a well to escape from the elephant, holding onto reeds to keep himself from falling. He hears a noise and looks down to see a bunch of pythons at the bottom of the well looking up at him waiting for him to fall. He looks up and sees mice chewing on the reeds, and knows it's only a matter of time until they chew through and he falls. He hears the elephant waiting above... and now the elephant knocks a beehive down into the well onto him. In between bee stings a drop of honey hits the man's tongue... and instantly he forgets all about his predicament and savors the taste of the honey.

In this allegory the python is death, the mice are time, the bee stings are the common sufferings in life, the honey is the little pleasures we savor, and I don't recall what the elephant is (maybe attachment?). The tall tree is salvation."...

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Owen
- FB Fan -

USA
165 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  12:08:33  Show Profile
Whoa, the Jain Study Center at jainism.org is like ten minutes away from me. Should I sell all my worldly possessions, forgo the pleasures of bacon, and get Jainified to gain a deeper understanding of Frank. I've done lots of yoga and some tai-chi like thing so maybe I've got the necessary pre-reqs.

Through meditation comes clarity.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  12:38:48  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
I guess you should do whatever paints your wagon...;)

Coud be a sign. What's it say?

Swedish Chef's "Dumpling of Wisdom": Øder tis moodle in der noggin tu smacken der ouchey und vinger-slingers ur to smacken-backen und fix de morkin, yøobetcha!

Edited by - apl4eris on 01/12/2004 12:39:55
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Owen
- FB Fan -

USA
165 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  12:51:43  Show Profile
Make that like two minutes from my house. Road Trip!!!

I have pretty much cut dairy out of my life and I'm no longer dependent on Flonase® for allergy relief as a result. But I love the taste of dead animals. I'm just not sure how carnivorous vegans go over with Jainists.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  15:04:25  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by GoddessTheory

quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible

I don't know what to think about this song.

Quite a typical FB song, in its construction. I think it's too easy for Frank to write that kind of songs, putting just a little bit of his talent inside (like "she makes busybee love", for instance). It sounds like many other FB songs, so it sounds great live, but I don't think there is a serious effort behind. For another songwriter, it could be OK, but for FB, it's just under average.


["Beautiful, beautiful girl from the north"




Just wondering how I get into the "I know whether or not Frank Black put any effort into writing this song" club?

I seriously doubt that Frank just tossed this off and wiped it off with a tissue afterwards.

If he did, and THIS SONG is the result...I'll take his toss offs over anyone else's labor of Love any day.



Well, it's rather stupid to say "oh that song is really awesome" each time the oracle suggests a song. I can express my opinion (did you notice I said "i don't think"). If you want to join the club of people who express their opinions on things, feel free to contact me, and I will give you my account number so that you can pay me a membership fee.

Frank is such a great songwriter, there are so many of his songs that are really superior to "Jane the queen of love". Saying that "Jane the queen of love" sucks is justice for much better songs.
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Jayhawk
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80 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  15:41:48  Show Profile
I really dig the acoustic at the beginning. The chorus is another part I'm pretty fond of. A good-ass song.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  20:07:55  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
The ending reminds me of Sonic Youth. I really like this song.


"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open."
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andyn
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
169 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2004 :  07:01:18  Show Profile
A good one live cos everyone sings along with it, but it wouldn't be in my FB top 20.
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