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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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 Posted - 11/11/2003 : 08:49:47
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Nothing political. Just a thanks to all who serve.
Thomas
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1615 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 08:50:44
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 09:21:17
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now i know why there was no traffic going to work today. i was actually early for once..
thomas, in honor of your veteran status, next time i see you i'll offer to buy you another beer, even though you'll refuse it. like last time. |
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1615 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 09:39:33
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You'll never forgive me for that, will you.
As long as were are not at another concert I'll be glad to accept anything you throw at me.
People please don't kill me. I know in some circles refusing a drink is not a good thing, but I haven't had a drink at a show since I saw Metallica in Biloxi, MS. in 1988. It was general admission on the arena floor and the first thing they are selling as you head for the stage is BEER. We all buy a cup or two and drink away as we wait for the show............As time passes I must have gone to the restroom 2 or 3 times before the show was over. There for I don't drink before or during the show.
Back on topic.
Tony, I accept.
Thomas
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 10:46:03
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Yes...thank you veterans.
And sorry to all the ones who aren't alive.
And to all the ones in danger in Iraq right now...please come home NOW and come home safe. |
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Danishboy
- FB Fan -
Denmark
175 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 12:46:42
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Respect are due, thank´s to Usa 4 kicking jerrys ass.
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1615 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 13:08:13
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More importantly the Nazi ass. I'm sure you'll find a few Germans on the board who are good people, the rest are trying hard.
Thomas
"Our love is rice and beans and horses lard" |
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1615 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 13:28:50
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| Holy cow Tony, you been posting shitloads since while I was gone. Remember you made that crack to my wife how I had the most posts on the board. That will be a year ago tomorrow, Bowery Ballroom 11/12/02. Now look at us. Your 1464 to my 461. You need a new hobby. How's the beard coming? |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 14:32:33
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Nazi's ass, Thomas?
11-11 is the end of the Great War, right? World War One?
The were no nazi's involved in that one...
Or isn't veteran's day (I'm not familiar with it, sounds American to me) for all the veteran's ever?
Because I'm quit positive today is the memorial day of the first world war.
Also:
The start of dutch/catholic carnaval (I'm not attending)
And some sort of haloween without the scary things but with the candy
it's called St.Maarten over here, so it's probably catholic also
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 14:42:00
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The holiday that commemmorated the ending of the Great War, World War I, (supposedly the armistice was signed at 11:00 on the day, too) was changed after World War II to be a holiday to celebrate all veterans of all wars. People thought that World War I was the biggest war imaginable, how tragically wrong they were.
BTW, did you know there's only about 40 something WWI vets still alive today? |
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <
3648 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 16:00:50
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Best wishes to all on this holiday...
I want to buy beers for you guys, before, during or after the show, whenever you would like it.
My friend, a young man around 22, is blind in his eye. He and his buddy had a grenade launcher backfire on them. They both lived but my buddy's friend nearly died and Peter is blind in his right eye. He's come back to the hills and is planning on building guitars in a cabin in the woods. He said 100's of Iraqi citizens knew him by name from his patrols. He spoke very positively of his experience there, and that the citizens were really curious and friendly and... I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been personally effected by this war and other wars... there are plenty of wars out there
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 16:04:29
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Originally posted by Thomas
Holy cow Tony, you been posting shitloads since while I was gone. Remember you made that crack to my wife how I had the most posts on the board. That will be a year ago tomorrow, Bowery Ballroom 11/12/02. Now look at us. Your 1464 to my 461. You need a new hobby. How's the beard coming?
1464 is just a drop in the bucket to what i hope to accomplish.
i hope that by the end of the year i'll have at least 25,000.
yeah, no, you're right. i need help. i need a girlfriend. do you have any sisters? |
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Little Black Francis
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3648 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 16:06:39
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 17:50:38
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Originally posted by Danishboy
Respect are due, thank´s to Usa 4 kicking jerrys ass.
