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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 11/16/2003 :  11:15:03  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
I finally upgraded to the CD version of "Come on Pilgrim" and while reading the liner notes, I realized that I used to live across the hall from where it was recorded. Fort Apache South was a sister studio to the main Fort Apache and it's actually in Dorchester, but close to Roxbury. This studio is in the building I was evacuated from because the landlord was storing propane and chemicals indoors (as well as not having a residential zoning). The studio is now called "Magpie Sound" and aside from it's history and a decent sounding room, it's become a pretty sucky studio. The owner's a nice guy, but he has crap for gear. Anyhow, I thought you might like to look at some pictures of the room. http://magpiesound.com/studio.htm He changed the paint and some of the sound proofing, but everything else is supposedly as it was.



I love living in Boston and being a Pixies fan. I'm recording at Q Division next week (where Surfer Rosa was recorded) and one of my teachers at Berklee used to own Downtown Recorders where Doolittle was made (it no longer exists).


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magpiesound
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4 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2004 :  14:37:20  Show Profile
Sucky studio?

Maybe you should come back...If I remember correctly, your sullen self came to see the place like a year and a half ago ...just after I opened the joint... a lot has changed and I have dozens of very happy clients....wait...maybe you shouldn't come back...no definitely not.

Crap gear?

Maybe because you don't see brands like Studer, Cranesong, Empirical Labs and Drawmer at the local Banjo Center(r) you may think they are crap but they ain't...

At least be an accurate prick...prick.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2004 :  14:59:46  Show Profile
Now what were the chances of that happening???

Actually it looks as though someone has grassed on you Athiest 'cos Magpiesound has never posted before, which seems too much of a coincidence to me. Seems he registered just to put you to rights. Now all you need to find out is who grassed you up. Check people's profiles to see where they are from.
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2004 :  15:57:48  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

Now what were the chances of that happening???

Actually it looks as though someone has grassed on you Athiest 'cos Magpiesound has never posted before, which seems too much of a coincidence to me. Seems he registered just to put you to rights. Now all you need to find out is who grassed you up. Check people's profiles to see where they are from.



it's quite an old post too (the original), so he'd have to have done a search for it or been sent a link...

~~~
I'm flat out, you're so beautiful to look at when you cry. Freeze, don't move, you've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequal to your life. Shady Lane, everybody wants one, Shady Lane, everybody needs one.
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magpiesound
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4 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2004 :  16:46:07  Show Profile
I was sent a link by someone searching on my studio...nice.

My apologies for being bitchy on your board. However, I hope you all understand my annoyance. I have put every bit energy I have into making a really killer studio (regardless of it's history) for more than a year and it is really taking off... we are booked solid and doing damn fine work... nothing but happy clients...

Then I get this link... atheist4cathlolics is a bitter jerk.

I feel better for defending my place... nothing more from me on this..

Magpie Sound - Great Gear...not at all sucky


quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2

quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

Now what were the chances of that happening???

Actually it looks as though someone has grassed on you Athiest 'cos Magpiesound has never posted before, which seems too much of a coincidence to me. Seems he registered just to put you to rights. Now all you need to find out is who grassed you up. Check people's profiles to see where they are from.



it's quite an old post too (the original), so he'd have to have done a search for it or been sent a link...

~~~
I'm flat out, you're so beautiful to look at when you cry. Freeze, don't move, you've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequal to your life. Shady Lane, everybody wants one, Shady Lane, everybody needs one.

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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2004 :  17:25:56  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
hey i don't care about the stuff you have but i wish you all the best anyway.the place has a positive vibe that's for sure...hope you make many "come on pilgrims".


join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2004 :  18:23:15  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by magpiesound

I was sent a link by someone searching on my studio...nice.

My apologies for being bitchy on your board. However, I hope you all understand my annoyance. I have put every bit energy I have into making a really killer studio (regardless of it's history) for more than a year and it is really taking off... we are booked solid and doing damn fine work... nothing but happy clients...

Then I get this link... atheist4cathlolics is a bitter jerk.

I feel better for defending my place... nothing more from me on this..

Magpie Sound - Great Gear...not at all sucky




lol! fair enough! if i were local i'd be more than willing to pop over and try the place out myself, unfortunately i can't... ;) best of luck and stuff... out of interest, are you a pixies fan?

