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song oracle
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  05:25:34  Show Profile
Today's random song is Western Star.

What do you think of it?

lyrics

Sun she burns mean and big
I think I''ll go to Cafe Noir
Big screen turns me on
I''m gonna be a western star
How hard can it be?

I get my freon bingo
Inside your cool soft sarong
Rolling on the moquette
Inside a cul-de-sac kampong
How hard can it be?

How hard can it be?
When you''re a western star?
Shining and free
Don''t you know that a star burns best?
How hard can it be?
And I said now
How hard can it be?

She''s so sentimental
She''s got my pictures in her head
The tool-man is in her dreams
I was lifted when she said
How hard can it be?

How hard can it be?
When you''re a western star?
Shining and free
Don''t you know that a star burns best?
How hard can it be?
And I said now
How hard can it be?

Now he''s headed skyward
Standing up on piles of plywood
And all he thinks about is how he
Looks like Heroes-period Bowie
And his figure blocks the light
And he takes away the night
And he''s dancing to the new bolero

Yo soy un pistolero
I''m not shakin'' in my boots
I''m ruler of this moon, boy
So if you move I shoots
How hard can it be?

How hard can it be?
When you''re a western star?
Shining and free
Don''t you know that a star burns best?
How hard can it be?
And I said now
How hard can it be?

How hard can it be ?

Dancing to the new bolero


[EDIT - Fixed subject]

Edited by - El Barto on 11/17/2003 09:17:57

Jettison
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  05:26:28  Show Profile  Visit Jettison's Homepage
can someone fix the typo in the subject?

thanks.

-jet

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billgoodman
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  07:57:06  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
uhm I love the Yo soy-part

that will be enough for today

can't wait until tomorrow




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Jettison
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  08:13:57  Show Profile  Visit Jettison's Homepage
hard song to comprehend...

several malaysian references, some spanish dancing...

i love the line, 'i was lifted when she said'.

any malaysian fans on the board that could shed some light?

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Edited by - Jettison on 11/17/2003 08:39:25
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Jettison
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  08:23:24  Show Profile  Visit Jettison's Homepage
ps.
i have a live version from 19-feb-01 in madison wi.
can someone host it for download?
thanks.


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apl4eris
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  08:44:18  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
I think I will take a crack at it. I'm thinkin maybe Clint Eastwood? Mr. Old West Action...he started out doing Spaghetti Westerns (in Spain) before he hit it big in Hollywood.
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floop
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  09:50:49  Show Profile
this is a good idea (song of the day that is). clint eastwood eh?? hmm... i don't know. this one is puzzling. like, who's the tool-man? standing on ply-wood and shit?

is this about Tim Allen in Home Improvement?
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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  12:16:50  Show Profile
I think the second verse is unmistakably about... well, you know...
pussy


the freon is the intoxicating aroma
the moquette is the texture of course

Edited by - Little Black Francis on 11/17/2003 12:18:15
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floop
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  12:32:01  Show Profile
i think you're onto somthing LBF..

new word:

Moquette
(n.) A kind of carpet having a short velvety pile.




Edited by - floop on 11/17/2003 12:35:21
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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  12:36:23  Show Profile
well, it is cool before the rolling begins, so... plus the freon implies a element of coldness. So the rolling warms it up, it was cool, until the rolling

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ain't it funny how the "don't fuck with me!" nooch
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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  12:37:22  Show Profile
quote:
floop
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Posted - 11/17/2003 : 12:32:01
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i think you're onto somthing LBF..

new word:

Moquette
(n.) A kind of carpet having a short velvety pile.





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Edited by - floop on 11/17/2003 12:35:21




Of course, and the carpet/pussy analogy has been around, well, since carpet I imagine.

Edited by - Little Black Francis on 11/17/2003 12:38:56
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floop
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  12:43:43  Show Profile
i wonder if the term "carpet munching" has been around since the beginning of carpet...

life is full of questions..
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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  12:48:17  Show Profile
the cul de sac is the uterus
and the kampong is populated by an egg (smurfette) and sperms (papa smurf, brainy smurf etc.)


And without any explanation needed: "How hard can it be?"

Edited by - Little Black Francis on 11/17/2003 12:50:25
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BrendanT
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  12:48:18  Show Profile
Maybe it has something to do with this?

http://www.western-star.co.uk/home.htm

Maybe a rejection?

Strummer-man
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It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?!
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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  12:52:31  Show Profile
I get my lucky aromas that turn me on
Inside your virginal soft sarong
Rolling on the carpet muncher
Inside a uterus of smurfs
How hard can it be?


