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Useyourname
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 Posted - 11/20/2003 : 21:04:32
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Ok so having enjoyed Show Me Your Tears, I was thinking about what the next album would be like. I'm curious what do you think the next album will be like and what do you hope the next album will be like.
Personally I would like frank to go back to multitracking for a little while and do a bunch of high energy rock songs like Pistolero. I'd love to have drew feldmen and santiago in on it too. I still feel chest pains when I listen to "I Switched You" and when I hear Jessie Moroney's sweet irish voice.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 11/20/2003 : 23:33:00
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maybe the time is right for a shift in his career
my bet is that the next album will be again with the catholics
and will be recorded live. But I think that the songs will be a little bit different, I see no reason to do a SMYT II. I doubt if it will be as good as SMYT I
 "I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do" |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 11/21/2003 : 02:16:10
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I think some of the rock would not be out of order here. He does it so well after all.
 "I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 03:16:06
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I just realized that Frank has enough rare/unreleased material in his pockets to release a new LP without having to record any new song...
The track listing should - more or less - look like this:
1. Sunny Sunny Mill Valley Groove Day 5'12
2. Humboldt County Massacre (SSMVGD version) 2'35
3. Sister Isabel (SSMVGD) 3'27
4. Le Cigare Volant (SSMVGD) 2'27
5. I Will Run After You (SSMVGD) 3'58
6. His Kingly Cave (SSMVGD) 3'09
7. Duke of Earl 2'41
8. Everyone Is Wrong (live - written by L. Workman) 3'17
9. Valley of Our Hope 4'41
10. Don't Clip Your Wings (live) 2'16
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I probably forgot 3 or 4 songs (The Shrimp Song? Fare Thee Well? Dirty Old Town?) or more, so feel free to add them. When the listing is complete, Jim, Dave or Dean will send it to Frank, as a friendly suggestion. Sure the King will appreciate. Remember he has just divorced and moved to Oregon - he has probably other things to do now than record a new album...
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 03:19:42
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I'd love to see Dirty Old Town on a FB album, that is such a good song.
BTW, what is there to do in Oregon?
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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In her mirror
- FB Fan -
Spain
20 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 04:33:31
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I'd like a mix between the country sound in SMYT and the "barocco" style of the first album. More instruments, more psychedelia in nice melodies with the pedal steel.
It's an idea...
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1718 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 05:18:06
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I would love a B-sides and rarities album one day... But I don't see it happen anytime soon.
As for the next proper album, I'll just trust the Man as usual. It worked fine so far.
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 06:07:56
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In Seattle a few months ago, Frank told me that Jay-Z is producing the next album, if that gives you any idea of what it might be like.
When FB does get around to putting together Oddballs II, boy I hope that "Sunday Sunny Mill Valley Groove Day" is part of it. One of my favorite Catholics recordings. I've no CD burner but I have the MP3 from way back. |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 06:15:25
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in the king holds court thread he said that he was thinking about an oddballs 2.i don't think that ssmvgd will be ever officially released.personally i would like a box with all the cd singles like the smashing pumpkins one
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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =
USA
725 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 06:50:40
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benwin
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Posted - 11/21/2003 : 07:25:53
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I hate to be cryptic and coy at the same time, but a source close to his kingship says the next album the Blackman records will be unlike any other album he has recorded. And, (s)he says too, that the next album he releases will be unlike any other album he has released, yet the next album he releases will not be the next album he records. |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 07:30:01
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Oh goody! a riddle!  |
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1615 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 09:26:48
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bquote:
Originally posted by benwin
I hate to be cryptic and coy at the same time, but a source close to his kingship says the next album the Blackman records will be unlike any other album he has recorded. And, (s)he says too, that the next album he releases will be unlike any other album he has released, yet the next album he releases will not be the next album he records.
FB is finally letting the great P Diddy mix his old music, and so the rumor of the bands name change must be true. I can't wait to hear a raptastic version of Big Red. Better known in these parts as the Hoo Hoo Song.
F. Bliddy and the Methodists
Thomas
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 09:39:50
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No matter how the Man is called, he will forever remain the sex symbol he has always been. I love you Bliddy !
"I met a man/ he was a good man" |
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 09:50:20
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By the way, as I see everybody (including me) liked Dirty Old Town, didn't you notice that SMYT sounds sometimes like a Pogues record, especially "When will hapiness find me again", which could be a very good Pogues song !!!
Blackus need not cover the Pogues, he can write good Pogues songs of his own...hope he won't destroy his liver by alcohol, I'd like my children to grow up and listen to FB....
"I met a man/ he was a good man" |
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
565 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2003 : 10:05:24
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| Just casting my vote for more ROCK and ROLL. However, I would probably prefer it he made something completely unique and spectacular.. but this is a very difficult task even for the man himself. |
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benwin
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 11/21/2003 : 11:06:13
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Jane is taller than Joan and Joan is shorter than Jean. Jean looks up to Jane and Jasmine looks down on Joan. Jasmine and Jane never see eye to eye. Who's the tallest?
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2003 : 05:08:08
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Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible
By the way, as I see everybody (including me) liked Dirty Old Town, didn't you notice that SMYT sounds sometimes like a Pogues record, especially "When will hapiness find me again", which could be a very good Pogues song !!!
Blackus need not cover the Pogues, he can write good Pogues songs of his own...hope he won't destroy his liver by alcohol, I'd like my children to grow up and listen to FB....
Yeah, When Will Happiness and Goodbye Lorraine sound very much like Pogues songs. I know what I'm saying - I'm a long-time fan of both FB and Shane McGowan.