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I'm flat out, you're so beautiful to look at when you cry. Freeze, don't move, you've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequal to your life. Shady Lane, everybody wants one, Shady Lane, everybody needs one.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2004 :  18:31:31  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
That was weird.


"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open."
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Scarla O
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
947 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2004 :  01:41:45  Show Profile  Visit Scarla O's Homepage

Trippy.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2004 :  04:45:49  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
So how many insiders visited fb.net? I guess this website is really good,
just a quick list from the top of my head:

2 Frank Blacks (frnk blck and one before, I forgot to name)
One Girlfriend
Some recording enigineeer
Echopark who sang on manitoba
Billgoodman (no kidding)
Come on Pilgrim studio owner
Couple of record company guys and girls

great!




"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do"
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2004 :  06:57:27  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
You forgot J Mascis.



Join the Cult of Little Black Francis / Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2004 :  07:12:57  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
I didn't. But if I had put him on the list, we would have to include Lou Barlow too...




"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do"
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2004 :  10:21:34  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

So how many insiders visited fb.net? I guess this website is really good,
just a quick list from the top of my head:

2 Frank Blacks (frnk blck and one before, I forgot to name)
One Girlfriend
Some recording enigineeer
Echopark who sang on manitoba
Billgoodman (no kidding)
Come on Pilgrim studio owner
Couple of record company guys and girls

great!




"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do"



Billgoodman??? Never heard of him!!!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2004 :  10:23:55  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by magpiesound

I was sent a link by someone searching on my studio...nice.

My apologies for being bitchy on your board. However, I hope you all understand my annoyance. I have put every bit energy I have into making a really killer studio (regardless of it's history) for more than a year and it is really taking off... we are booked solid and doing damn fine work... nothing but happy clients...

Then I get this link... atheist4cathlolics is a bitter jerk.

I feel better for defending my place... nothing more from me on this..

Magpie Sound - Great Gear...not at all sucky


quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2

quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

Now what were the chances of that happening???

Actually it looks as though someone has grassed on you Athiest 'cos Magpiesound has never posted before, which seems too much of a coincidence to me. Seems he registered just to put you to rights. Now all you need to find out is who grassed you up. Check people's profiles to see where they are from.



