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Danishboy
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Denmark
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 Posted - 11/14/2003 : 09:09:37
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I call a vote on people who call Football 4 soccer.
I say dont call it soccer motherfucker.
You play a ball with your feet ergo football!!
Man of steel |
Edited by - Danishboy on 12/09/2003 07:17:14 |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2003 : 09:17:40
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| That's fine, as long as your country doesn't have another sport that's 1000 times more popular called "football". |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2003 : 09:54:03
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Go Danish boy, plus thankyou for the pastries.
Football is football. Obviously. You should all call American Football just that, because its not that.
Its like going to someone's house and asking to use the bathroom. Why, do you want a bath?
 "I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 11/14/2003 : 10:04:15
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Well, you park on the driveway and drive on the parkway around here too.
 "I partied with the Cult of Frank / Bob ate all the dip" |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2003 : 13:10:36
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2003 : 13:11:24
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soccer or football call it what you will...
Thrylara Omadara eaeaeaeaeaeeeeeee
 join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2003 : 17:11:16
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What club is that exactly?
Any I'm sure they'd be no match for the Saints!
After all, we have England's finest striker, Finland's national goalkeeper, and a Frenchman in gloves!
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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Danishboy
- FB Fan -
Denmark
175 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2003 : 17:47:42
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Originally posted by BLT
That's fine, as long as your country doesn't have another sport that's 1000 times more popular called "football".
Well i dont know what kind of "football" you mean. If think you that american sport like rugby, only you use protection.
If you look at a rugby player, heīs buttugly no teeth and sometimes bleeding from a headwound. Still respect to the rugbyplayers, but american football? come on be real, they use helmets and paddings.
No fun at all.
Maybe you should called it rugby for crybabies.
Man of steel |
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Danishboy
- FB Fan -
Denmark
175 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2003 : 09:18:55
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Today U21 national team played against Italy. Match ended 1-1, next wensday plays Denmark in Italy.
The 1st National team plays friendly against England tomorrow, last time England beat Denmark, in the World cup 3-1.
Also Norway, Holland, Spain, Tyrkey, Letland, Wales, Scotland, Kroatien, Slovien, today plays the playoff matches.
Need i say that Denmark allready qualified.
Man of steel |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2003 : 16:21:27
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I bet England qualified before Denmark.
BTW, for you neutral parties, Scotland beat Holland 1-0 (result!) and Wales got a good 0-0 draw away to Russia. This means that Scotland only need a draw in the second leg, and Wales need a home win.
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =
394 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2003 : 18:16:07
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quote:
Originally posted by BLT
That's fine, as long as your country doesn't have another sport that's 1000 times more popular called "football".
wuzzball. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2003 : 07:59:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Danishboy
quote:
Originally posted by BLT
That's fine, as long as your country doesn't have another sport that's 1000 times more popular called "football".
come on be real, they use helmets and paddings.
No fun at all.
Maybe you should called it rugby for crybabies.
I'm only stating a fact. I'm not passing judgment whether it's good or bad, but in this country (and Canada, too) we have a game called "football" which is VASTLY more popular than soccer. 90% of all the people who follow your type of football (aka soccer) are immigrants from south of the Mexican border (including South America) and Euros. It's just a fact. You can argue about it until you're blue in the face, but you can't make that sport popular here. Many have tried and failed. Even bringing some of the world's best players to the NASL in the '70s didn't work.
As for rugby vs. American/Canadian football, who cares? You've started a pointless argument. I will tell you this, though-- I used to go to a chiropractor who played rugby on the New Zealand All-blacks (his name is Duncan Hales, look him up) and I asked him which sport was worse for the human body. He said American football is far worse, precisely because of the padding (specifically the helmets). In rugby, since there are no helmets, they avoid head-on collisions. N. American football is a game of high-speed head-on collisions. Maybe rugby players lose teeth, but if you could somehow check stats I'm sure you'll find there are more serious injuries (i.e. spinal injuries, paralysis, permanent knee ligament damage, concussions) in football. This is why the average career of an NFL player is less than 4 seasons. Both sports are full of wackos. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2003 : 08:36:02
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quote:
Originally posted by ivandivel
quote:
Originally posted by BLT
That's fine, as long as your country doesn't have another sport that's 1000 times more popular called "football".
wuzzball.
