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Hatchetman
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
 Posted - 10/11/2003 : 20:16:34
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Just got back after a 415 mile round trip, songs played were:
1. Nadine
2. New House of the Pope
3. Massif Centrale
4. When Will Happiness Find Me Again
5. Goodbye Lorraine
6. The Snake
7. California Bound
8. How You Went So Far
9. Jane the Queen of Love
10. Velvety
11. Whiskey in Your Shoes
12. Robert Onion
13. Bullet
14. Bad Harmony
15. I Want Rock & Roll
16. I Need Peace
17. Headache
18. Freedom Rock
19. Fare Thee Well
20. Caribou
21. Cactus
22. Velouria
Performance was absolutely fantastic, BUT Frank seemed to be in a very bad mood tonight. They didn't pause between songs and he didn't speak to the crowd once, except for 'thank you goodnight'.
Frank seemed to be there under protest.
Come to think of it, he was exactly the same at the Bristol gig.
It would have been nice if he at least said a hello to the crowd, it takes very little effort to be polite. Apart from that it was a great night. I got to speak briefly with all the band members after the show and I got them all to sign a vinyl copy of SMYT that I bought at the gig. I also spoke to Joe Kidd after the gig, he's a top bloke and a great drummer.
Hatchetman
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gb199
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Posted - 10/12/2003 : 02:04:09
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| Totally agree mate, amazing performance but grumpy as hell. Had to leave to catch the last train after Freedom Rock (LOVE that song!!) but glad i didnt miss too much. Robert Onion was probably the highlight for me. |
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Hatchetman
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 04:00:30
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When Dave McCaffrey came out of the venue one fan was trying to get his autograph, but the only thing that he had on him was his credit card, so not being put off by this he handed it to Dave along with a big black marker to sign! Dave said 'I don't think your bank would be to pleased' So the bloke looked for something else instead, but he couldn't find anything suitable. Luckily I had a poster from the gig on me, so I gave to him and the day was saved!
Hatchetman
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 04:57:50
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that's a cool story hatchetman
very nice of you
I hope you had more of those posters
otherwise it was a very very nice thing to do
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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 05:24:06
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After many years of bombarding my dear wife's eardrums with FB's albums, I finally got her to come with me to see the man himself. We got a good place on the front row, and really enjoyed a great gig, despite FB's unwillingness to engage in banter.
After the show, both Rich and Dave Phillips came to the front of the stage area, and signed my poster, which I had pinched from the foyer. We hung around while the guys loaded their gear away, hoping to catch Frank when he wasn't busy, but he didn't show, and it was getting close to the time for us to get the boat back to Devil's Island, so we made our way to the exit.
Outside, by the tour bus, we came across FB signing autographs for a couple of fans. As my wife had a camera, I politely asked him if he minded posing for a photo with yours truly. To my disappointment, he chose to ignore me completely, not even bothering to look up as I spoke to him. In case his ears were still ringing from the gig, I asked him again. Once more, he just blanked me totally, and strode off without even bothering to acknowldge me at all.
Now I appreciate that he has a busy schedule, and can't hang around all night indulging people, but this was just downright fucking rude. Now my other half thinks that he's a total wanker, and after Saturday, I'm inclined to agree with her. Having met him a couple of times before, I'd previously found him quite chatty and affable; this time however, he just came across as pig-ignorant, and in dire need of a good kicking. No wonder he got dumped. Although I've been a huge fan for over fifteen years, I didn't expect any special privileges; but to get blanked like that really stung, and was really quite embarrassing.
When will happiness find him again? Perhaps when he takes his head from out of his arse, and gets some prozac down his neck.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 05:26:50
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You're mad aren't you?
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 05:30:23
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...you got it.
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frnck blck
-= The Man =-
312 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 07:19:01
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Originally posted by Devils Islander
After many years of bombarding my dear wife's eardrums with FB's albums, I finally got her to come with me to see the man himself. We got a good place on the front row, and really enjoyed a great gig, despite FB's unwillingness to engage in banter.
After the show, both Rich and Dave Phillips came to the front of the stage area, and signed my poster, which I had pinched from the foyer. We hung around while the guys loaded their gear away, hoping to catch Frank when he wasn't busy, but he didn't show, and it was getting close to the time for us to get the boat back to Devil's Island, so we made our way to the exit.