Not just the USA you know. Thanks to all of the people around the world who sacrificed their lives to give Hitler / Mussolini / Hirohito a good pasting. Plus the guys who did it before in WW1. They all deserve the worlds respect!
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 18:55:22
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Although it can be said that Germany was definitely responsible for WWII, I have been thinking it's not so cut and dry for WWI...In invading France, Germany was instituting a plan reacting to the Russians, who were going to set up troops along the eastern fronts of Germany and Austria-Hungary. Maybe Germany was a little bit overzealous in their defensive parameters, but any country would've done essentially the same thing at the time...everyone was feeling pretty paranoid. After Germany lost, maybe the punishments we inflicted on them wouldn't have made them so resentful of the Allies' victory, thus making WWII a little less likely? Or it could've simply been an inevitable conflict that nothing could've been done to prevent. Anyone's opinions on this?
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.
Carl Sagan
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 21:38:58
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I didn't even know it was Vets Day until I got to work. No wonder I didn't get any mail. Is anyone else fascinated with WWII like I am? I think it's partly because of my WWII game playing, but back in grade school I had a somewhat unhealthy (and now that I look back at it, somewhat creepy) interest in Hitler.
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 21:59:51
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Dictators are pretty interesting. Hitler is credited with being an evil guy, which is true, but so many more people died under Joseph Stalin's government...
I don't know much about Mussolini.
I did start reading "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" which contained alot about Hitler. Apparently he started out as an artist in Vienna (which I'm sure most of you guys are aware of.) I wonder if he had made it as an artist, if he still would've turned to politics? Then we may never have had an Adolf Hitler, but I'm sure it would've been someone else...
I'd say that the generals under Hitler are just as evil if not moreso than Adolf himself...like Goebbels, and Goering. All the fucked-up medical atrocities they performed on the Jews...
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.
Carl Sagan
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <
3648 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 22:01:12
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 22:01:45
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Eat some pork. But make sure it's kosher!
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.
Carl Sagan
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 22:03:58
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Are you sure you don't want to post that last message in the "Spicy Food" thread?
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.
Carl Sagan
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 22:11:28
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We call it Remembrance Day in Canada, though I'm not sure if I would call it 'happy'. ;) A thank-you, though, to the people who fought so that we wouldn't have to.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2003 : 09:07:55
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To Glacial,
being a first year History student, this is what I think:
as for joseph stalin:
-he is responsible for more dead people then Hitler
-the russians were (with USA and Canada of course) responsible for ending WWII
if find that there huge losses in that war are often overshadowed and that there aren't
credited for what they did. I know that we should not praise Stalin, and that he probably
joined the USA side for the wrong reasons, but over here people were kissing the American and
Canadian butts (and so they should), there were much much babies born in Holland the next year
who were from a Canadian or American soldier. I think it's sad nobody ever thanked the Russians
or that there isn't a memorial day for the Russian soldiers who died for our freedom.
WWI and WWII can be seen as one big war. True, there was no fighting in the 20's and 30's, but WWII is just a reaction on WWI. WWI did not happen due one crounty, not Germany alone anyway.
Crazy as it seems, people all over Europe were really into war. I saw a BBC documentary, and a very very old man told about the new years eve of 1900, he said to his brother that night:I'm hoping there will be a war soon. There were 50000 war poems written every day in Germany just before the war started. One of the reasons that WWI started was that lots of countries wanted more influence in the Balkan countries, I don't have my textbook with me, I should look it up, but I guess that was one of the main reasons. Besides that the huge technical revolution, like airplanes and tanks, people wanted to try them, there was some sort of cold war going on (countries thought that if they build much war instruments it would prevent an actual war rom happening), with the exeption that this war collapsed into a very hot one.