And far more popular than soccer in North America. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2003 : 09:11:30
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See, football (ie not soccer) is an inappropriate name for the sport, but it's named and it's done. Soccer has no meaning (it doesn't imply a body part) and could easily have been the name for American football, and then football the name for soccer, since one uses one's feet much more in soccer than in football.
However, we already have a sport called football and it's probably not going to be renamed anytime soon, so our friends on the other side of the Atlantic might have to bite the bullet and start calling it soccer.
Now you have to ask yourself, was I being intentionally confusing?
 "Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2003 : 09:57:22
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umm, football (ie soccer) is much more popular than american football globally. the world cup for example. that reminds me, the world series in baseball....thats rather a bit of false advertising isnt it?
i have no problem with americans calling american football, football, because its like rugby fans being told to call rugby, rugby football, which *is* its full name.
"Joan my Clerk of Trompe / And You'll be chick-a-be enlightened" |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2003 : 10:24:29
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
See, football (ie not soccer) is an inappropriate name for the sport, but it's named and it's done. Soccer has no meaning (it doesn't imply a body part) and could easily have been the name for American football, and then football the name for soccer, since one uses one's feet much more in soccer than in football.
However, we already have a sport called football and it's probably not going to be renamed anytime soon, so our friends on the other side of the Atlantic might have to bite the bullet and start calling it soccer.
Now you have to ask yourself, was I being intentionally confusing?
This is what I was trying to say. However, I don't think any of us should change what we call these things. Different words mean different things in different areas. I'm not going to start calling cookies "biscuits" because someone in the UK says so. And I don't expect them to start calling crisps "potato chips". Adapt to wherever you are. No big deal.
As for the World Series, I agree it's a misnomer. I'm still going to call it the "World Series" though. Otherwise no one will know what the fuck I'm talking about.
Any other American sports we want to tackle now? |
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2003 : 11:31:21
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Congratulations Danishboy. A little revenge against the English!
Can't say that the win proves much.....I mean....it is only England.
Goldenballs mustn't have been at his best!
And by the way, the sport is called football.
Maybe the MLS in America can be called soccer.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?! |
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Danishboy
- FB Fan -
Denmark
175 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2003 : 13:20:24
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Yes the Danish did it 3-2 against England. Itīs 20 years since the last victory, so this is a great day for Danish "FOOTBALL". It proves that even small countries can play!
And last but not least. To all you americans well i pity you, i would rather see a sport that the rest off the plays and enjoys.
Itīs like when you meet another person from another country you can always talk about "FOOTBALL" you all get stuck on the weather.
Man of steel |
Edited by - Danishboy on 11/16/2003 13:21:46 |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2003 : 16:11:47
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quote:
Originally posted by Danishboy
To all you americans well i pity you, i would rather see a sport that the rest off the plays and enjoys.
Pity us if you wish. But you can't make us care about soccer!
Who cares about world popularity anyway? If popularity had any intelligence behind it, Frank Black would be the highest paid entertainer on Earth.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 00:12:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Danishboy
Yes the Danish did it 3-2 against England. Itīs 20 years since the last victory, so this is a great day for Danish "FOOTBALL". It proves that even small countries can play!
And last but not least. To all you americans well i pity you, i would rather see a sport that the rest off the plays and enjoys.
Itīs like when you meet another person from another country you can always talk about "FOOTBALL" you all get stuck on the weather.
Man of steel
Give all the pity you want, but who has a better chance of making it to the World Cup final in the next 25 years, Denmark or the US? The US national team is improving rapidly, may have the best under-16 player in the world (Freddy Adu), many kids in the US are playing, and the US has the money and population size to become a consistently good team. I truly believe that the US going to become an upper echelon team, but still most Americans won't care.
I love watching and playing soccer, but most of the US is quite statisfied with baseball, football, basketball, NASCAR, golf, and hockey. And most Americans don't find themselves often talking to people from other countries. |
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 01:17:53
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quote:
Originally posted by BLT
Who cares about world popularity anyway? If popularity had any intelligence behind it, Frank Black would be the highest paid entertainer on Earth.