Outside, by the tour bus, we came across FB signing autographs for a couple of fans. As my wife had a camera, I politely asked him if he minded posing for a photo with yours truly. To my disappointment, he chose to ignore me completely, not even bothering to look up as I spoke to him. In case his ears were still ringing from the gig, I asked him again. Once more, he just blanked me totally, and strode off without even bothering to acknowldge me at all.
Now I appreciate that he has a busy schedule, and can't hang around all night indulging people, but this was just downright fucking rude. Now my other half thinks that he's a total wanker, and after Saturday, I'm inclined to agree with her. Having met him a couple of times before, I'd previously found him quite chatty and affable; this time however, he just came across as pig-ignorant, and in dire need of a good kicking. No wonder he got dumped. Although I've been a huge fan for over fifteen years, I didn't expect any special privileges; but to get blanked like that really stung, and was really quite embarrassing.
When will happiness find him again? Perhaps when he takes his head from out of his arse, and gets some prozac down his neck.
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are.
Ha ha! A bit sensitive are we? Well, sorry | didn't hear you...or maybe I did but I just didn't want to be accomodating. SOmetimes it's just like that. I just recovered from the flu. That gig was the hottest, stickiest one yet, and I just didn't feel that great. Plus there was so much disco action going on it made it really hard to focus on whoever was calling out to me. I show up. I do my show. I load my own gear. Sometimes I chat with the punters. SOmetimes I don't. There's no other way. That's just the way that it is. If I had a tour manager and a crew I might be more acoomodating more often, but I just can't afford it right now. I hope you enjoyed the show. I certainly tried. I certainly don't think that I or any other artist deserves "a good kicking", as you say, for not signing an autograph.
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frnck blck
-= The Man =-
312 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 07:26:36
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Originally posted by Hatchetman
Just got back after a 415 mile round trip, songs played were:
1. Nadine
2. New House of the Pope
3. Massif Centrale
4. When Will Happiness Find Me Again
5. Goodbye Lorraine
6. The Snake
7. California Bound
8. How You Went So Far
9. Jane the Queen of Love
10. Velvety
11. Whiskey in Your Shoes
12. Robert Onion
13. Bullet
14. Bad Harmony
15. I Want Rock & Roll
16. I Need Peace
17. Headache
18. Freedom Rock
19. Fare Thee Well
20. Caribou
21. Cactus
22. Velouria
Performance was absolutely fantastic, BUT Frank seemed to be in a very bad mood tonight. They didn't pause between songs and he didn't speak to the crowd once, except for 'thank you goodnight'.
Frank seemed to be there under protest.
Come to think of it, he was exactly the same at the Bristol gig.
It would have been nice if he at least said a hello to the crowd, it takes very little effort to be polite. Apart from that it was a great night. I got to speak briefly with all the band members after the show and I got them all to sign a vinyl copy of SMYT that I bought at the gig. I also spoke to Joe Kidd after the gig, he's a top bloke and a great drummer.
Hatchetman
You know I really shouldn't reply to these kind of posts, but I just can't help it. I write songs. I record them. I go on tour and I play them. That's all. I don't ask people to "put their hands together" or any other show biz crap. I can't be bothered. It seems lame to me. I like to play rock music. I don't like to chat on stage. Other people do, and that's fine. Others even do it well, but I just can't do it. I can say thanks. I can say goodnight. SOmetimes during a full moon I might get whacky and say a few words. But it just doesn't come that easy to me. I am not alone. If you think it's so easy to chat up an audience then I encourage you to give it a try. Maybe you'll be very successful. We don't like pauses between songs. Just a style thing. Good enough for the Ramones. Whatever I have to say is in the songs. Good enough for Bob Dylan.
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 07:40:07
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i've not seen a show where the chatting was going on and frankly, i don't miss it.
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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 08:32:23
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Originally posted by frnck blck
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Originally posted by Devils Islander
After many years of bombarding my dear wife's eardrums with FB's albums, I finally got her to come with me to see the man himself. We got a good place on the front row, and really enjoyed a great gig, despite FB's unwillingness to engage in banter.
After the show, both Rich and Dave Phillips came to the front of the stage area, and signed my poster, which I had pinched from the foyer. We hung around while the guys loaded their gear away, hoping to catch Frank when he wasn't busy, but he didn't show, and it was getting close to the time for us to get the boat back to Devil's Island, so we made our way to the exit.
Outside, by the tour bus, we came across FB signing autographs for a couple of fans. As my wife had a camera, I politely asked him if he minded posing for a photo with yours truly. To my disappointment, he chose to ignore me completely, not even bothering to look up as I spoke to him. In case his ears were still ringing from the gig, I asked him again. Once more, he just blanked me totally, and strode off without even bothering to acknowldge me at all.
