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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  09:52:21  Show Profile
though many consider Teenager Of The Year to be Frank's best album, i'm curious if there is anyone who would consider The Unambiguously Yellow Album to be equal, if not better..

TOTY has more songs.. and admittedly, some of Frank's absolute best are on there. but can you deny the sheer brilliance of TUYA? Fu Manchu, Los Angeles, Ten Percenter..

it's a tough call..



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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

3648 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  09:57:30  Show Profile
I think the fact that TOTY is a double album makes it more appealing because are a lot more songs, 22 right? Even with such classis as Parry the Wind, Adda Lee, Everytime I go Around Here and the likes, TUYA just fewer songs, but they're all masterpeices.

I'd have to vote TOTY on size, and no color controversy,
As fas as heart, I'd think they are equal.

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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  10:09:45  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
TOTY hands down. You should see my kids asking to hear the Hoo Hoo song. They never ask for anything from TUYA. TOTY is a family favorite with lots of catchy sing along songs. The Hoo Hoo song, the Ole song and my sons new favorite The Phoenix song.

Thomas
"Our love is rice and beans and horses lard"

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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  10:16:40  Show Profile
I love the Hoo Hoo song.

TOTY probably.


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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  10:22:06  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
Ever since my daughter starting requesting the Hoo Hoo song my son has moved on to the Phoenix song. Though he still sings along to the Hoo Hoo song. Sibling rivalry, never to early to start.

Thomas
"Our love is rice and beans and horses lard"
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  10:32:50  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
I would say TUYA, simply because of the higher concentration of high quality songs. TOTY is a little bit patchy, and I've never been keen on double albums in general. This is just personal opinion though.


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gracie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  10:34:52  Show Profile
Both are really good, but it has to be teenager.
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Thomas
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USA
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  10:37:46  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
Double Album - Mine was only 1 tape. Yes I only own the cassette. We jam to it in the car. Hoo Hoo Hoo. Hoo. hoo hoo hoo hoo. ba ba ba ba.

Thomas
"Our love is rice and beans and horses lard"
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  11:53:57  Show Profile
yeah, but it has enough songs to be a double album

mine is only one cd

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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  12:20:56  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
I vote we rename TOTY to the unambiuously-long-single-but-could-be-double-album.

ULSBCDDA for short.


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Willyzen
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Canada
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  12:24:07  Show Profile
Let's not forget, Cult of ray. Very rock and roll. Come to think of it , I don't think I can actually pick a favorite one.
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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  12:46:19  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I vote we rename TOTY to the unambiuously-long-single-but-could-be-double-album.

ULSBCDDA for short.


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"


greeks in their infinite wisdom have a proverb about this kind of situations(Unambiguously Yellow Album \unambiuously-long-single-but-could-be-double-album kind of situations):

an i giagia mou ihe rodes tha itane patini
translated:
if my grandmother had wheels she would be a skateboard



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Johnny Yen
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USA
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  12:49:40  Show Profile  Visit Johnny Yen's Homepage
You cheeseheads! TOTY is a double album since ya get 2 records with it. It IS a single cd, and a single cassette, but if you're going to use the phrase album, then it's a double. I think it translates well into the single cd format.
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  12:55:17  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by mun chien andalusia

quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I vote we rename TOTY to the unambiuously-long-single-but-could-be-double-album.

ULSBCDDA for short.


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"


greeks in their infinite wisdom have a proverb about this kind of situations(Unambiguously Yellow Album \unambiuously-long-single-but-could-be-double-album kind of situations):

an i giagia mou ihe rodes tha itane patini
translated:
if my grandmother had wheels she would be a skateboard



join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
www.munchienandalusia.too.it




Yes, those Greeks have wisdom for every situation, though I think that in this case the following sums it up best:

To mauros rinokeros den einai aspros.


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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  13:00:49  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

quote:
Originally posted by mun chien andalusia

quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I vote we rename TOTY to the unambiuously-long-single-but-could-be-double-album.

ULSBCDDA for short.


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"


greeks in their infinite wisdom have a proverb about this kind of situations(Unambiguously Yellow Album \unambiuously-long-single-but-could-be-double-album kind of situations):

an i giagia mou ihe rodes tha itane patini
translated:
if my grandmother had wheels she would be a skateboard



join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
www.munchienandalusia.too.it




Yes, those Greeks have wisdom for every situation, though I think that in this case the following sums it up best:

To mauros rinokeros den einai aspros.


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"



that would be: O mavros rinokeros den einai aspros,since it's male and not neutral.not bad though,i'm impressed


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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  13:15:21  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Heh, true 'nuf, my bad. I want to spend a year or so in Greece and become fluent, but clearly I'm not there yet...


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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  13:29:13  Show Profile  Visit the swimmer's Homepage
I still think you can call a cd an album.

An album indicates a collection of records.

A record indicates the actual recorded song.

I don't think that the words album or record have to indicate a format, ie vinyl.

That's just someone from Nashville (me) talking though.
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

3648 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  13:55:24  Show Profile
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realmeanmotorscutor
> Teenager of the Year <



USA
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Posted - 11/06/2003 : 10:16:40
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I love the Hoo Hoo song.

TOTY probably.


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"I joined the Cult of Popeye / The CoF required my good eye"




I just listented TOTY and I still can't figure out what the hoo hoo song is... : (

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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  13:58:30  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis

quote:
realmeanmotorscutor
> Teenager of the Year <



USA
689 Posts
Posted - 11/06/2003 : 10:16:40
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I love the Hoo Hoo song.