Btw, I recently bought the complete collection of the Pogues b-sides (2 cds, 42 tracks!) and I must say the quality of these little-known songs is really amazing.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2003 : 07:02:10
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After a year spent in Sweden, I came back to France yesterday, and discovered that absolutely no magazine/newspaper has written about SMYT. Has it been released in France? And why didn't anybody talk about FB? I guess the journalists are very busy listening to the Strokes and the Raveonettes, but having a record of such a surprising quality as SMYT (for me, Frank's finest since TOTY) and not saying a single word about it...I am ashame of being French.
This message mainly concerns French FB fans and has nothing to do with the main topic, sorry.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2003 : 16:54:26
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Jane is taller than Joan and Joan is shorter than Jean. Jean looks up to Jane and Jasmine looks down on Joan. Jasmine and Jane never see eye to eye. Who's the tallest?
Um...Shaq?
-Nathan
And how does lemur's skin reflect the sea?
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2003 : 23:13:39
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My sources also indicate something unexpected as well..
I'm unfamiliar with Jay-Z..what's the story there? (Or is this a joke?)
I'm with Jimmy, if i had any influence, i'd lock FB in a multi-track studio for a week. =) |
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =
394 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2003 : 23:53:27
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quote:
Originally posted by benwin
I hate to be cryptic and coy at the same time, but a source close to his kingship says the next album the Blackman records will be unlike any other album he has recorded. And, (s)he says too, that the next album he releases will be unlike any other album he has released, yet the next album he releases will not be the next album he records.
so what's the next release? A best of? Or a remix album by aphex twin? Or a live album? I hope he is not gonna bring strings and horns to his next recordings. Back to multitracking. I say Frank Black with a beatbox and Reaktor, uh!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 00:17:18
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Stay on two track Frank, and include some strings and horns. More Van Dyke Parks please!
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 00:20:02
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Noisy
My sources also indicate something unexpected as well..
I'm unfamiliar with Jay-Z..what's the story there? (Or is this a joke?)
I'm with Jimmy, if i had any influence, i'd lock FB in a multi-track studio for a week. =)
in what sense unexpected?unexpected like moby doing the production or unexpected like a back to toty style?
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 06:29:24
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Dave, the Jay-Z thing is definitely a joke, and kudos to you for not knowing who that is. Seriously, you're better off.
As for the next album, my sources tell me that I should ask Dave and then slowly leak it out to you. :)
Myself, I'd say that he can stay on two track if he wants since SMYT proved that you can have at least 15 parts successfully and beautifully recorded at the same time. However, I think multitrack is a useful tool in developing the songs a bit further and given my love for solo Frank's stuff, I'd be more than happy to see him tinker with that again. But I won't hold my breath, 2-track seems to have become part of his image...
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1718 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 06:59:20
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Return of the theremin maybe?
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"C'est la vie" whatever that means, la-de-da... |
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cvanepps
= Cult of Ray =
USA
442 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 07:59:32
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Here's my wishlist for the new FB&Cs record:
1. Multitrack recorded
2. Distortion on most guitars
3. driving, semi-uptempo beats
4. counter-melody innovations (as in the tune "Los Angeles")
5. At least one acrostic
6. Lyrics featuring some obscure event (anyone want to bet against this one?)
7. Each track will receive the same loving care that TOTY's and Yellow's received
8. 20 tracks, minimum
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 08:01:02
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9. Produced by Eric Drew Feldman.
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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
871 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 08:05:11
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10. Hand delivered by Frank as a super promo special edition.
 "I have been enslaved by the Cult of Ming / He is ever so merciless...unlike that nice Mr Black." |
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cvanepps
= Cult of Ray =
USA
442 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 08:15:19
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
9. Produced by Eric Drew Feldman.
Yeah, I'm not so sure about that, COF. I wonder how much of a role Mr. Feldman has played in the band's transformation from a rock & roll band? I might give another producer a shot.
Anyone hear of Bill Laswell? These days, he does a lot of world music & jazz and whatnot but he produced the hell out of the 8th Public Image Limited record, the one called "Cassette" or "Album" or "Compact Disc" depending what format you had. He brought Johnny Rotten together with Steve Vai, Ginger Baker, and Ryuichi Sakamoto. Despite the mere 7 tracks, it remains one of my favorites because of Laswell.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 08:27:34
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You really think Eric is part of the transition to a more country feel?
I think that he can play the country part, but he seems to jive with what Frank's vision for the track is. When it was more synth, there was Eric. When it's country, there's Eric. But he can still pull out the rock organ for a song like Jaina Blues.
Probably, Eric producing wouldn't mean a return to the more synth stuff from the solo, but I suspect this is still where his tastes lie. I haven't heard much from his latest project (knife & fork) though, so I can't say for certain. But I know that the songs he produced are among my favourites. I think you & I've discussed this before, though, and you said that you prefer more along the Pistolero/Brown whereas I prefer the first two records. So we're probably going after different goals...
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 08:46:10
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11. The first edition should include a giant poster of Kim Deal in a leopard swimsuit with the caption "Sorry all for the Pixies hoax", and an ultra-limited bonus cd for the most faithful fans - I mean, for French fans.
Speaking of poster... do you know this one?
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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =
USA
408 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 08:54:58
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 13:30:53
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12. Joey Santiago as guest star. Oh, and I definitely support all this EDF-multitrack thing.
"I met a man/ he was a good man" |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 15:08:13
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13.must have John the revelator on it
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2003 : 15:45:03
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Originally posted by benwin
yet the next album he releases will not be the next album he records.
Might mean another b-sides collection?
I don't think Frank will be abandoning the live-to-2-track recording (though I guess anything's possible). He's talked about wanting to record with strings before. Maybe he's found an economical way to do it. |
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