After that the act of Versailles was so crazy, Germany was really pushed into the NAZI hands.
hope I do not sound too geeky or flashy,etc.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2003 : 09:59:32
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quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
To Glacial,
being a first year History student, this is what I think:
as for joseph stalin:
-he is responsible for more dead people then Hitler
-the russians were (with USA and Canada of course) responsible for ending WWII
Perhaps Russia/USA/Canada helped end the war, but the British deserve an immense amount of praise for holding the line. |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2003 : 10:16:08
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Originally posted by El Barto
I didn't even know it was Vets Day until I got to work. No wonder I didn't get any mail. Is anyone else fascinated with WWII like I am? I think it's partly because of my WWII game playing, but back in grade school I had a somewhat unhealthy (and now that I look back at it, somewhat creepy) interest in Hitler.
"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open."
El Barto, you're like that kid from apt pupil. . . .freak.
And btw, how is veterans day or celebrating the soldiers not political?
 "I joined the Cult of Popeye / The CoF required my good eye" |
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2003 : 10:21:07
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Probably just not meant to reveal any political conventions that might otherwise end up in a broiling hotbed of debate, would be my guess. (As has happened before...moreso with current events though, like US in Iraq, etc...)
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.
Carl Sagan
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2003 : 11:33:09
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by billgoodman
To Glacial,
being a first year History student, this is what I think:
as for joseph stalin:
-he is responsible for more dead people then Hitler
-the russians were (with USA and Canada of course) responsible for ending WWII
Perhaps Russia/USA/Canada helped end the war, but the British deserve an immense amount of praise for holding the line.
Very true, very true. Churchill must have been a hell of a leader to hold the country together and keep resisting in the face of what the nazis were throwing at them.
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2003 : 11:40:39
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Originally posted by glacial906
Apparently he started out as an artist in Vienna (which I'm sure most of you guys are aware of.) I wonder if he had made it as an artist, if he still would've turned to politics? Then we may never have had an Adolf Hitler, but I'm sure it would've been someone else...
hitler suffered of complete lack of talent.and he was pretty frustrated about it too.i 've seen some of his paintings and they suck bigtime(most professional art critics think the same)
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2003 : 11:43:57
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"There is not time yet to fight the things we do in order to stand together under this one great time. May that yet we do befall our only greatness."
---Winston Churchill
He said the above thing. |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
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Posted - 11/12/2003 : 11:51:43
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anybody has a relative who actually fought in WW 2?one of the things i missed the most as a child was not having a grandfather to tell me stories about it.my father's father was killed at the civil war that followed the liberation of greece.before that he was a communist partizan but my father never wanted to talk about him.
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2003 : 13:05:53
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My grandfather was in WWII, but I don't think he was at the front lines of battle, and he's rarely told any stories.
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2003 : 13:12:37
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It seems that many people who fought in that war don't like to talk about it. I have heard others comment on this, and my step-grandfather and my mother's father were in the war but never speak of it.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2003 : 13:22:16
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I can't imagine wanting to dredge up those old memories. Even if it helps us to remember just how awful it must have been...
My grandpa also fought in the Greek civil war but thankfully survived to liberate Greece. But I don't know Greek well enough to converse with him. :(
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
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Posted - 11/12/2003 : 13:31:19
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
I can't imagine wanting to dredge up those old memories. Even if it helps us to remember just how awful it must have been...
My grandpa also fought in the Greek civil war but thankfully survived to liberate Greece. But I don't know Greek well enough to converse with him. :(
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
do you have a greek grandfather?that's so cool.
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
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Posted - 11/12/2003 : 13:33:13
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i thinks its greasy. hur hur...
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2003 : 13:43:52
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Originally posted by mun chien andalusia
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
I can't imagine wanting to dredge up those old memories. Even if it helps us to remember just how awful it must have been...
My grandpa also fought in the Greek civil war but thankfully survived to liberate Greece. But I don't know Greek well enough to converse with him. :(
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
do you have a greek grandfather?that's so cool.
join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
www.superabound.altervista.org
Actually, my father is also Greek - he moved to Canada when he was 17.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
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Posted - 11/12/2003 : 13:56:31
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that explains your passion for black and white,neutral rinocerouses.well i can only be happy that another greek is on this board.and an important one too,even if he's half american.you are something like doukakis or pataki.an important greek american.hahahaha.
ps:please reply to my mail about the tribute artwork
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