Now I appreciate that he has a busy schedule, and can't hang around all night indulging people, but this was just downright fucking rude. Now my other half thinks that he's a total wanker, and after Saturday, I'm inclined to agree with her. Having met him a couple of times before, I'd previously found him quite chatty and affable; this time however, he just came across as pig-ignorant, and in dire need of a good kicking. No wonder he got dumped. Although I've been a huge fan for over fifteen years, I didn't expect any special privileges; but to get blanked like that really stung, and was really quite embarrassing.
When will happiness find him again? Perhaps when he takes his head from out of his arse, and gets some prozac down his neck.
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are.
Ha ha! A bit sensitive are we? Well, sorry | didn't hear you...or maybe I did but I just didn't want to be accomodating. SOmetimes it's just like that. I just recovered from the flu. That gig was the hottest, stickiest one yet, and I just didn't feel that great. Plus there was so much disco action going on it made it really hard to focus on whoever was calling out to me. I show up. I do my show. I load my own gear. Sometimes I chat with the punters. SOmetimes I don't. There's no other way. That's just the way that it is. If I had a tour manager and a crew I might be more acoomodating more often, but I just can't afford it right now. I hope you enjoyed the show. I certainly tried. I certainly don't think that I or any other artist deserves "a good kicking", as you say, for not signing an autograph.
your ignorant piggie,
frank
Thanks for taking the time out to reply to my churlish whinging; it is greatly appreciated. Mayhaps "a good kicking" would be a little extreme, and I apologise for fulminating so ferociously. I of course realise now, that you were merely trying to protect me from your nasty flu germs, and only had my best interests at heart.
Hope all goes well for the rest of the tour, and I'll see you at the Astoria on Wednesday.
Thanks again for renewing my faith in Catholicism.
Yours humbly,
Butch 
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 10:23:23
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maybe for some of us the thought of pissing someone off who's from
'Devils Island' is something best not done.
-i mean i could see playing it safe in a situation like that. he fairly
apologises yet maintains not to deserve a kicking so to be fair he was
touched in a very normal way yet for him and most in his shoes that has got to be wierd
to be in these types of situations so it is actually very cool that he stepped up.
but then again who knows what goes on over on that 'devils' island? (i mean why WOULD they call
it Devils' Island anyway?) So if you ask me i just think he doesn't want to find himself
kidnapped in the middle of the night and dragged off to some dark hideaway on D.I. and
forced to participate in some kind of mutant experimentation -(island of Dr. Moreau maybe?...)
or the subject of some strange island voodoo!
-it's always best to play it safe in some situations.
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johnc
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Posted - 10/13/2003 : 10:49:22
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Frank, it's a pretty heavy schedule again! Sounds like you need a week off in the sun! I guess the UK can be a shitty place when you're on the road, run-down and full of the lurgie!
While I'm on can I just apologies for shouting 'Charles, f***ing great show!' after the Leeds gig when you were on your mobile!
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mark t
- FB Fan -
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 11:14:20
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| to frnk: hey cuz! i just got over the flu toooo, i feel the pain! hope all's well tlk soon cuz |
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 11:23:17
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well cuz it's been such an interesting day class, lets review:
1. full moon make Franky nutty
2. frank likes the web thingy
3. devils' island baaaad! aaarrrggghhh!!
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Bluish Black
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
108 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 11:55:52
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| I think Frank is putting himself down when he says he is not any good at chatting with the crowd, I think he is very good and he also comes over as genuine which is a rare feat in itself. However as he says he has other priorities: writing the songs, playing the music, getting the equipment packed etc. I think his replies on this thread show what a genuine guy he is. The fans should just give him the space to do what he does best and stop bleating about him ignoring us when he has got better things to do. |
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Hatchetman
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2003 : 16:54:48
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quote:
Originally posted by frnck blck
quote:
Originally posted by Hatchetman
Just got back after a 415 mile round trip, songs played were:
1. Nadine
2. New House of the Pope
3. Massif Centrale
4. When Will Happiness Find Me Again
5. Goodbye Lorraine
6. The Snake
7. California Bound
8. How You Went So Far
9. Jane the Queen of Love
10. Velvety
11. Whiskey in Your Shoes
12. Robert Onion
13. Bullet
14. Bad Harmony
15. I Want Rock & Roll
16. I Need Peace
17. Headache
18. Freedom Rock
19. Fare Thee Well
20. Caribou
21. Cactus
22. Velouria
Performance was absolutely fantastic, BUT Frank seemed to be in a very bad mood tonight. They didn't pause between songs and he didn't speak to the crowd once, except for 'thank you goodnight'.
