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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1965 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2003 :  17:38:56  Show Profile
Both times I've seen Frank Black live have been solo acoustic performances. Well, they were billed as such, even though when I saw him in Chicago back in Oct. 2002 he had Dave Philips and Scott Boutier playing with him. I was wondering if he only plays his acoustic guitar now. Wasn't his Telecaster stolen? Perhaps this information is available elsewhere on the webpage, but hell if I can find it.

ramona
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USA
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Posted - 10/20/2003 :  17:42:17  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
He plays an electric guitar at shows as well, but I am not a guitar person so hell if I know what kind it is. Sorry. I am sure someone does. Someone? Oh, and his Telecaster WAS stolen, he has something else now - from the pictures I took it looks light blue or grey.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2003 :  19:00:38  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
I'm pretty sure he still just plays a Telecaster and the Takamine acoustic. Back when I saw him in 1999 he had a Fender Jaguar as well, which he only used for a song or two (Sister Isabel).


"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open."
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edward897
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80 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2003 :  19:08:31  Show Profile
Last two US tours he used the Takamine acoustic and two Telecasters. One Tele looks to be a 1972 Custom, the other is a homemade looking job. The homemade one has only a volume control and the Tele bridge pickup, no tone control or neck pickup.

Ed
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MMD
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United Kingdom
233 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2003 :  19:10:15  Show Profile
He was playing a Fender Tele. at the London Gig I guess it's a new one because if I remember currectly he used to have a copy/customised one with two humbuckers (the one that got stolen?)

Edited by - MMD on 10/20/2003 19:11:52
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Hatchetman
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United Kingdom
234 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2003 :  05:14:40  Show Profile  Visit Hatchetman's Homepage  Click to see Hatchetman's MSN Messenger address
Live, Frank plays a USA Fender Telecaster (maybe an early 60's one), a Takamine acoustic and recently a Garrison G41 acoustic. For SMYT and some live solo gigs, he used a Martin T-18 (I think) acoustic guitar. He also has a Nashville Telecaster that he used on whispering weeds (with Nashville tuning). Dave Phillips has been recently playing a Fender pink paisley Telecaster. He and Frank both play through vintage Vox amps. Rich plays a Gibson SG and Dave M plays a Fender precision bass through an Ampeg amp & cab. Scott was playing on a Yamaha drum kit.


Hatchetman
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =

USA
493 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2003 :  10:08:29  Show Profile
it's cool that they have the SG and tele sound -i forget what the descriptive is
that differentiates between a gibson sound and a fender sound -and what is the
major difference between a tele and a strat sound?
-anyone?

r
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spoon
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45 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2003 :  12:14:51  Show Profile  Visit spoon's Homepage
This is greatly simplified and truncated but will do for our purposes.

Well the differences between a Strat and Tele are small....their sounds overlap a great deal and then go on their separate ways for few variations....
Gibson and Fender sounds are very different. Though the SG was supposed to be a lighter alternative for the Les Paul, it ended up having a different enough sound (similar to the way a Tele and Strat are different/similar) that it became its own signature Gibson variant.

The major differences:
The Gibson LP and SG are small-scale heavy-wood (mohagany) solid bodied guitars with rosewood fingerboards, (ususally) humbucker pickups and glued necks for a darker meaty-er sound with great sustain.

The Fenders (Strat and Tele) are long-scale thin light-wood solid bodied guitars with bolt-on necks, (originally) maple fingerboards and (ususally) single coil pickups. A twangier thinner sound with less sustain.
Both have great signature sounds that add the needed tonal variety to the sonic pallet artists create music with.

Hope this helps,
spoon
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =

USA
493 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2003 :  12:20:27  Show Profile
yup

r
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guy_nolan
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
417 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2003 :  14:10:17  Show Profile  Click to see guy_nolan's MSN Messenger address
God bless the Takamine EN-10 acoustic. Mine sounds all the better for the Frank Black signature on it's body. BOO-YAA!

Give 1000 monkey's 1000 typewriters and you're gonna be reading bullshit for the rest of your life.
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edward897
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80 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2003 :  20:19:35  Show Profile
Did Frank draw that little alien face on your EN-10 like he did on my Telecaster?

Ed
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helpimarock
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4 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2003 :  13:43:18  Show Profile
last time i saw FB&C, Rich and Dave were playing SGs, and Frank played either a homemade tele, or a godin solidbody acoustic. i believe everyone was playing Vox amps.
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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 11/07/2003 :  14:08:20  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
i am not a guitar expert but these are the guitars and amps he used in italy:










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helpimarock
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4 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2003 :  19:22:26  Show Profile
he's got 3 amps there. two of them are vox super beatle amps. i don't know if he uses them together, or one is just for backup. either way they look cool. the other one is for his acoustic, and is an SWR.
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crippe
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Sweden
64 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2003 :  09:07:31  Show Profile  Visit crippe's Homepage
In the above pictures it looks like heīs playing a white blonde 50īs reissue Fender Telecaster. Hard to tell if itīs a USA or Mexico made one. Does anyone know why he always plays the Telecasters??
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1220 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2003 :  09:35:24  Show Profile  Visit Doog's Homepage  Click to see Doog's MSN Messenger address
Cause they sound the sh*t, dawg!

"I joined the Cult of Frank / Because I thought it would straighten out my life, SIR!"
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2003 :  12:50:00  Show Profile
Who could possibly picture Frank with an electric guitar that's not a Tele???

Not me.
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edward897
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80 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2003 :  19:57:28  Show Profile
That looks like an early 80's Telecaster. He's got better ones but why get them all banged up on tour?

Ed
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/10/2003 :  15:43:05  Show Profile  Visit Doog's Homepage  Click to see Doog's MSN Messenger address
Didnt they have a load of guitars and stuff stolen a while back? He probly lost all his nice old Teles, and 80s stuff is well priced- not old enough to be vintage, not new enough to be current and "hip".

"I joined the Cult of Frank / Because I thought it would straighten out my life, SIR!"
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spoon
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45 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2003 :  12:28:48  Show Profile  Visit spoon's Homepage
He plays the Tele's cause he likes _that_ sound (thru a vox).
With an amp setup like that, the two voxes (voxen?) are probably setup with:
1. being clean to a little twang (Sir Rockabye to Big Red)
and
2. being heavy twang to full-on distortion (Caribou/Such a Wire to So Hard To Make Things Out).

spoon
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john_farson
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2 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2003 :  12:25:46  Show Profile  Visit john_farson's Homepage
This is an link with some interesting info on Frank's old rig with the Pixies.

http://www.guitargeek.com/rigview/328/

The far left amp is his California Blonde, for acoustics. I think I heard the Vox amps were the hand-wired AC-30 variety. When he played Detroit, he had 2 of each kind.

You can't touch that sound of the tele's neck lipstick pick-up and the bridge pick-up mixed (parallel I think at the mid-toggle position). Chunky lows and the softer' almost acoustic-like string tone.
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