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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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 Posted - 01/05/2004 : 11:58:05
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Frank's been inspired by a lot of musical pioneers...The Beatles, Bowie, Lou Reed and The Velvet Underground, Iggy...and he's inspired a lot of artists, including his predecessors.
Frank, your alright!
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Chip.
- FB Fan -
Ireland
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Posted - 01/06/2004 : 14:40:12
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What a fucking useless post.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 01/06/2004 : 14:56:38
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OK, I get to add to the mindlessnessness.
Follow this link to a wonderful world of fun, aka my undergraduate thesis. The joy, you say.
http://www.saeuk.com/research/briercliffe.pdf
If this doesn't work, seek help.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2004 : 15:25:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
http://www.saeuk.com/research/briercliffe.pdf
If this doesn't work, seek help.
Sweet Maria, that's hilarious. I'm definitely stealing that for my own evil purposes.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2004 : 15:28:36
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Umm. Good?
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
819 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2004 : 19:47:55
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I remember you talking about this awhile back and I wanted to read it. Thanks for the link, it should make for a good read.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 01/07/2004 : 03:27:52
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Ha. Don't count on it...
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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/07/2004 : 04:38:43
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Holy shit!
I just printed this out and then had to run and stand over the printer when I realised that it was an epic to rival War & Peace.
I will read this week and give you marks out of 10!
Makes me wish I'd done another degree course. My dissertation was snappily entitled 'Green Labelling for the Construction Industry". It's a rollercoaster ride of emotional highs and lows coupled with exciting insights into the murky world that is the UK construction industry. I'd post a copy on the web but I would be afraid that someone would steal my incredible findings.
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neo
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Canada
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Posted - 01/07/2004 : 06:06:04
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good read! was it graded yet? you seem well-versed in music structure. i mainly play their stuff by ear... unaware of the chordal lexicon. you put me in the mood to write.
on the surface, on first impression, the pixies amount to mostly a screaming chunk of flesh with a record deal. upon further inspection, you might also see that they were an act of surrealism (which was pretty directly addressed in Debaser):
sur·re·al·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-r-lzm)
n.
1. A 20th-century literary and artistic movement that attempts to express the workings of the subconscious and is characterized by fantastic imagery and incongruous juxtaposition of subject matter.
2. Literature or art produced in this style.
if you are willing to take a step back: that the pixies even existed as they did was a surrealistic work of absurdism. in most cases i suppose i'd have to back up a statement like that, but i'm going to say it's fairly self-evident to almost anyone bothering to read this.
they were not only consciously creating surrealist/alt music, but they themselves were a subconscious expression of a greater entity known as 'the Pixies'. this group of four's subconscious, the Pixies, by targetting our subconscious rather than our hearts or our wallets, ended up with both and spoke on a higher order, with an eclipsing voice louder in duration even than its singer.
here's an abrupt metaphor:
When a piece of sand gets inside the oyster's shell, the animal secretes a mucus like substance (called "nacre") around the sand to prevent irritation. In sea water, this secretion will harden and form into a pearl. The longer it sits inside the oyster's shell the bigger it gets because the pearl itself becomes an irritation to the oyster and it continues to secrete the nacre. The process will continue as long as the oyster lives, with the pearl getting ever bigger and bigger.
the pixies are a particularly potent 'strain of subconscious sand' in the oyster shell of the 'subconscious of a receptive mind'. so what's the pearl? on the surface, it's creativity and artistic products. these vary in quality to say the least. is this an end unto itself? i'd hazard a guess and say that there's more to communicating subconsciously than i understand, it seems like a critical element in the communal process of progress as well our basic sleep cycle. at a minimal amount it's vital, at high levels we advance and evolve. these things seem more scarce than i can remember nowadays.
not to get too serious on this subject, but despite the horror of 9/11, it satiated our mass psyche in a time when it was starving. which is also another reason i miss the 90's grunge era... even on our worst days back then, someone would create something decent enough that it would be at least feeding the beast table scraps. there's something disturbingly dysfunctional about a society that produces artistic crap for such long periods of time and has been treating its mass subconsciousness purely as a by-product, letting the creature atrophy in its state... but the nature of the beast changes over time as well. perhaps it's another thread in the web of causality of 9/11.
if i could sum up the pixies in a sentence it would be this: do not look at the finger pointing at the moon.
not that they wouldn't have a favorite finger to show you the way.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 01/07/2004 : 09:50:56
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Blimey.
What do I say to that?
Neo, I got a first for the thesis itself and a 2:1 for the degree overall, so I'm a happy bunny.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2004 : 05:09:54
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 Fucking hell! Sorry for that cheesy 'Influences' message! At least it 'influenced' that odd thesis post. Ok, I admit I hav'nt read it....
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