Frank seemed to be there under protest.
Come to think of it, he was exactly the same at the Bristol gig.
It would have been nice if he at least said a hello to the crowd, it takes very little effort to be polite. Apart from that it was a great night. I got to speak briefly with all the band members after the show and I got them all to sign a vinyl copy of SMYT that I bought at the gig. I also spoke to Joe Kidd after the gig, he's a top bloke and a great drummer.
Hatchetman
You know I really shouldn't reply to these kind of posts, but I just can't help it. I write songs. I record them. I go on tour and I play them. That's all. I don't ask people to "put their hands together" or any other show biz crap. I can't be bothered. It seems lame to me. I like to play rock music. I don't like to chat on stage. Other people do, and that's fine. Others even do it well, but I just can't do it. I can say thanks. I can say goodnight. SOmetimes during a full moon I might get whacky and say a few words. But it just doesn't come that easy to me. I am not alone. If you think it's so easy to chat up an audience then I encourage you to give it a try. Maybe you'll be very successful. We don't like pauses between songs. Just a style thing. Good enough for the Ramones. Whatever I have to say is in the songs. Good enough for Bob Dylan.
FB
Frank, don't get me wrong, If you read my post, I never said that you should chat up the audience, far from it, just a simple 'Hi' would do. If you think that's too much to ask for, then fine, that's your prerogative.
I just don't see it that way.
I also dislike chatting to the audience when I play live, so I don't. But I do say hello, thank you, and goodnight. That's all that I'm saying.
If everyone had the "I turn up, do my job, and don't expect me to be polite while I do it" attitude when they worked, the world would be a dreary place. Whether you're a rock musician or a checkout operator at a supermarket the same rule applies.
People have bad days, I know and I don't think that you HAVE to sign things for people, or engage them in chat when you don't want to.
And god knows I would have little patience with drunk loud fans expecting me to do something that I wasn't in the mood to do.
But I'm always polite when I tell people to fuck off!
Especially if I was aware that the majority of them idolise me.
As I said, the gig was fantastic and I got the impression that you wanted to play a few more songs at the end, but you snapped a string. That was a shame. I am looking forward to seeing you at the Astoria. And once again, thank you for signing my vinyl copy of SMYT and not telling me to shove it up my arse! (I did ask quite timidly)
BTW My kids enjoyed the show in Bristol. FB&TC's were the first live band that have ever seen. How cool are they? They were singing along quite happily behind the bar that the manager very kindly let us stand behind to watch the gig.
Hatchetman
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/13/2003 : 18:58:23
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I'm with you Frank. Some of us out here do respect a distance between the musicians and the audience.
And the best FB & the C's shows I've seen have been the ones where you didn't say anything at all beyond intro'ing the band. It puts forth a mystique that I like.
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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2003 : 04:32:37
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With regard to consternation on this and other threads, concerning the post gig approachability (or lack thereof) of the glorious leader; I think that I may have a solution.
In order to prevent further misunderstanding twixt our favourite non-dancing bear and his devoted followers, I have come up with the idea of mood apparel. It could possibly work like this:
After a gig, should FB be feeling particularly gregarious, he could signal this to his followers by wearing a lime green lycra catsuit, as a clear indication that autographs, photos, small talk etc, are temporarily available. On the other hand, if kids in the audience have been pelting him with peanuts and hollering for "Debaser" all night, maybe he could demonstrate his consequent displeasure by wearing a pair of bright red oven mitts; the absence of fingers clearly showing his unwillingness to sign all that is shoved under his nose.
This idea is of course still in its embryonic stage; but with a bit of work...who knows?
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2003 : 08:27:47
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something i've been thinking about: evryone who posts here gets a black t-shirt
with their screen name emblazened in white across the front -standard is to wear it
at gigs. a few people can pass a nice large size T with 'frnkblck' on it over to you know who
(so he has a change) and maybe he wears it sometimes and when he does he is implying that
he is in an overly approachable mode that night -since he is curious enough to hop on and read within this forum he would eventually recognize names on the shirts.
from there who knows...kinda silly but it could be a fun phenomenon.
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 12:21:21
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Why does he need to say 'hi'? Are people really so insecure that they need this greeting? It isn't enough that he's come to your city and rawkin' your socks?