TOTY probably.


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"I joined the Cult of Popeye / The CoF required my good eye"




I just listented TOTY and I still can't figure out what the hoo hoo song is... : (

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i was about to post the same thing...what is the hoo hoo song?


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Thomas
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USA
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  14:06:12  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis




I just listented TOTY and I still can't figure out what the hoo hoo song is... : (

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Big Red! at the end of the song. Whenever it ends they want me to play the Hoo Hoo song again, but now that my daughter likes it too my son insists on hearing the Phoenix song or "Space Is Gonna Do Me Good." When it ends, SIGDMG, he'll say to her "You like it? That's my song. Do you like it?"
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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  14:17:32  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas

quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis




I just listented TOTY and I still can't figure out what the hoo hoo song is... : (

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Big Red! at the end of the song. Whenever it ends they want me to play the Hoo Hoo song again, but now that my daughter likes it too my son insists on hearing the Phoenix song or "Space Is Gonna Do Me Good." When it ends, SIGDMG, he'll say to her "You like it? That's my song. Do you like it?"



your son has an excellent music taste.the hoo hoo song is one of my favourite fb songs too but when it gets too commercial the phoenix song is a great alternative.


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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  15:15:01  Show Profile
that's as cute as floop
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  17:33:58  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
I'd have to go with the Yellow album myself, though TOTY is also a masterpiece.

Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  17:35:07  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis

that's as cute as floop


You have no idea how cute he is too. I've got the photos to proove it.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
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Posted - 11/06/2003 :  19:24:29  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Self-titled is definitely better...fewer songs, tighter selection...better songs.


"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open."
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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  20:52:38  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by El Barto

Self-titled is definitely better...fewer songs, tighter selection...better songs.


"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open."



word up El Barto. you know what's going on..

TUYA is all i've had in my car cd player this week. i NEVER get sick of it. seriously.

i can't get enough of horns.. i wish Frank would get some serious horns going on again on one of his records. does The Snake not prove that horns and Frank = good.

and this is coming from someone who truly hates the sax, as discussed in another thread a while back. but i think the sax solo on The Snake is one of the highlights of the album.



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Edited by - floop on 11/10/2003 14:43:22
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Bartholomew
= Cult of Ray =

USA
344 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2003 :  06:04:54  Show Profile
There's not even a question. TOTY. The hoo hoo song rules. When I seen Frank on the FB&TC's self titled album tour they started the show off with it. One of my favorite live moments. And what a great show starter...You hear that baby and you just know the show is going to be FUN.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 11/07/2003 :  14:33:04  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address
I think TOTY is better than TUNA. I'm not a big fan of fish.

Seriously, though, I think TOTY is better, probably mostly because of the sheer number of songs. On the other hand, I think some of the better songs are on TUYA. Neither of them have any really weak songs, though.

And, for what it's worth, I actually DO like fish, but not tuna.

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And how does lemur's skin reflect the sea?
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The Holiday Son
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France
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Posted - 11/07/2003 :  15:15:17  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage
Teenager all the way.
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 11/07/2003 :  16:46:27  Show Profile
I discovered Frank Black (and then the Pixies) with TOTY. I was in a record shop, I heard Pong/thalassocracy and became crazy with Frank.
You'll never get bored with it, so many different styles and rythms, and it has Freedom Rock, Fazer Eyes, Superabound, Speedy Marie, Calistan, Headache, Abstract Plain, White Noise Maker...

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cigarinthesky
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USA
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Posted - 11/10/2003 :  11:38:13  Show Profile
I used to like TUYA more, now it's TOTY. It'll probably go back at some point. It's like Zeppelin or the Beatles .. you get to a point where you don't even have a favorite anymore because it's all good - so at different points different ones will be your fave. I love the Hoo Hoo song, and I love tuna too. Even canned, as long as it's packed in water and not oil. That crap gets all over the place. Even if you use a strainer, it manages to get all over the place. Give me some of that Ahi, baby .. now we're talking ...
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2003 :  12:23:58  Show Profile
I always liked the Orange album until people started calling it TUYA. I think I will give my vote to Pistolero. Oh well!?

Strummer-man
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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 11/10/2003 :  14:32:15  Show Profile
Give me TOTY, but, this is like choosing among your kids.

So much stuff on TOTY. I love to play "2 reelers" for someone and tell them its about the 3 stooges or The Vanishing Spies meaning. That is when they look at me like I am some sort of maniacal music nerd/genius or they look at me like I am their new guru. Always something to discover on TOTY.

Floop - I'm out on the horns in the Snake. For some reason it sounds to me like some guy busted into the room with his sax and started playing just long enough for someone to shove him back outside. It just seems a bit out of place and I wonder what Rich would have done with that solo. JMHO, of course.
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 11/10/2003 :  14:44:35  Show Profile
i don't know, i've just had this horn thing lately. can't get enough of them.

i stand by my the-sax-solo-in-The-Snake-rules statement.
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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =

USA
725 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2003 :  14:53:44  Show Profile
Way to stand by your convictions, I was expecting you to post "you're right, the sax solo sucks, I'm obviously a fraud".

Your highly principled stand has left me wondering if I'm just not getting it, and maybe I am the...fraud...DAMN FLOOP!!!
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 11/10/2003 :  14:58:41  Show Profile
actually i change my mind, the sax solo sucks.
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