Damn you BLT, you make a good point and your name makes me hungry.
"Joan my Clerk of Trompe / And You'll be chick-a-be enlightened" |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 01:35:35
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Danish Boy, firstly, I don't want to know!
Well done, I guess, but who won when it counted? i.e. in the World Cup? hmm?
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 09:11:36
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quote:
Originally posted by misleadtheworld
quote:
Originally posted by BLT
Who cares about world popularity anyway? If popularity had any intelligence behind it, Frank Black would be the highest paid entertainer on Earth.
Damn you BLT, you make a good point and your name makes me hungry.
Thanks to Frank, we can all get along. |
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Danishboy
- FB Fan -
Denmark
175 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 10:00:00
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First to all Americans. When you qualified for the World Cup, you played against teams like Jamica, Costa Rica, some off the caribian islands. Need i explain???? Denmark play against Czech Republic(Pavel Nedved), Bulgarien you know teams from euro!!!
Not to forget Denmark kicked France out of the tournament.
And your place in the World ranking, itīs a hotair ballon.
I fear the Island team more than US, come on lets be real about it.
I think every team has a chance of winning the World Cup, it takes skill but also luck.
And Denmark had both in 92 European Champion. We beat France in the 3/4 final, Holland in the semi-final, and Germany the Final.
Man of steel |
Edited by - Danishboy on 11/17/2003 10:02:49 |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 10:04:45
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I don't dispute that the US has an easier time qualifying. That is part of why I think they have a better chance of making the finals than second-tier European teams (by that I mean not Germany, Italy, France, Spain, England, and others).
I know the US isn't a dominant team (clearly) but we aren't to be taken lightly anymore. |
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Danishboy
- FB Fan -
Denmark
175 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 10:53:47
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quote:
Originally posted by darwin
I don't dispute that the US has an easier time qualifying. That is part of why I think they have a better chance of making the finals than second-tier European teams (by that I mean not Germany, Italy, France, Spain, England, and others).
I know the US isn't a dominant team (clearly) but we aren't to be taken lightly anymore.
Itīs like shoting yourself in the foot , by not playing the tough teams, well then you dont know what to expect.
I like you think that Denmark, isa "second-tier" team, cause we dont get along with expectation. Denmark play the best "FOOTBALL" when were the underdogs
Teams like England has players that we would die for, but their goals is to win and nothing else.
We say in Denmark, dont fly higher than your wings can bear.
Man of steel |
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jbstevens
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
102 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 11:53:29
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Here's a quick genealogy of the 'football' family:
Football:
ancient, played by various rules for centuries. In the 1800's, two games emerged, as most English public schools had a similar set of rules except Rugby school, which played by rules involving handling the ball and kicking over the bar.
Association Football (soccer):
Can be deemed to have been born when the Football Association was created in 1863, documenting a standard set of rules, following those used by most public schools.
Rugby Football:
Followed the rules played at Rugby school. Rules were first formally documented in 1862. Contrary to popular myth, the game wasn't created when during a game of 'soccer' a pupil picked up the ball and ran with it, to be told by the teacher 'nice try'.
Rugby Union/Rugby League:
Two sports, variations on the same theme born out of the class divide in England in 1895. Rugby League was created by northern working class clubs who paid players who would otherwise lose their income as they gave up working time to play. Rugby Union was dominated by middle classes who could afford to give up time to play for free.
American Football:
Created primarily by Walter Camp in the years leading up to 1882 by tweaking the rules of Rugby Football, with perhaps the biggest impact being the removal of the 'scrum' to replace with a 'scrimmage' as Camp didn't like the fact that the team putting the ball into play in Rugby wasn't able to enjoy possession without interference.
Australian Rules Football:
Commonly thought to derive from Gaelic football, Aussie rules was in fact created in 1859 by an ex-Rugby School pupil Tom Wills who wanted something to play in winter when the cricket season was over in Australia
Which brings me to ... what about Baseball vs. Cricket? Isn't baseball just 'Rounders'?
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Edited by - jbstevens on 11/17/2003 11:54:39 |
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 12:05:03
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Baseball is not even a sport! It is America's favourite pastime!
Peter Schmeichel walks on water!