it's quite an old post too (the original), so he'd have to have done a search for it or been sent a link...

~~~
I'm flat out, you're so beautiful to look at when you cry. Freeze, don't move, you've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequal to your life. Shady Lane, everybody wants one, Shady Lane, everybody needs one.





Be as bitchy as you like my friend, it's a free world (well this site is anyway). Good luck with the studio. It will be interesting to see how Atheist replies though.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2004 :  14:17:58  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

So how many insiders visited fb.net? I guess this website is really good,
just a quick list from the top of my head:

2 Frank Blacks (frnk blck and one before, I forgot to name)
One Girlfriend
Some recording enigineeer
Echopark who sang on manitoba
Billgoodman (no kidding)
Come on Pilgrim studio owner
Couple of record company guys and girls

great!




"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do"



Billgoodman??? Never heard of him!!!




BF said:
The Happening, likewise, has nothing to do with Diana Ross. 'That's based on this guy Billy Goodman, who had a radio talk show out of Las Vegas, The Billy Goodman Happening, dedicated to UFO stuff people calling in to tell of how their husband got murdered by an alien. The song The Happening tells of how the aliens land in Vegas: it's always been my wish that if they do land, it'll be Billy and his audience that get the credit in the greeting !' " (Q article quoting Black Francis)




"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do"
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guy_nolan
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
417 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2004 :  15:59:57  Show Profile  Click to see guy_nolan's MSN Messenger address
quote:

I love living in Boston and being a Pixies fan. I'm recording at Q Division next week (where Surfer Rosa was recorded) and one of my teachers at Berklee used to own Downtown Recorders where Doolittle was made (it no longer exists).



Wasn't Doolittle made in the UK? I know it was produced by Gil Norton who lives in Liverpool. Are you talking about where the cd was recorded or where it was mastered?

For ten thousand years he slept, his mind feeding on the nightmares of the weak. Now he has awakened. As the night turned crimson, the fire-blade shattered and his power died. Then, the slaughter began...
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2004 :  17:34:31  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
You forgot harris! Mr. Scott Boutier himself. There's a theory that Ken Goes was also here. Sarah from SpinART, jo from Beggars Group (somehow affiliated with 4AD), sean from Sonic Unyon...other Catholics (Little Davey P) are rumored to have read but never posted.


"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open."
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Kozaru
- FB Fan -

USA
38 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2004 :  20:24:46  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

No
Actually it looks as though someone has grassed on you Athiest 'cos Magpiesound has never posted before, which seems too much of a coincidence to me.


Grassed on you? I really need to learn English.

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2004 :  06:31:58  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics


I love living in Boston and being a Pixies fan. I'm recording at Q Division next week (where Surfer Rosa was recorded) and one of my teachers at Berklee used to own Downtown Recorders where Doolittle was made (it no longer exists).


"Join the Cult of Clootie / and you'll get more booty!" www.mp3.com/clootie



Mmm, I wanna record in the studio where BLD,DW and SMYT were made




"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do"
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2004 :  10:42:10  Show Profile
Yeah and I wanna record where DFHE, EJ, WEJRJRR, EJKSJDJFRHRFDCJCV, ZZZZZ and T were made!!!
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2004 :  15:34:21  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by magpiesound

I was sent a link by someone searching on my studio...nice.

My apologies for being bitchy on your board. However, I hope you all understand my annoyance. I have put every bit energy I have into making a really killer studio (regardless of it's history) for more than a year and it is really taking off... we are booked solid and doing damn fine work... nothing but happy clients...

Then I get this link... atheist4cathlolics is a bitter jerk.

I feel better for defending my place... nothing more from me on this..

Magpie Sound - Great Gear...not at all sucky



Julian, don't be so fucking defensive. Obviously things aren't going THAT great or you wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself on a Frank Black forum. I think I'm the only one here who lives near Boston and is in the market for a studio like yours; so you're preaching to the deaf.

Secondly, why am I a prick? Because I gave my honest opinion of your studio or because I offered my opinion without being asked? Regardless of what names might be on your gear, I heard tracks that you recorded there and was unimpressed. That's my opinion and the opinion of Will, the other engineer who was with me when I visited your studio. Shit, I lived across the fucking hall from you and was at the time looking for a studio to record overdubs in and I didn't opt to use your studio. Why? Because you were asking way too much per hour for what your studio was worth. Instead I drove an hour away to Acton to work in a studio with a better room and better gear and at a third of the price.

Perhaps I'm unfairly judging your small studio against the big boys in town like Q Division and I apologize if I've lost any business for you because someone saw my "review". I obviously never expected my post to show up in a yahoo search. The classy thing to do would've been to simply argue your case, but so far you've been unsuccessful in changing my opinion about your studio. Now when someone searches for your studio and follows the link to this post they're not only going to read my bad review of your studio, but they're also going to read your pathetic, childish retorts where you call me a "prick" and a "bitter jerk" (that one's really funny) instead of listing specific reasons as to why your studio doesn't suck.