Roughly translated

Edited by - Little Black Francis on 11/17/2003 13:16:13
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floop
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  13:20:20  Show Profile
nice.

uterus of smurfs..

thanks for the chuckle
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Owen
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  13:56:13  Show Profile
Bingo : Intercourse || Uno : Masturbation

I always thought the "Yo soy" line was a play on the popular Beck song.
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sanchopanza
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  18:41:15  Show Profile
"Yo soy un pistolero" means "I am a gunfighter/gunslinger/all-around-bad-mutha-trucka.

The tool man could be a reference to the handyman that mends broken hearts, I dunno...

By the way, this is kinda fun. I like trying to pick-up on Frank's often obscure references. I'm fairly certain that the majority of them originate, one-way or another, from Gargamel's pants.

Me voy, me voy, me voy...
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ProverbialCereal
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  20:36:45  Show Profile
I wonder if Pistolero has alot of sexual references on it. I mean, in I Love Your Brain, Frank wants to have sex with a brain (maybe). We should do another song off that album next.



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Franco_Negro
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  20:52:28  Show Profile  Visit Franco_Negro's Homepage  Click to see Franco_Negro's MSN Messenger address
Pistolero is a gun fighter...thus the title Western Star...clear enough! Now lets dance to the new bolero!

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2 spaces
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Posted - 11/18/2003 :  02:09:48  Show Profile
Yep, the (moquette) sex verse does explain the musical question "How hard can it be?" but I have a different take on the song in general.

At first, for minimal reasons, I thought of Beck. Just the "yo soy" part, and also "dancing to the new bolero" reminded me of the New Pollution. Then on a fateful night with my mind freshly blown from a spectacular solo performance by Frank I took a quick break in a small alcove of the club on my way to the exit. There was a little platform there with a screen, and audience members took turns standing on it and being 'stars' for as long as the songs they sung along to lasted. I could have kicked myself for leaving as early as I did cause the next day I read in this very forum that Frank ended up hanging out right there for hours after his show! My only consolation was that as I was leaving this space I had a Eureka moment... that Western Star was about Karaoke!
well... parts of it at least. maybe.

Anyway I love that song. Always thought those were great lyrics... even though I couldn't make out a bunch of them...
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Dallas
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Posted - 11/18/2003 :  08:40:32  Show Profile
The Karaoke theory has some merits. Could be. I would love to have the meaning of this song tied down...
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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 11/18/2003 :  21:15:39  Show Profile
I'd like to hear Tim Allen cover this song.
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dogjones
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Posted - 11/20/2003 :  04:09:09  Show Profile
1- cafe noir is a trendy hotel bar in LA frequented by both stars and star wannabes
2- frank black allegedy wrote this at his home in his wife's office while they were still married
3- frank black's ex wife dabbled in the whole modeling/acting thing as far as i can tell, im more concerned with the music than who's swapping body fluids with him

i dont really see any sex in it, but im not really sure what its about anyway...only what i think its about. there's still holes, like the whole plywood/bowie/ruler of moon stuff, no idea.

its also worth mentioning for arguement's sake cafe noir is also a trendy sojo area morrocan/french casual resturant popular with a similar, yet more underground croud.

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Jason
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Posted - 11/20/2003 :  16:45:06  Show Profile
It's about thinking how cool it would be to be a western movie star.

Seems like a pretty straightforward song to me.

The "piles of plywood" verse is about the actor thinking about how cool he looks ("piles of plywood" = a movie set?). "Yo soy un pistolero... I'm ruler of this moon" are either his lines or his 'in-character' thoughts.
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fumanbru
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Posted - 11/20/2003 :  18:52:41  Show Profile
good idea song oracle.

love the second verse. moquette and cul-de-sac kampong are very cool words. i'm thinking i may try to incorporate moquette into my daily vocabulary. how about "moquette munching" or "cruising for moquette."

not real sure about the meaning of the song. maybe frank's telling us that he wants to be a kick ass country rock star.


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NimrodsSon
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Posted - 11/20/2003 :  19:36:43  Show Profile
The karaoke theory sounds pretty good to me


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cigarinthesky
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Posted - 11/21/2003 :  10:43:49  Show Profile
I don't think this is a song about sex, that's for sure. I agree with Jason, it's a pretty straightforward song about how cool it would be to be a big western star, with lots of subtexts underneath. The song first makes one think of Eastwood but then once he starts throwing in L.A. and Bowie references, it's more one man's daydream. the man doesnt' have to be FB himself, it could just be a character. Deep down a lot of people want to be famous movie stars, rock stars, etc. This could just be a clever play on that, as he himself is somewhat of a famous rock guy. Then again ... only one guy out there really knows ... and hey, we know you read these buddy!!! =)
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