Sure, it's more 'friendly', but is he there to be friendly? Can't the man just be himself?
I personally favor the endless babble of musicians on stage, but i can also appreciate those who would rather not banter. And i make an effort to not take it personally either. |
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green_will
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 16:15:48
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I wasn't at the gig, but...
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 17:17:58
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The only reason I love the banter is because of the immense amount of respect I have for Mr. Black and, probably because it doesn't happen that often. I listen to the Slims concert where he's joking around a bit with the audience and Eric, and think, "that would be great to be there when he's chatting". Why? I have no idea. 'cause deep down, we all want to be respected by those we respect, I suppose. Like when he mentions FB.Net, or the tribute album (even though he has yet to spin it), y'know, that makes me feel good. I like it, as Dave says, but I don't need it, I don't expect it, and I sure as hell am not angry if it's not there. Seeing Frank march on stage with his group and launch right into Gouge Away in my home town was more of a greeting than I could've asked for.
I asked for an autograph at a show once in Portland. I waited until he was done cleanup even though other fans couldn't and got in there and pestered him until he had no choice but to do it or endure many more moments of it. Even though he had been narrowly missed by a glass of some sort. By the time he was done and I went up, he was not in the mood and I was more or less ignored. But so what? I did the same thing again the next night, he signed it, and we even got photos with him and Eric (who was EXTREMELY friendly, by the way). Which he then signed at a subsequent gig here in Saskatoon.
The point is that you have to have respect and understanding if you expect it in return. Let the guy do his work, and if he can, I'm sure he'll get you an autograph/smile. If he can't, well, we know how hard the man works. Cut 'em some slack and, as Dave says, don't take it personally.
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johnc
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 10/15/2003 : 01:21:26
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JUST PLAY THE SONGS FRANK!! I DON'T GO TO A GIG TO LISTEN TO IDLE BANTER!!! 
Having said that I saw Cinerama last week at Newcastle Uni and David Gedge can't shut up! They were excellent and played several Wedding Present songs! I had 5 mins chat with David Gedge himself - he admitted to seeing FB at Sheffield Leadmill before and also asked if Frank was playing any Pixies! There's a Live in Belfast CD out that they are flogging ar gigs for about £6 and it's well worth a listen.
Buzzcocks and the Damned are playing Newcastle Uni. in December. Should be a laugh!
FB&The Catholics have restored my faith in live music as before Edinburgh's gig I hadn't seen a live band for years!
THANKS FRANK & THE CATHOLICS!!
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2003 : 02:59:58
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I would feel really stupid approaching an artist I liked, or even one I didn't like.
I mean, what do you say?
It's not just a fear of getting snubbed but that anything you say they have heard already about a million times before.
I saw sebadoh play at a tiny club yesterday and Lou Barlow walked straight past me about 4 times. I was absolutly star struck having worshipped him since I was 13 (i'm now 23)but I just couldn't bring myself to approach him, because lets face it, he doesn't know me and would probably prefer to be left alone.
Hey Frank, if you play solid gold tonight I promise not to bug you afterwards.
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csmall09
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 10/15/2003 : 03:21:40
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I was at that gig yesterday... great stuff! No Brand New Love though!
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Hatchetman
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2003 : 03:47:53
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Originally posted by Dave Noisy
Why does he need to say 'hi'? Are people really so insecure that they need this greeting? It isn't enough that he's come to your city and rawkin' your socks?
Sure, it's more 'friendly', but is he there to be friendly? Can't the man just be himself?
I personally favor the endless babble of musicians on stage, but i can also appreciate those who would rather not banter. And i make an effort to not take it personally either.
It's nothing to do with insecurity! I suppose at the end of the day it's about customer service.
I simply like to see a performer that looks like he WANTS to be there. The catholics certainly looked like they wanted to be there.
It's not something that I 'need' to have to enjoy the great performance that he gave, but nevertheless it always enhances the whole experience for me. I'm sure there are plenty of people that would agree with me on that.
I only mentioned this because the majority of the times that I have seen the band FB didn't act like he did in Portsmouth, so it came as a surprise to me that he didn't say anything to the crowd and totally blank people after the gig. I therefore assumed (maybe wrongly) he was in a bad mood. It was just my observation.
I do know that he is not a fucking dancing bear, but it said that he was on the ticket.
Fucking dancing bear could be his Sioux name.
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Hatchetman
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/15/2003 : 03:56:14
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Originally posted by gracie
I would feel really stupid approaching an artist I liked, or even one I didn't like.
I mean, what do you say?