"Join the Cult of Frank / or The Clops gets it!"

Edited by - Atheist4Catholics on 01/21/2004 16:14:42
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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2004 :  16:54:03  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics

quote:
Originally posted by magpiesound

I was sent a link by someone searching on my studio...nice.

My apologies for being bitchy on your board. However, I hope you all understand my annoyance. I have put every bit energy I have into making a really killer studio (regardless of it's history) for more than a year and it is really taking off... we are booked solid and doing damn fine work... nothing but happy clients...

Then I get this link... atheist4cathlolics is a bitter jerk.

I feel better for defending my place... nothing more from me on this..

Magpie Sound - Great Gear...not at all sucky



Julian, don't be so fucking defensive. Obviously things aren't going THAT great or you wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself on a Frank Black forum. I think I'm the only one here who lives near Boston and is in the market for a studio like yours; so you're preaching to the deaf.

Secondly, why am I a prick? Because I gave my honest opinion of your studio or because I offered my opinion without being asked? Regardless of what names might be on your gear, I heard tracks that you recorded there and was unimpressed. That's my opinion and the opinion of Will, the other engineer who was with me when I visited your studio. Shit, I lived across the fucking hall from you and was at the time looking for a studio to record overdubs in and I didn't opt to use your studio. Why? Because you were asking way too much per hour for what your studio was worth. Instead I drove an hour away to Acton to work in a studio with a better room and better gear and at a third of the price.

Perhaps I'm unfairly judging your small studio against the big boys in town like Q Division and I apologize if I've lost any business for you because someone saw my "review". I obviously never expected my post to show up in a yahoo search. The classy thing to do would've been to simply argue your case, but so far you've been unsuccessful in changing my opinion about your studio. Now when someone searches for your studio and follows the link to this post they're not only going to read my bad review of your studio, but they're also going to read your pathetic, childish retorts where you call me a "prick" and a "bitter jerk" (that one's really funny) instead of listing specific reasons as to why your studio doesn't suck.


"Join the Cult of Frank / or The Clops gets it!"



Atheist4Catholics - magpiesound : 1 - 0
though i'll never visit the places mentioned here everyone has the right to express his\her opinion without being called a "prick"...


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Edited by - mun chien andalusia on 01/21/2004 16:55:16
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guy_nolan
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
417 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2004 :  04:23:39  Show Profile  Click to see guy_nolan's MSN Messenger address
If this was the studio where 'Come On Pilgrim' was recorded, I'd record there for the vibe, not the equipment.

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gavredmaxx
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
127 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2004 :  05:06:21  Show Profile  Visit gavredmaxx's Homepage
I think this one has to be settled by a good old fashioned duel.

Maybe we can get them to stage it before a Pixies show?


Gav

"If you don't like it - play something else"
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magpiesound
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4 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2004 :  07:43:16  Show Profile
Defensive? Yes, definitely.

You slammed my studio in a public forum. You did so in an uninformed, thoughtless manner.
Yes you came over to my place a year and a half ago after I had just moved in. If I were to base my opinion of my place on that tiny sliver in time, I would agree with your assessment but, with tact that you obviously don’t posses, I would never used words like “sucky” and “crap”. If you could have mustered and organized your thoughts beyond the chaotic joy you felt in having lived so close to a room where an album you love was recorded (Oooooooo) you might have noticed (as you were stealing my pictures) that my partner and I have taken a simple room and made it into, simply, a great studio. Through countless hours of sleep-deprived, sweat-soaked, bleeding knuckle, coffee fueled work we have made something that sounds great, is cozy and very popular place to record.

So yes, defending my place was my prime motivation for posting here. There is no bad press on Magpie (save this post…thank you very much) because my partners and I have always put in every bit of work we can to make sure everything we do is absolutely the very best it can be.

I am curious what you have heard of our work that you were so unimpressed by…. I noticed no details were forthcoming. You know, there is stuff recorded at Abbey Road that I am unimpressed by.

Enough of this….to any of the Frank Black faithful being guiltily entertained by this little spat I ask you to go to my site and read the testimonials section… they are over the top but they are what actual clients think about our place …not the thoughtless, ignorant dis of a maybe-someday-audio engineer with a big clumsy mouth.

By the way… and aside…..finding this site has been fun (minus the idiot sparring) you are a great group and a riot.

Best,

Magpiesound – Suffering Bliss in the Cult of Alsihad


quote:
Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics

quote:
Originally posted by magpiesound

I was sent a link by someone searching on my studio...nice.

