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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/05/2003 :  16:18:24  Show Profile


I like the 'dad' polls the best. I'll be the subject of these soon.


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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 12/05/2003 :  16:27:18  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
If you can ever find the Essential Calvin & Hobbes Anthology, check out the illustrated poem at the start, the art is actually pretty great.
"The monster, in his consternation, demonstrated defenstration."

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"Same thing we do every night, Pinky: try to take over the world!"
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bedrock_barney
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United Kingdom
871 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2003 :  02:09:43  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by bedrock_barney

Who painted this then? It may surprise you.



(No cheating!!)




I'm sure the suspense is killing you all.

This was actually painted by Picasso when he was about 17! I think he rejected 'conventional' 19th C art soon after.

The mark of a genius. (I could barely tie my shoelaces when I was 17)


"I have been enslaved by the Cult of Ming / He is ever so merciless...unlike that nice Mr Black."

Edited by - bedrock_barney on 12/08/2003 02:10:28
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2003 :  05:57:16  Show Profile
Picasso is not my cup of tea. I guess I'm just more into the artists who improve more with time. I know that Picasso was trying to make a concious rejection and portray art in a way vastly different from his contemporaries, but I just never liked the end result.

I'm sure you all know people who say "THAT'S art?!!! My five year old son (or daughter) could draw better than that!" Well, maybe a five year old couldn't grasp the concept behind what was supposed to be represented by drawing in that style, but I can't help but think of this reaction when I see Picasso's art.

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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
871 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2003 :  07:45:15  Show Profile
Glacial. I here what you are saying (partly). I think that Picasso effectively earned the right to paint in a 'simplistic' style. He had proved early in his life that he could paint classical pieces of high quality (e.g. the Old Fisherman) but this obviously didn't move him artisically. Some of his work is very simply constructed but it should be remembered that he worked in many different mediums, tried his hand and sculptures, clayware and ceramics.

'Guernica' is an incredibly powerful piece of 20th C art which, I think, gets across the message much more effectively than it would if painted in, say oils with conventional figures.




What about your Wolf Kahn painting:



Pretty simplistic. My 6 year old could have a stab at it!!




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Scarla O
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Posted - 12/08/2003 :  08:08:01  Show Profile  Visit Scarla O's Homepage
Some Otto Dix maybe?



Take the Fauves, add one teaspoon of morphine and two sleeping tablets and you get Die Brucke...



Agit-PrOP-ART? Here, have some Banksy.





Edited by - Scarla O on 12/08/2003 08:37:29
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
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Posted - 12/08/2003 :  08:35:34  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
Niiiiice, Scarla O! I like I like!


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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2003 :  09:57:01  Show Profile
In response to Bedrock, I don't think that his "Old Fisherman" is a very good classical painting either. Picasso's unconventional style seems messy to me; maybe I'm just a perfectionist or as an artist maybe it's just not my thing. It all just boils down to personal taste.

I wouldn't defend Wolf Kahn as his work is somewhat simplistic, but it just appeals to me for some reason. Something about the way he uses colors.

If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.
Carl Sagan


Edited by - glacial906 on 12/08/2003 09:58:54
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Bryan Shepherd
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USA
126 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2003 :  17:03:24  Show Profile  Visit Bryan Shepherd's Homepage
I'm intrigued/repelled by John Currin. In a good way.

Kinda the same way I felt about some Dali stuff when I first saw it(not that they're the same).

I'm the guy from wonderland...& you will never understand...
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2003 :  15:34:20  Show Profile
i like cat art

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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 12/15/2003 :  15:41:59  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
Any of you guys come across Sam Taylor-Wood? She's a British artist who works mostly woth video. If you get the chance visit the Tate Modern in London to see her still life vanitas film, or her setting of Strauss' Elektra at the Tate Britain.
I also saw a bunch of William Blake illustrations the other day - those are awesome, although hardly 'modern' art.


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Atheist4Catholics
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USA
925 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2003 :  19:54:21  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by bedrock_barney

Who painted this then? It may surprise you.



(No cheating!!)



"I have been enslaved by the Cult of Ming / He is ever so merciless...unlike that nice Mr Black."



Wasn't that painted by a young Picasso?

I really dig Frank Stella



De Chirico,

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and yes, Don Van Vliet (a.k.a. Captain Beefheart)




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Atheist4Catholics
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USA
925 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2003 :  19:56:21  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
Damn it! I was right but I guessed it before I saw there were two pages to the post. Oh well...


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