Freddy Adu is looking good but so does every 16 and 17 year old Brazilian as well as pretty much every youngster in the Ajax youth academy as well as all the kids in the Liverpool, Man Unt and West Ham youth schools.
The US should not be taken lightly as there is the chance of looking like fools if you even draw against them. The US is a cash grab. Just look at Man UNt and the tour they are doing. Money, money and more money!
The novelty will wear off in the States.
Please don't mention that you like the game of hockey. Shit, the States did all they could to attempt to sabotage a great Canadian Heritage. Stick to the sports that no one else has time for, like Nascar. Gotta love a sport where you can bring your trailor to the game and park it in the middle of all the exciting crashes!
All jokes! The States are good people. The government sucks!
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?! |
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Danishboy
- FB Fan -
Denmark
175 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 13:14:21
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Back in the 8ties when everything was great. I remember watching premier league on the Danish national tv, every weekend.
My favorite team were Liverpools, Ian rush, Greg Sunes and the mad goalie Bruce Grobbelaar.
But in the 9ties when the big boss of sky television, bought the game everything changed.
Well nowadays i dont see premier league anymore, but i do know Micheal Owen.
Still itīs not the same.
Maybe the game grew, but the at whos expence?
Dont misunderstand i love FOOTBALL and always will.
Man of steel |
Edited by - Danishboy on 11/17/2003 13:16:45 |
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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =
USA
725 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 13:43:06
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I love this thread. Such worthless international pride in their Soccer superiority over the US. Yet if the US went around boasting that we can kick any country's ass in Football the rest of the world would say "who cares?" (correctly). Dont be surprised that the vast majority of Americans dont care who wins the Soccer World Cup.
That being said, soccer is getting bigger and bigger in the US and when America does win a World Cup in Soccer think how BITTER the rest of the world will be! And the best part is that most of the US players will be immigrants or 1st/2nd generation Americans - they or their parents will CHOOSE to live and prosper here in the good 'ol USA. The American dream LIVES!!!!!
I have my money on the Canadians when it comes to curling though...
Oh yeah, GO MAN-U!!! |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 14:03:21
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Originally posted by BrendanT
the States did all they could to attempt to sabotage a great Canadian Heritage.
I hear you. Is it possible for a professional sports league to be more watered down than the NHL is now? Possibly the worst case of over-expansion ever. Columbus, Ohio???
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Originally posted by jbstevens
Isn't baseball just 'Rounders'?
Similar games but baseball gets slightly better television ratings. |
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 14:08:59
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Don't even think about fucking with our Bonspiel's! We don't need a red laser line to follow our rocks.
Oh yeah. Who the fuck are Man Unt? (you can even sing this line if you like!)
Go you Reds!
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?! |
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Danishboy
- FB Fan -
Denmark
175 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 15:37:10
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I also heard a story about the americans wanted to make the field smaller. Is this true???
If itīs true well, itīs the american way if you dont like it well change it, maybe you can cut a game into 4 quarters to make more room for commercials.
Man of steel |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 15:40:49
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You're better off ignoring Man Utd, I think: they might just go away. You want a real team? Follow the mighty Saints (who at one point featured the legendary Bruce Grobelaar himself, before he got banned for match-fixing!).
And, also basically there's no way the USA will ever win the World Cup: your best chance came when your best player looked like that Carrot Top guy and the goalie dived into the post. Puh-lease.
American Football = rugby for girls
Baseball = rounders for girls
Ice Hockey = shinty for girls
Basketball = netball for girls (and I know this is something of a misnomer, but there's a recurring theme here)
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 16:05:49
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Field smaller, nets bigger and four quarters. All in the name of excitement!
I think they even wanted the guys to start wearing sports bras!
Saints for Europe!
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?! |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2003 : 16:09:44
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quote:
Originally posted by BrendanT
Field smaller, nets bigger and four quarters. All in the name of excitement!
I think they even wanted the guys to start wearing sports bras!
Saints for Europe!
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?!
There's a man with his head screwed on! Actually, Saints made Europe this year, but were squeezed out by Steau Bucharest. Denied!
But, respect to a man who can recognise the best team in the country, and who also has the best signature.
Good work my friend.
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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