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cvanepps
= Cult of Ray =

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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 08:44:01
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I just got back from the ENT doctor this morning and he told me that my eardrum is intact, which was good news. However, my middle ear is filled with "fluid" of some kind, which makes things sound as though I heard them while underwater. He gave me a Rx for some kind of steroid decongestant thing (Medrol, I believe) that should open the eustachian tubes to let the "fluid" out.
I asked if there was some way to keep the fluid and spread it on my morning toast, but sadly, there was no way. What I thought was the sensation of a ruptured eardrum was merely pressure disparity. Good Christ, then I can't imagine I could take the pain of a proper rupture. Yikes!
Work on the new CD shall therefore continue unabated.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
    
Canada
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 08:59:57
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Well, that's good news for you... the more I think about it, the more pathetic humanity seems to be to me - a little pressure disparity in a tooth or an ear, or weather outside maybe a 20 degree Celsius range, or this whole business about wisdom teeth (my first surgery ever which I just booked for next August... eeeee), or tonsils, or... It's a wonder we didn't just die off in the first winter. Pills for everything, solutions for nothing.
But good news, and happy to hear it.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
  
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 09:40:08
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Yes, congrats on the news, hope that treatment works for ya.
CoF, my first and only surgery so far was having ALL FOUR of my wisdom teeth removed at one time a year ago (scheduled for after Thanksgiving/Xmas - very important!). Please do not read anymore if you are squeamish or in the least bit scared of having the procedure done. If you want to hear the horrors so that you can be prepared, by all means, read on......;)
The orthodontist did not tell me that the local anaesthetic had a synthetic adrenaline plus ephedrine in it. My heart started to race faster than it ever had in my life, and my chest and head and arms got very cold. I totally freaked out, thought they had given me too much - I couldn't talk because of the crap in my mouth and all the shots, and he and the assistant were about 15 feet away with their backs turned to me. I started making noises like "MMMGhaaahhh!! Gahhhrrrreeeeggghhh---ahhh -- Ahhhgg!!! They finally turned around and saw me flailing my hands and rocking back and forth, terror in my eyes. It must have taken a lot of self-control to not bust out laughing at me. I had to explain to them with the vocabulary alluded to above what was happening to me, and they looked a little worried for a second and covered with, "Oh yeah, there is adrenaline and ephedrine in the local, that is fairly normal for you to feel that way." All i want to know is, why couldn't they have told me that before?
Also, the Ortho wasn't able to get one of the roots out, and kept trying and kept having to put more and more shots in there cause he was taking so long I started to feel pain when he pulled, and he kept losing his grip and looking more and more worried and sweat broke out on his forehead. Not something you want to see, big pliers and sharp metal tools in your mouth and this big worried sweaty face 4 inches from yours. I can assure you.
All I can say is, it will be a very surreal experience, especially when you hear the tooth and root ripping from your head.
Whatever you do, be fucking careful when you go home with that crap in your empty sockets - if that stuff falls out before your blood coagulates and your gums heal over, you will be in such goddamned pain. I was in pain for about 2 months afterwards, and the Dentist's office didn't believe me. My husband had to yell and argue with them on the phone to convince them that they should give me a prescription for the pain - they had me come in and looked in my mouth and said, "Oh my! you have dry sockets! Of course you're in pain!"
Fuckers.
Don't blow your nose. Don't use a straw. Don't swish liquid in your mouth....yadda yadda yadda - I followed all the instructions, it still came out.
good luck man!
Oh, and by the way, i'm just fine, now. Though I'm still pissed that when I asked them if they would give me my teeth when it was over they said yes, and when it was over they said they had already thrown them away. That really ticked me off. |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
   
Canada
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 09:52:45
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Its better to just get put right out. I had mine out both ways and you're right apl, noone needs to hear any of that, especially when they have to start sawing teeth in half, in that case noone needs to smell that. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
    
