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explosivo316
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 Posted - 01/12/2004 : 11:18:03
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Originally posted by interloper
You have to admit an alarming similarity between most GBV tunes, and Spinal Tap's "Cups and Cakes"
People can make the crisicism that a lot of GBV songs sound similar, but when you have a catalog as HUGE as Pollards, patterns will inevitably be drawn. But I could put together a CD of 30 songs that would sound like 30 different bands. |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 13:36:42
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Yeah, I don't want to be part of the elitist portion of fans who write off everything after Under the Bushes Under the Stars (also my pick for their best album, simply stunning). I agree that DTC, ID, UTAC and EG are all different sounding albums, but sometimes the songs within the album tend to blend together a bit. Not a huge gripe, considering Pollard has released close to 1000 songs.
P.S. I agree, all his solo albums are excellent and worth owning. Speak Kindly is the best, and for those who really enjoy Earthquake Glue, to me it sounds a lot like his 2001 solo album Choreographed Man of War. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2004 : 13:39:33
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1000 songs? I guess you'll have to at least double that
 "I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do" |
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interloper
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 15:38:19
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quote:
Originally posted by explosivo316
quote:
Originally posted by interloper
You have to admit an alarming similarity between most GBV tunes, and Spinal Tap's "Cups and Cakes"
People can make the crisicism that a lot of GBV songs sound similar, but when you have a catalog as HUGE as Pollards, patterns will inevitably be drawn. But I could put together a CD of 30 songs that would sound like 30 different bands.
I wasn't making a reference to all their stuff sounding alike, I was making a reference to all their stuff sounding like cups and cakes (oh what good treats mommy makes), but yeah, like em or not (and I do), you must admit, the guy's been writing the same five songs for twenty some years.
True cynics are nothing more than dissapointed idealists. |
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explosivo316
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 20:23:18
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| Well, I like 'em. And I'm sorry, but the fact that I could burn a CD of 30 songs sounding like 30 different bands proves the fact that "the guy has" NOT "been writing the same 5 songs for twenty some years". And if you want me to prove it I WILL... but you will have to put some kind of counter-offer up before I invest my time. Agree or not, you have to admit Pollard has a LOT more range than your assessment of "five songs." And if you reply "...ok then 6" then you will only prove how lame/wrong you are! |
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interloper
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 20:58:59
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Im not here for a gbv net scrimmage, I just respectfully disagree with you.
True cynics are nothing more than dissapointed idealists. |
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explosivo316
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 21:54:22
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| Respectfully: You mean to seriously claim that there are only 5 different-sounding GBV songs? I mean, I will respect your opinion, but you must certainly admit that this was a generalization on your part, to say the least. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2004 : 07:06:41
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Robert Pollard is a genius we all agree
so stop it
interloper and explosivo316
"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do" |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2004 : 09:28:14
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| Billgoodman, while Robert Pollard has no doubt written over 2000 songs, he hasn't yet released 1000. Getting very close though. |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2004 : 09:42:50
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Here's a couple different "types" of GBV songs I can think of:
The simple acoustic song, just Bob and an acoustic guitar: ex. Yours to Keep, Now to War, Bright Paper Werewolves
The infectious 2 minute Beatles type song: As We Go Up, We Go Down; Echos Myron, Watch Me Jumpstart
The commercial, well produced pop song: Glad Girls, Teenager FBI, Chasing Heather Crazy
The lengthy experimental multi-part prog type song: Portable Men's Society, Christian Animation Torch Carriers, Car Language
The one-off low-fi dirge that lasts 30 seconds: Evil Speakers, Cigarette Tricks, Pimple Zoo
The busty, catchy rocker: Everywhere With Helicopter, Bulldog Skin, Cut Out Witch
The noisy post-punk song: Love 1, Shocker in Gloomtown, Lethargy
The tape manipulated krautrock experimental song: Bee Thousand (the song), Her Psychology Today, all the Circus Devils albums
There are loads more, anyone else have any?
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STITCHES
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 01/13/2004 : 09:45:50
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there's also a GBV style I like to call 'the only GBV song I know by name': ex. "Big Boring Wedding"
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MY LOVE IS LIKE A TICKING CLOCK--BERSERKER!
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUCK MY COCK--BERSERKER! |
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interloper
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 01/13/2004 : 10:04:40
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Cups and Cakes....Cups and Cakes...oh what good treats mommy makes...
True cynics are nothing more than dissapointed idealists. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 01/13/2004 : 10:18:22
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Originally posted by Itchload
Billgoodman, while Robert Pollard has no doubt written over 2000 songs, he hasn't yet released 1000. Getting very close though.
you are right I got that wrong
he read somewhere that he wrote 2000
but that didn't mention releasing them
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2004 : 10:21:03
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Big Boring Wedding is actually a nice track, but it's not a GBV classic. You should try some more GBV stuff Stiches.
There's a GBV song called In Stiches, maybe it's about you!
(well of course it isn't, just said it to make you excited about GBV)
"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do" |
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STITCHES
= Cult of Ray =
USA
915 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2004 : 10:50:08
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what album is it from? if it's on UTBUTS, that would be great, as that one is already on my list of CD's to buy
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MY LOVE IS LIKE A TICKING CLOCK--BERSERKER!
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUCK MY COCK--BERSERKER! |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2004 : 10:59:17
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| It's on Do the Collapse STITCHES, which is generally regarded to be a weak GbV album, though I still like it every much. It certainly has the stink of Rick Ocasek all over it. But I think are some really strong songs on it, though "In Stitches" would not be one of my all time faves. |
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STITCHES
= Cult of Ray =
USA
915 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2004 : 11:05:48
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well then I think I'll stick to UTBUTS for now....I've got Universal Truths and Cycles because I read that it was going to be the album of the year, and it wasn't bad, but it was no Murray Street
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MY LOVE IS LIKE A TICKING CLOCK--BERSERKER!
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUCK MY COCK--BERSERKER! |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2004 : 11:18:00
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| PS. It's "My love FOR YOU is ticking clock". Improper grammar is the key to good Russain metal. |
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STITCHES
= Cult of Ray =
USA
915 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2004 : 11:22:08
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you're right....it's the other one that uses "like": my love for you is like a truck--berserker! do you feel like making fuck--berserker!" good call, speedy
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MY LOVE IS LIKE A TICKING CLOCK--BERSERKER!
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUCK MY COCK--BERSERKER! |
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surferben
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USA
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Posted - 01/14/2004 : 01:51:30
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i would have to say that alien lanes and bee thousands are absolutely, hands down gbv's magnificently best albums. isolation drills is quite good, but not quite in the same leauge. although, i like it all. i just am suprised that most people seem to be mentiong other albums as their best. to each their own. but alien lanes and bee thousand alone would put gbv in my short list of bands that matter.
and now i'm living in the cold but i'm looking for the sign |
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