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dougit
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87 Posts |
 Posted - 12/08/2003 : 12:48:52
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make a tighter BLD...Cut 5 songs off it.
BLD would have been a tighter and possibly better album if it would have had its rough edges cut off.
So cut them, list 5.
(here are my cuts)
Southbound bevy
Black Rider (first One)
The Farewell Bend
True Blue
Wispering Weeds
(hard for me to come up with a 5th!)
I would never cut any f black songs, this has just been a fun exercise.... |
Edited by - dougit on 12/08/2003 12:50:41 |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 12:58:48
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I dunno about cutting Whispering Weeds, it's such a good closer (the two Black Riders are merely bookends so I don't really consider them openers or closers per se, but...).
I suppose I might swap that one for 1826, if we're talking about making the album more snappy, tight, and trim.
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dougit
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 12/08/2003 : 13:21:14
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yes, I like WW too, CoF.
Like I said, hard to pick a 5th song.
I do like WW less than 1826, however. Sure, 1826 is Frank Black doing a Gregorian-Chant-thing but it is artsy/punkish and ends strong....actually one of my favorites on the album, when I'm in the mood for it, which is most always.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 12/08/2003 : 13:35:11
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I would cut both versions of Black Rider, Black Letter Day (I must be the only person who's not very fond of it), 1826, and Whispering Weeds. The remaining 13 would be an incredible album.
 "Join the Cult of Dustin / And vanish without a trace" |
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2010 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 13:43:33
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Chip away boy
Black Letter Day
1826
Southbound bevy
The Farewell Bend |
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spoon
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Posted - 12/08/2003 : 13:53:03
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dougit, True Blue is amazing in its charming simplicity and keeping with the "tradition" of putting a minimalist/acoustic track in the mix. I am hurt. <g>
I agree with the rest.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 13:53:14
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This is horrifying! I lurrrve BLD just the way it is. Farewell Bend and Southbound Bevy are two of my favorite FB songs. Ever!
I am going to cry in the corner now... |
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =
USA
2677 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 14:15:48
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Blasphemers! Touch not a hair on its little black head! You damn kids and your short attention spans!
Memo to self: must go buy more exclamation points.
"I joined the Cult of Frank / And all I got was this lousy icon" |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 14:17:40
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 14:18:13
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Southbound Bevy. The second Black Rider. Whispering weeds. True Blue.
can't think of a fifth to eliminate.
 "I joined the Cult of Popeye / The CoF required my good eye" |
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 14:32:44
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quote:
Originally posted by ramona
This is horrifying! I lurrrve BLD just the way it is.
Me also!
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Originally posted by mereubu
Blasphemers! Touch not a hair on its little black head! You damn kids and your short attention spans!
Hear hear!!
"Joan my Clerk of Trompe / And You'll be chick-a-be enlightened" |
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karst
- FB Fan -
Sweden
10 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 14:50:50
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| Oh man, not The Whispering weeds.. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 18:42:15
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End of Miles
Whispering Weeds
21 Reasons
Black Letter Day *
Valentine And Garuda *
* Picked because you specified 5...Black Letter Day is easier to let go than Valentine...the first 3 I would chop off in a heartbeat.
 "I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open." |
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 19:18:00
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I dunno about cutting songs from it. I think the main problem is the order of the songs; they just don't flow right. But if I must cut 5 out (God I hate to do this) they'll have to be:
1. Black Rider 1 - replaced with the 2nd Black Rider as the 1st track. 1826 - It rocks but I don't feel that it fits with this album
3. Farewell Bend - should have been a b-side along with True Blue on what should have been a CA Bound single
4. True Blue - see above
5. 21 Reasons - Could have been a great song...if it was 3 minutes shorter. I think it was a great idea to leave it off DITS and it should have stayed like that for BLD
That's my revised BLD and I might also change the song order around a bit
 Join the Cult Of Gunn / and you'll never need a hair stylist again" |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 20:09:52
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I actually have never been huge on Black Letter Day either, it always seems like a lyrically/melodically simpler knock off of Robert Onion to me. Over time I've come to appreciate it as a "rocker" to help spice up an album of mostly mellow songs.
I agree with El Barto on hte much revered 21 Reasons. Good song for sure, but just too long, especially in the solo area.
In fact, any cuts I would make to BLD wouldn't be songs, it would be in the guitar solo-area. A little too "Skynyrd" for me.
