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freedom rocker
- FB Fan -

USA
88 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2003 :  19:08:20  Show Profile  Visit freedom rocker's Homepage
I am both a huge frank black and rem fan. I have noticed a lot of similarities in both of them. I'm more of an old rem fan, meaning the IRS label years but i like their new stuff too. Micheals' lyric writing reminds me of Frank blacks' also in that they both use obscure references. The albums DOTS by Frank and Rem's 3rd album "fables fo the reconstruction" remind me a lot of each other as with others. Just wondering how many other FB fans are also REM fans, or do you think they are just a bunch of nerd rocking, enviro- concious garage rockers. MUSIC IS SO SUBJECTIVE.

the blues isn't an art-form, it's a product-- not unlike computer chips and tampons.
--dead milkmen

darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2003 :  20:08:29  Show Profile
I'm an REM fan and Fables of the Reconstruction is one of my favorites. Back then they were known as southern band (or at least southern influenced) and I think that is particularly evident on Fables. I don't, however, see a big similiarity in the lyrics of Stipe and Black. I guess I think of Stipe's lyrics being more stream of conciousness (strung together phrases) and way back then the words were pretty difficult to interpret (he supposed mumbled because of his shyness). Somewhere there's a quote from Frank (I believe in reference to Tom Yorn) about wanting to have lyrics clearly sung.

The Dead Milkmen ruled as well. Their lyrics were always painfully clear.
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2003 :  21:23:06  Show Profile
I liked REM back around the Fables of the Reconstruction days, and Life's Rich Pageant was a good album too. I bought their albums intermittently up until Monster, and then bought nothing new from them since. I don't know exactly why, I just lost interest in them. Mainstream REM, even if they didn't want the fame like they said, is not very good.
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Valhalla
- FB Fan -

Germany
80 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2003 :  22:46:24  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by glacial906

I liked REM back around the Fables of the Reconstruction days, and Life's Rich Pageant was a good album too. I bought their albums intermittently up until Monster, and then bought nothing new from them since. I don't know exactly why, I just lost interest in them. Mainstream REM, even if they didn't want the fame like they said, is not very good.



I agree with you. I loved everything by R.E.M. in the 80's,
especially their albums "Green" and "Murmur". Since Bill Berry (the drummer) left the band, I lost all interest in them. Their last album "Reveal" sounds quite boring to me. I think they better had stayed at the IRS label and never played songs like "Shiny Happy People" or "Everybody hurts". They are really mainstream. A nice "back to the roots" album was "New Adventures in Hifi" from 1996, which was their last good album, I think. But that's all just my personal opinion :-).

Andre
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big_galoof
= Cult of Ray =

USA
310 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2003 :  05:25:55  Show Profile  Visit big_galoof's Homepage
the instrumental break in 'dig for fire' - with the chiming guitar part - could've been lifted right out of an r.e.m. song.

TBG
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 10/30/2003 :  10:19:55  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
I love shiny happy people

or as beavis and butt head said:

When your dick is happy, you're happy






"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do"
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True Blue
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
14 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2003 :  10:42:38  Show Profile  Visit True Blue's Homepage
Yeah right on! Love all things REM, was just thinking how cool they are whilst watching their new DVD today. I think their whole career is pretty consistant Monster and New Adventures are particularly good. Couldn't listen to 'em all day tho, not like Frank or maybe Mudhoney! Anyone else love that band??
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freedom rocker
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USA
88 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2003 :  19:26:40  Show Profile  Visit freedom rocker's Homepage
wHAT I meant by them being similar (especially in "fables") is that they give references to a lot of local stories or they tell those stories

the blues isn't an art-form, it's a product-- not unlike computer chips and tampons.
--dead milkmen
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mark t
- FB Fan -

USA
40 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2003 :  01:34:30  Show Profile
the only thing they have in common is the fact that they are both musicians, though i don't know stipe personally,i don't see any similarities . oh yeah there both bald!

feel pain , get gain
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2003 :  08:03:13  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
They are similar because both Michael Stipe and Frank Black rarely write auto-biographical lyrics; focusing more on stories about other real or imaginary people.

That and the bald thing.


"Join the Cult of Clootie / and you'll get more booty!" www.mp3.com/clootie
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Blank Frack
- FB Fan -

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  11:02:43  Show Profile  Click to see Blank Frack's MSN Messenger address
Which leads to the question, "If you're on a desert island, and you're a small man, and you have your choice between Frank and Michael..."

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MRSHOW
- FB Fan -

USA
17 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  05:36:44  Show Profile
MUDHONEY!
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2003 :  11:09:33  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Blank Frack

Which leads to the question, "If you're on a desert island, and you're a small man, and you have your choice between Frank and Michael..."





I'd pick Frank becuase he can play guitar and accompany himself.


"Join the Cult of Clootie / and you'll get more booty!" www.mp3.com/clootie
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