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The POPE
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
5 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2003 :  06:00:24  Show Profile
I suggested this somewhere else and one kind person agreed with me, so that's good enough for me. What I propose is a gloss (think T.S Eliot's The Wasteland); Frank black's work is rife with mythology, historical and cultural reference that goes right over my head(who the fuck ARE the Wiyot) so why not take indiv songs + uncover their mysteries. I don't expect the good people at Frankblack.net to do this as its so much work, but the forum is perfect. So who didn't sleep for 81 weeks, when, where, what is the st francis dam disaster and why should I care(make me care!), who is procrienda, billy radcliffe, Thalissocracy, robert gunther and the rest, is 'this old heartache' just the musical of hemmingway's fiesta. I know that only FRank can tell us who all these women are that occur so often, but which BEckett rants... samuel beckett or Dr sam beckett(who stepped into the quantum leap excelerator and...),use internet, libraries, hell! ask your mother, just name the song and provide (very)small biograpies of char or folk background or maybe just summations of the songs meaning, even textual criticism would be amusing(i'm V. bored), just make me understand FRank better or just think of it as killing time between birth and death whatever...

BUT

"please know for your own sake that I can be a moody guy'

panoply
- FB Fan -

Germany
29 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2003 :  07:51:23  Show Profile
i´d love to do this, especially for the ones like me who can´t breathe the language. at times i get? helpless

The Saint Francis Dam Disaster (1928)

Los Angeles is arid. Water for its populace must be brought from hundreds of miles away. In 1913 the Los Angeles water department, led by its celebrated chief engineer, William Mulholland, completed its famed aqueduct to channel water from the distant Owens Valley. But the farmers of that valley resisted, going so far as to dynamite the aqueduct in 1924 and interrupt the city's water supply for several weeks. Besides, what if the aqueduct were severed by an earthquake? To solve the problem, Mulholland and his engineers built a 180-foot-high, 600-foot-long dam in San Francisquito Canyon near Saugus.

By 1926 it was filled with water, twelve and half billion gallons of it, enough to hold a year’s supply of water for the entire city of one million, two hundred thousand people.

At three minutes before midnight on March 12, 1928, though, the dam gave way, and a 78-foot wall of water tumbled toward the Pacific Ocean 54 miles away, bringing ranches, automobiles, animals, trees, boulders, houses and people with it. Within an hour or so, more than 500 men, women and children were dead, and the little coastal town of Santa Paula lay crumpled beneath twenty-five feet of mud and filth.

"happiness is a word for amateurs"
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2003 :  11:18:31  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
I don't know if the forum archive search is working, but there have been several threads about song meaning on this forum. The frank black song index, mentioned here several times, complete with some explanations and definitions (not 100%, though):

http://members.cox.net/fbsi/index.html

Hope that helps!

Why do you need someone else to make you interested/dig it up for you/ part of FB's appeal is doing some of the work yourself - ala riddle solving. Most times when asked about a song's meaning or a layer of puzzles in its structure, he responds (to paraphrase) "all the clues are there". It's about your mind having to work a little bit, and therefore growing and expanding in a way that he loosely prescribes, ya dig?

"I partied with the Cult of Frank / Bob ate all the dip"

Edited by - apl4eris on 11/12/2003 11:22:30
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2003 :  22:19:09  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Hey, the SongDB has a lot of entries on tunes, this is the beta, as mentioned in another thread:

www.frankblack.net/songs

Don't you read your own threads POPE?
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JoobJoobbird
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
10 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2003 :  04:37:03  Show Profile
From what I can gather 'His Kingly Cave'appears to refer to 'graceland'as it stands today. The references to bullet holes in the back and polished jewels under two inch glass etc
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2003 :  10:56:36  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Indeed it does, Joob Joob.


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =

USA
2677 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2003 :  11:01:48  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage
Yep, Graceland on 'shrooms.

Dean, you must be sick indeed--you should be plugging the tribute album & your own fab version of HKC, thangyuhverrymuch.


"I joined the Cult of Frank / And all I got was this lousy icon"

Edited by - mereubu on 11/13/2003 11:02:57
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