Canada
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 09:58:49
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Great, great. Of course I had to read. I too am getting all four done at once, and one tooth has to be cut three different directions since it's wrapped all nicely 'round a root. I'm going to an orthodontic surgeon instead of my regular dentist, so I think I get put to sleep or something. I need to be driven to/from though 'cause they're going to give me an IV, which, to give you an idea of how squeamish I am, scares the crap out of me. A tube into my veins in my soft underside of the wrist... where do I sign up?!
The other option was to do one at a time or two and go from there, but if I'm going to be in pain anyway, I guess I should just get it over with in one fell swoop.
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TheCroutonFuton
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USA
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 10:09:17
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Yeah, my brother had all 4 removed at once and got horribly sick afterwards.
The IV will be fine, though, it doesn't really hurt that much. Just close your eyes and breath.
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cvanepps
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 10:50:52
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Holy shit, I was just talking to our lovely admin girl about wisdom teeth extractions and how her daughter just had it done on Friday. I still have all my wisdom teeth at 35. I think that since I had 8 extractions (4 from the top, 4 from the bottom) as a child to make room for braces (for 5 fucking years) that I may be able to keep them forever. Here's hoping anyway.
Every wisdom teeth extraction story I've ever heard has been horrible. Dean, I hope it goes well for you. Spring for the good drugs and you won't care how many pieces your teeth need to be in.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
    
Canada
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 11:40:51
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Heh, well they'd better be good- it's costing enough to get done, though thankfully my work has some dental coverage. It can't be any easier getting 8 teeth extracted, can it? I guess they don't have to saw through your jaw bone, but...
So how's our track and your fluid doing? I didn't mean to sidetrack this... :)
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Johnny Yen
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USA
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 11:44:08
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My friend josie had to get her wisdom teeth removed because the roots had grown into her Nasal Cavity! UGH! I guess it was a big bloody mess when they yanked 'em out. UGH i say. |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
  
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 11:47:05
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Yes yes, how is your fluid doing cvanneps? I'm sorry I sidetracked this. Do you hear flapping sounds sometimes as well? |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
    
Canada
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 11:56:42
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BTW, apl, sidetracking again, but what's this about not blowing your nose, using a straw, etc?!
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
  
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 12:05:01
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oh. They stuffed/plugged some weird gauzey/gummy/flesh-like material into the empty sockets to keep them wet (to avoid dry-sockets, which is very painful and risky for infection, slowed healing, etc.). if you pressurize your mouth area, by doing things like using a straw or blowing your nose, they can fall out, and you have to go back in to have them [the plugs] replaced. You have to be careful when you eventually brush your teeth and eat. i'm sure that if they use the same stuff with you they will give you instructions as well. I'm just saying that they didn't exactly work for me, and the receptionaist/assistants treated me like I was a dumbass and as if I hadn't actually followed their instructions. We won't be going to them anymore. What a bunch of jerks. |
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *
 
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 12:14:01
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Weird.
I had all four of mine out when I was 16.
I was unconscious during the "surgery" and knocked-out with codiene for about a week.
No sickness. Plenty of pain.
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I didn't get any gauzey/gummy/flesh-like material stuffed in the empty sockets. I don't think I did, anyway.
I was given what was basically gauze to knash (gnash?) my teeth on. It absorbed the blood and, in my altered-state, was seriously entertaining.
The coppery blood taste got old after a little bit.
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I swallowed my sutures while playing basketball.
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I kept the teeth. They had been either cracked in half or into three pieces.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
   
Canada
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 12:16:15
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If you play it up enough, you might be able to get Tylenol 4s instead of 3s. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 13:02:45
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I actually hate taking drugs of any sort and even being put under/anesthized I'm not really 100% comfortable with, but at the same time, I'm neither insane nor masochistic. I can't imagine being out of it for a day much less a week... I heard it was generally a two-day recovery. Apl, I'm not going to be able to brush for a week either?!
Bring on the garlic!
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
  
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 13:27:40
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I think you can gently brush your teeth after a couple days, hard to remember - I am no expert, sounds like Obfuscate didn't have the same plug-thingies. I too remember the gauze you gnash your teeth into, and the coppery, ferric-tasting blood, mmmmmm - and the codeine stupor. yessssss.
I like codeine.
Much laughing and everything is hunky-dorey, until it wears off and your head feels like it's going to explode. You have to just lay your head down and stare out the window with tears streaming down your face quietly. Or that's what I did anyway. I wish I had been under during the ordeal, but then I wouldn't have that great story to tell, and all those exciting nightmares. |
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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 13:31:06
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Huh...after my sinus surgery I was on codeine for a week or two. I never got loopy though. Sleeping pills on the other hand...hahaha. I used to get hallucinations of these big bananas in chef hats cutting up little bananas and frying them in brown sugar and butter in a griddle. They were cannibal bananas. |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
  