My apologies for being bitchy on your board. However, I hope you all understand my annoyance. I have put every bit energy I have into making a really killer studio (regardless of it's history) for more than a year and it is really taking off... we are booked solid and doing damn fine work... nothing but happy clients...

Then I get this link... atheist4cathlolics is a bitter jerk.

I feel better for defending my place... nothing more from me on this..

Magpie Sound - Great Gear...not at all sucky



Julian, don't be so fucking defensive. Obviously things aren't going THAT great or you wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself on a Frank Black forum. I think I'm the only one here who lives near Boston and is in the market for a studio like yours; so you're preaching to the deaf.

Secondly, why am I a prick? Because I gave my honest opinion of your studio or because I offered my opinion without being asked? Regardless of what names might be on your gear, I heard tracks that you recorded there and was unimpressed. That's my opinion and the opinion of Will, the other engineer who was with me when I visited your studio. Shit, I lived across the fucking hall from you and was at the time looking for a studio to record overdubs in and I didn't opt to use your studio. Why? Because you were asking way too much per hour for what your studio was worth. Instead I drove an hour away to Acton to work in a studio with a better room and better gear and at a third of the price.

Perhaps I'm unfairly judging your small studio against the big boys in town like Q Division and I apologize if I've lost any business for you because someone saw my "review". I obviously never expected my post to show up in a yahoo search. The classy thing to do would've been to simply argue your case, but so far you've been unsuccessful in changing my opinion about your studio. Now when someone searches for your studio and follows the link to this post they're not only going to read my bad review of your studio, but they're also going to read your pathetic, childish retorts where you call me a "prick" and a "bitter jerk" (that one's really funny) instead of listing specific reasons as to why your studio doesn't suck.


"Join the Cult of Frank / or The Clops gets it!"

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Owen
- FB Fan -

USA
165 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2004 :  07:55:11  Show Profile
Sir, I demand satisfaction!
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2004 :  09:54:44  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by magpiesound

Defensive? Yes, definitely.

You slammed my studio in a public forum. You did so in an uninformed, thoughtless manner.


Thoughtless, perhaps. If I were addressing an audience that I thought in any way would be in the market for your studio I would have chosen to be more diplomatic. Uninformed? Nope. Are you still running a PC using Sonar through an Alesis console? That seems like a pretty unprofessional set-up to me. I don't know of any pro studios who don't at least offer a Macintosh with Logic or Pro Tools. I applaud your new purchases, particularly the 30K's, and the Distressors. You had half the gear and only a third of the mics when I visited before. If you had had those back then I would've said "okay gear" instead of "crap". So why are you still name calling instead of pointing out these improvements to me and the rest of the forum?

quote:

Yes you came over to my place a year and a half ago after I had just moved in. If I were to base my opinion of my place on that tiny sliver in time, I would agree with your assessment but, with tact that you obviously don’t posses, I would never used words like “sucky” and “crap”.



So in other words, you agree with my initial assessment of your studio, you just wish I had voiced my opinion in another way. I agree with that as I said earlier, but I think everyone here would agree that you have no right to criticize my tact based on your totally tact-less posts thus far. At the very least I have only criticized your studio and your posts and have not taken cheap shots at you personally. In fact, I even said you were a nice guy in my original post. You call me uninformed and yet you instantly assume that I am "bitter" and suggest that I don't know what I'm talking about without knowing anything about me.

quote:

If you could have mustered and organized your thoughts beyond the chaotic joy you felt in having lived so close to a room where an album you love was recorded (Oooooooo) you might have noticed (as you were stealing my pictures) that my partner and I have taken a simple room and made it into, simply, a great studio.



Well, seeing how I posted this nearly a year and a half after moving I wouldn't say it was with "chaotic joy" that I wrote it. And I'm not stealing your picture, the picture in this post is merely HTML that is referencing the picture on your site. I just thought that the forum would be interested in seeing the room. Your studio has gotten a lot of publicity out of this. I even posted a link to your site! Anyone with a shard of intelligence who visited your site would be able to form their own opinion about your gear and the quality of your studio based on what they saw there.

quote:

Through countless hours of sleep-deprived, sweat-soaked, bleeding knuckle, coffee fueled work we have made something that sounds great, is cozy and very popular place to record. So yes, defending my place was my prime motivation for posting here. There is no bad press on Magpie (save this post…thank you very much) because my partners and I have always put in every bit of work we can to make sure everything we do is absolutely the very best it can be.



I don't mean to dismiss all the hard work you've done. I know what it's like because I've done it too. I struggled for years in near poverty before I had built a successful roster of clients and could make a good living as an audio engineer. That said, I am always open and interested in people's criticism of my work. How am I supposed to get better if I only get compliments? So why are you spending all your energy insulting me instead of trying to find out why I (a potential client) feel the way I do and what you could be doing (or what you may have already done) to change my opinion. If someone criticizes my work I take them seriously and try to find ways to improve.