All that aside, I think it's a truly diverse and memorable album, and I never grow tired of it during it's running time. |
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George42
- FB Fan -
USA
188 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2003 : 22:07:18
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| after "southbound bevy" i start to lose interest in the CD. the songs thereafter are ok....nothing spectacular. the first half, though, is really really good. |
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
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Posted - 12/09/2003 : 01:07:36
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If I were Frank I would have cut both versions of The Black Rider, to put them on the California Bound Ep...
1. California Bound
2. The Black Rider #1
3. Sunday Sunny Mill Valley Groove Day (for example)
4. The Black Rider #2
Btw, does anybody know why no single was released from BLD?
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 12/09/2003 : 01:31:50
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What? Cutting songs off BLD?? That's insane. It's my favorite FB album, and I don't see why it would be better with less songs. OK, if you insist, cut Black Rider #2. That's all I can accept.
Denis
"In the Cult of Frank/You don't even get backstage passes" |
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 02:43:21
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I think BLD days would be much improved if it was a bit snipped.
the 5 i'd take off:
The Black Rider x2
Whispering Weeds
1826
Farewell Bend
i was never too keen on black letter days (the song) until i heard it live when it absolutely rocked, so it gets to stay.
but if these 5 were taken off, a rearrange of the song order would definitely be required. |
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andyn
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
169 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 06:53:09
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| I'm absolutely astonished to read people voting for "Southbound Bevy", "Chip Away Boy" and "Valentine & Garuda" as dispensible tracks from BLD.They're among my favourites! It does strike me that the FB fanbase is split between those who prefer the heavy stuff and those who enjoy the sheer craft of his songwriting. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 07:11:47
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I can list the five songs that I would remove if I had to, but in the end, I'd rather have a full CD with as much FB material as possible, even if some songs are weaker than others.. they're still FB.
I can't imagine losing a song like End of Miles or Whispering Weeds or ...
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 12/09/2003 : 07:59:03
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| My least faves are 1826, Whispering Weeds, and The Farewell Bend, especially the first two. Most fave are End of Miles, Jet Black River, How You Went So Far, Valentine & Garuda, and True Blue. 21 Reasons sounds a little dim compared to the bootleg version that circulated around 1999(?), but it's still a great track and one I never skip. |
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sultanbigpants
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Posted - 12/09/2003 : 09:48:36
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| This isn't a totally absurd topic, but he who suggests cutting Chip Away Boy, is a totally absurd thinker. I'd cut the final Black Rider, 1826, and I'd shorten 21 Reasons and Jane the Queen of Love (Just a lil). |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 12:53:59
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I cannot believe End of Miles and 21 Reasons would be cut for you guys. Those are two of my favorite songs he's ever done. And why so many votes for Farewell Bend? Woosh.
"I joined the Cult of Popeye / The CoF required my good eye" |
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 12:55:46
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Geez.... i think it's perfect the way it is...
the second Black rider is one of my favorite songs man.
This box is too big to get out of... |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 12/09/2003 : 12:57:07
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| Noone likes 1826? |
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 13:00:12
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i do....
This box is too big to get out of... |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 13:05:44
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| good good, now give me a secret hint on the name that tune ;) |
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 13:11:24
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hehehe...well...let's see...
some refer to HIM as the king of cool....
This box is too big to get out of... |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 13:15:22
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| um, are you talking about Dean Martin??? |
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Cabonga
- FB Fan -
Antigua and Barbuda
53 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 13:25:11
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Monsieurs at nine! Cut the crap!
Die Hard |
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 13:31:24
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Umm..not Mr.Martin....
He has some sort of thing for mules....
This box is too big to get out of... |
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2003 : 13:35:03
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I should do this on the other post eh..?
This box is too big to get out of... |
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1118 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2004 : 19:26:25
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| How about you just make a best of Black Letter Days Tape? hehe...I for one wont complain about too many songs being on an album |
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2004 : 22:43:10
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"I Will Run After You"- I can't listen too it, the original is too good.
"The Black Rider"(number one)-it was a thousand times better when I saw them do it, both times.
"True Blue"
"Jane, the Queen of Love"- maybe it's better towards the end of it, I never get that far.
"1826"- maybe it's too little, too long.
I don't see how people don't like "Whispering Weeds"- it's like an outtake from "Graceland". |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
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Posted - 01/06/2004 : 04:18:58
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I like BLD alot.... but if I were to get rid of they would be:
both Black Riders.... as they are not Franks songs
I will run after you
1826 (although skip this one)
whispering weeds
thats my five if you count 2 BR's.
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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