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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 10/23/2003 : 09:56:16
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This has probably already been asked but I just wanted to know if you guys preferred one over the other.
As for me, I like Surfer Rosa's version more though I know some people are extremely put off by all the wackyness.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2003 : 10:31:48
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Surfer Rosa for sure.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2003 : 11:35:28
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The drums are recorded better in the Surfer Rosa version (of course they are, it's Steve Albini!), so that really does it for me. Particularly the kick sound. It sounds very flat and small in the COP version. I like Frank's vocal performance in the SR version better as well.
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spoon
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Posted - 10/23/2003 : 12:46:31
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hmm...
I like the Pilgrim version better than Surfer Rose. I like the way the acoustic fades in....in such a way that it disguises the time signature of the song until the kick comes in. Plus I like the acoustic sound better than on Surfer Rosa, which is thin and small...like if they recorded it from the internal pickup of an acoustic electric.
The Pilgrim version is tighter too....more concise, and I actually like the sound better than Rosa's reguardless of the engineer.
Plus the Rosa version has a _very_ audible edit at the 2:27-28 mark.
But...I think the live b-side version takes the cake!
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2003 : 12:52:29
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I think the intro to the Surfer Rosa version is the best intro he's ever done. I play it over and over. Oh bloddy hell, now I have to go post that is the "Best Intros" thread. It didn't occur to me til now.
I'll have to listen for that edit spoon.
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Edit: well I can't find that thread now- I refuse to go further than three pages in. I think it might've been for just FB anyhow. |
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
395 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2003 : 13:07:02
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The Surfer version rocks harder, obviously, but I do love the subtle Pilgrim version, especially at the very start -- he sounds very creepy indeed, and when the kick drum sleazes its way in... ahhh. I always think that would sound so cool on a dance floor, even though I don't go in for that stuff at all...
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/23/2003 : 13:50:18
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i prefer the come on pilgrim version. joey's guitar sounds much more spirally, too crisp on the surfer rosa one for me.
the mix of the surfer rosa version is more interesting i guess, with the vocals doubled, or something like that, and the more muted acoustic sound. the panning on joey's guitar feedback on the pilgrim one is really creepy, it kind of moves across now and again, and i love it. someone should use it for a weird horror film scene....
also, i got come on pilgrim on vinyl recently, vamos sounds great on it.... *crackle*.
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2003 : 14:48:33
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Surfer Rosa!
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
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ADT
- FB Fan -
France
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Posted - 10/24/2003 : 01:41:39
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I prefer Surfer Rosa's version.
I love the rythm, and the famous:
"She said: "Don't tou- anybody touch this is my stuff."
And I said "You fucking die!"
Songs in Spanish are great too. The ryth of this song is really cool.
"She said: "Don't tou- anybody touch this is my stuff"
And I said "You fucking die"
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 10/24/2003 : 01:43:19
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I'd go with Come On Pilgrim as well, although I couldn't quantify it. Perhaps I'm subconsciously prejudiced against Steve Albini.
"In Heaven/Everything is fine/You got your good thing/And I've got mine"
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 10/24/2003 : 03:45:01
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quote:
Originally posted by spoon
Plus the Rosa version has a _very_ audible edit at the 2:27-28 mark.
Yes! I love the edit. It adds to the sublime wackiness of the SR version. I must admit though that the acoustic guitar on the SR version (and SR in general) is rather unintelligible. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 10/24/2003 : 04:04:38
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From best to worst:
1) Gigantic ep
2) Surfer Rosa
3) Come on Pilgrim
Let's start a petition to make the Catholics play this one in concert. I want to see Rich soloing like mad on it.
Denis
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2023 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2003 : 14:39:21
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none.
(surfer rosa if I really had to choose) |
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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =
Sweden
308 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2003 : 07:38:46
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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =
USA
936 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2003 : 10:49:21
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I think I prefer the Surfer Rosa version better, there's just a lot more whacky stuff going on in the background. Come On Pilgrim seems more rigid like they were trying to get the perfect take, Surfer Rosa seems more relaxed, I don't know.
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paintmeister
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2003 : 15:32:05
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Surfer Rosa version gets my vote.
Sex without love is an empty experience, but as empty experiences go, it's one of the best.
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oddity
- FB Fan -
Brazil
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Posted - 10/27/2003 : 19:24:34
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I always liked Vamos a lot, so I just can't decide. However, if I would have to choose, it would be the Pilgrim version, and that's for one reason: it was the first that i heard, and I was with a friend of mine and I remember saying: gosh, that sound like some kind of frenzied black and white cartoon, it's so psycho. It was also the first song I heard from the early Pixies era, and for me it represents the essence of Pixies sound and songwriting. I mean, that punk rock / noise / irony thing that I hope is still not dead, expressing itself on the weird guitars and Frank's desperado vocals. Also, David Lovering performs a true stamina job throughout the song. A personal favorite, for sure.
edit: oh yeah, I nearly forgot! the fact that it is such a Pixies song would make it almost impossible to be played by the Catholics, do you realize that?
Oh, there's an spanish grammar error in the intro... "Estaba pensando sobre viviendo" should mean "I was thinking about living" but the actual translation for that would be "Estaba pensando sobre vivir", i.e., the verb should be in the infinitive, not gerund.
"if we get bored, we'll move to california"
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 10/27/2003 : 19:28:15
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Originally posted by oddity
that sound like some kind of frenzied black and white cartoon, it's so psycho.
I love that! Man, I need to remember that if I ever make some crazy cartoon.
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oddity
- FB Fan -
Brazil
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Posted - 10/28/2003 : 17:16:39
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Thanks! That's always been my impression about some of the early Pixies songs... Well, you should try to watch any lysergic cartoon, like SpongeBob, and listen to Pixies simultaneously. Oh yeah, and get stoned before such session. It's wild! LOL
Make a cartoon?! Are you a animator?
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2003 : 21:21:34
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No I'm not an animator, but you never know :)
I hate spongebob, why does everyone love that show?
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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =
USA
936 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2003 : 12:58:36
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I hate it too. With a vengeance, but I love Tom Kinney. What a conundrum.
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2003 : 13:21:10
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Spongebob works on sooooo many levels, I hate it when people pin these kids shows down as for kids only.
 "I joined the Cult of Frank / Because I thought it would straighten out my life, SIR!"
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2003 : 17:38:27
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I never say any cartoon is for kids only. I mentioned in another thread that I watch chalk zone and that's a cartoon that most people would say really is just for little kids. Sponge Bob just sucks, imo. Everything about it annoys me.
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2003 : 21:17:00
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| I didn't much like Ren & Stimpy, either, and Spongebob seems like the same sort of show. |
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