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I am curious what you have heard of our work that you were so unimpressed by…. I noticed no details were forthcoming. You know, there is stuff recorded at Abbey Road that I am unimpressed by.



And there it is... Abbey Road has all the gear you could ever want, and yet bad work comes out of there sometimes. What does that tell you? That the gear is secondary to the people running the gear. So why not make that point and tell us where we can hear some stuff you've recorded? The drum tracks you played for Will and I sounded like they were recorded with low quality microphones, especially the overheads. Now that your mic collection has expanded and includes a pair of Earthworks 30K's which make great overheads, I'm sure the tracks are much better.

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Enough of this….to any of the Frank Black faithful being guiltily entertained by this little spat I ask you to go to my site and read the testimonials section… they are over the top but they are what actual clients think about our place …not the thoughtless, ignorant dis of a maybe-someday-audio engineer with a big clumsy mouth.



Well, you started this paragraph out with a modicum of business savvy, but then returned to your "uninformed" personal attacks on me. I feel like the gloves are off after that last sentence so I'm going to get more personal. You charge $35 an hour for your studio, right? Well I make $50 - $70 an hour as an audio engineer and I get to pick and choose the projects I want to work on. I work primarily out of my apartment and am usually wearing my pajamas. I can afford to only work about 10 hours a week which frees me up to write and perform my own music. Perhaps you have a different qualification of what it takes to be a legitimate audio engineer, but for me, I'm as happy as a mother-fucking clam being where I am right now.

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By the way… and aside…..finding this site has been fun (minus the idiot sparring) you are a great group and a riot.

Best,

Magpiesound – Suffering Bliss in the Cult of Alsihad




You're right (aside from calling me an idiot). This site is great. So why insult the intelligence of the people on this forum by continuing to call me names and not engaging in an intelligent dialog with me?


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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 01/22/2004 :  10:12:43  Show Profile
Do you two think you could continue this argument on email now please!!! Or maybe even face to face. Actually don't do that 'cos there may be violence.

Before you do however, Apheist, why are clams so happy???

I just wanna get along! I just wanna get along!


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Posted - 01/22/2004 :  10:22:53  Show Profile
i like your style Atheist..
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Posted - 01/22/2004 :  11:49:13  Show Profile
Jeesh...man, *read* our gear list...the gear you mentioned has looong since been replaced. So, yes, "uniformed" is accurate.

You started this ridiculousness by insulting my studio without bothering to inform yourself as to what we do and what we offer. Kindly do so.

happy day

so are the pixies getting back together or not ;)







I am happy for all your success as an engineer, really.

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I finally upgraded to the CD version of "Come on Pilgrim" and while reading the liner notes, I realized that I used to live across the hall from where it was recorded. Fort Apache South was a sister studio to the main Fort Apache and it's actually in Dorchester, but close to Roxbury. This studio is in the building I was evacuated from because the landlord was storing propane and chemicals indoors (as well as not having a residential zoning). The studio is now called "Magpie Sound" and aside from it's history and a decent sounding room, it's become a pretty sucky studio. The owner's a nice guy, but he has crap for gear. Anyhow, I thought you might like to look at some pictures of the room. http://magpiesound.com/studio.htm He changed the paint and some of the sound proofing, but everything else is supposedly as it was.



I love living in Boston and being a Pixies fan. I'm recording at Q Division next week (where Surfer Rosa was recorded) and one of my teachers at Berklee used to own Downtown Recorders where Doolittle was made (it no longer exists).


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Atheist4Catholics
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Posted - 01/23/2004 :  13:07:16  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
In case the forum was wondering (though you're probably bored of this by now), we've called a private truce. All I can say is that I've learned a valuable lesson about the internet...


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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 01/23/2004 :  13:26:34  Show Profile
I'm filling up here!!!
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Atheist4Catholics
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Posted - 01/24/2004 :  07:23:38  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

I'm filling up here!!!



Well, maybe you and I can get into a fight. What are some things you really like and I'll tell you they suck.


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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 01/24/2004 :  07:36:57  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
I saw A4C's post up above, and I thought (in a Simpsons' Comic Book Guy voice), "Longest post ever!"


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Posted - 01/24/2004 :  08:49:34  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
You just haven't been around long enough to see some of my rants... :)


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Atheist4Catholics
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Posted - 01/25/2004 :  08:27:25  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
You know what they say about guys who have long posts....


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