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 13:39:27
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I love that so much. Thank you. What were those pills again?
P.S. CroutonFuton - By the way, I asked a gazillion days ago in that ol' topic how you were doin - so how are you doin now? |
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
 
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 13:44:21
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I think they were Ambien. They say to not do anything and just lay there with your eyes closed. Just watch tv and listen to music when you take it. Hallucinations galore, haha.
Me? Well...I'm okay, I guess. Having a REALLY bad herxheimer reaction right now. Although, that does mean I'm getting better, it still sucks for me. And just incase you didn't know:
Ja·risch-Herx·hei·mer reaction n : an increase in the symptoms of a spirochetal disease (as syphilis, Lyme disease, or relapsing fever) occurring in some persons when treatment with spirocheticidal drugs is started - called also Herxheimer reaction
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blackpurse
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 14:01:03
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First cvanepps, glad to hear that there's no permanent damage. I'm terrified of losing my hearing, since music means so much to me...
I had my four wisdom teeth out in my late 20;s. My dentist refused to to it all at once, he said they were all impacted and he didn't want to risk that big a shock to my system. I call my dentist "Painless Pete" (his first name is Peter, and its a nod to the dentist in M*A*S*H) and Painless Pete is apt for him. He is extremely skilled at shooting me with locals, which he did. It was a weird experience -- I could hear him bashing away at my teeth, but couldn't feel a thing. It was a Friday both times, and each time he gave me a 'scrip for Percoset and his home phone number should I need more! I had this dear, but dumbass friend take care of me over the weekend. I was broke at the time (a time in my life when my bed was a matress on the floor and I was working for hte nonprofits) and I handed her my last $3 and told her to get me some kind of comfort food. So what does she get? Some stupid ass snack called (justifiably) "Krunchers". Jay-sus.
I was also conscious for both of my C-Sections. Now that's a weird feeling. "Try to move your feet" they say as the spinal is kicking in. Your brain said wiggle, your heart says wiggle, you could swear you're wigglinhg your feet but nothing is happening. Throughout most of the procedure I felt no pain,but I could tell they were rummaging around in there. "It feels like you're giving me an internal sweedish massage" I told them, and they said they usually get complaints about that, that they'd never heard it quite described that way before. Oh, and if you ever get a spinal for major surgery, believe them when they tell you "You might feel a bit nauseaous." (sp?) Now I can relate to all those rock and roll movies about the junkie's first hit of morphine/heroin, when they are yokking hopelessly into the toilet. I never felt so horrificly nausious in my life. This wasn't the dry heaves, I would have given my right arm for the relief that the dry heaves brings. You know the part when you're about to hurl, the part right before you finally say "I've got to put my finger down my throat", that part that usually lasts only three seconds before the relief of actually hurling, even if it's the dry heaves? Well, take that moment and stretch it out for the 90 seconds it takes for the counter-hurl medication to kick in. (For some reason, they can't give it to you in advance, they have to wait until you feel horribly nausious.) Then when that was over, I couldn't feel anything from the chest down, except that it felt like my breath was shallow (but they assured me that that my breath was normal, it just FELT shallow). Still, it's all much less risky than completely going under.
Only time I went completely under was surgery I had to have some fibroaids lasered off. "Your eyelids are going to feel heavy" I remember them saying, and I remember saying "I don't feel any--" and bam, next thing I know I'm freezing cold and peeing and in recovery and freaking out. I'll taking thaat awful nausea over that freakout any day.
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cvanepps
= Cult of Ray =

USA
442 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2003 : 14:21:07
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Wow, I love how much material this topic has garnered, sidetracking or no!!
Re: the song Eardrums & Airplanes, I've added a bridge section featuring lyrics about the orange vs. yellow debate. I've decided to make you all wait to see those. That tune won't appear on the next CD, rather, I'm making it just for FB.net. I don't want to assign a due date because that puts undue pressure to deliver on that day. If daddy were being paid, that would be another story (which relates to the Chuck D thread). Heh!
The fluid is flowing like...something that flows...like fluid. I only got back from the doctor this morning so I haven't even filled the Rx yet. I imagine it'll be a few weeks before my hearing comes back. On a related note, on the hearing test the audiologist gave me, I scored really well despite the impairment. High frequencies are completely gone, however, and replaced with constant ringing. Weeeeeee!!
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
    
Canada
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 14:41:24
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Heh, if I'm working on it, it better be pro-orange. :)
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