It's not just a fear of getting snubbed but that anything you say they have heard already about a million times before.
I saw sebadoh play at a tiny club yesterday and Lou Barlow walked straight past me about 4 times. I was absolutly star struck having worshipped him since I was 13 (i'm now 23)but I just couldn't bring myself to approach him, because lets face it, he doesn't know me and would probably prefer to be left alone.
I know what you mean. Frank walked passed me in the street a few times in Portsmouth. He was looking for a place to eat in. I didn't say anything to him 'cos I thought it would be intrusive. It's a strange experience when you see THE Frank Black walking toward you on the street.
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Foucaults Dog
- FB Fan -
Ireland
124 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2003 : 07:27:27
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Whats with the obsession with chat.
I'm sorry people, don't mean to offend, but get a life. |
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frnck blck
-= The Man =-
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Posted - 10/16/2003 : 03:51:41
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Originally posted by Devils Islander
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Originally posted by frnck blck
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Originally posted by Devils Islander
After many years of bombarding my dear wife's eardrums with FB's albums, I finally got her to come with me to see the man himself. We got a good place on the front row, and really enjoyed a great gig, despite FB's unwillingness to engage in banter.
After the show, both Rich and Dave Phillips came to the front of the stage area, and signed my poster, which I had pinched from the foyer. We hung around while the guys loaded their gear away, hoping to catch Frank when he wasn't busy, but he didn't show, and it was getting close to the time for us to get the boat back to Devil's Island, so we made our way to the exit.
Outside, by the tour bus, we came across FB signing autographs for a couple of fans. As my wife had a camera, I politely asked him if he minded posing for a photo with yours truly. To my disappointment, he chose to ignore me completely, not even bothering to look up as I spoke to him. In case his ears were still ringing from the gig, I asked him again. Once more, he just blanked me totally, and strode off without even bothering to acknowldge me at all.
Now I appreciate that he has a busy schedule, and can't hang around all night indulging people, but this was just downright fucking rude. Now my other half thinks that he's a total wanker, and after Saturday, I'm inclined to agree with her. Having met him a couple of times before, I'd previously found him quite chatty and affable; this time however, he just came across as pig-ignorant, and in dire need of a good kicking. No wonder he got dumped. Although I've been a huge fan for over fifteen years, I didn't expect any special privileges; but to get blanked like that really stung, and was really quite embarrassing.
When will happiness find him again? Perhaps when he takes his head from out of his arse, and gets some prozac down his neck.
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are.
Ha ha! A bit sensitive are we? Well, sorry | didn't hear you...or maybe I did but I just didn't want to be accomodating. SOmetimes it's just like that. I just recovered from the flu. That gig was the hottest, stickiest one yet, and I just didn't feel that great. Plus there was so much disco action going on it made it really hard to focus on whoever was calling out to me. I show up. I do my show. I load my own gear. Sometimes I chat with the punters. SOmetimes I don't. There's no other way. That's just the way that it is. If I had a tour manager and a crew I might be more acoomodating more often, but I just can't afford it right now. I hope you enjoyed the show. I certainly tried. I certainly don't think that I or any other artist deserves "a good kicking", as you say, for not signing an autograph.
your ignorant piggie,
frank
Thanks for taking the time out to reply to my churlish whinging; it is greatly appreciated. Mayhaps "a good kicking" would be a little extreme, and I apologise for fulminating so ferociously. I of course realise now, that you were merely trying to protect me from your nasty flu germs, and only had my best interests at heart.
Hope all goes well for the rest of the tour, and I'll see you at the Astoria on Wednesday.
Thanks again for renewing my faith in Catholicism.
Yours humbly,
Butch
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are.
Thanks. Peace. |
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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2003 : 04:44:46
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Back at ya Charles.
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are. |
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <
3648 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2003 : 08:39:36
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This is so funny. Better be careful what you write on here now, aye? You never know who may be looking.
I love our Frank Black. It cracks me up when he puts people back in their place.
Sorry my laughs come at your expense, I could never insult the man like you did though.
But it's okay, just tell him you were drunk when you wrote that : )
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ain't it funny how the goes |
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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2003 : 11:20:52
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Div
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are. |
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Purrsia
- FB Fan -
USA
27 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2003 : 09:32:04
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Well, I haven't seen one of Frank's shows in years (I got married, had a kid, yadda yadda - haven't had the time or money to get out much), but I don't remember from the shows I have seen that he was ever particularly chatty. In fact, a lot of the people I like that are the same caliber as Frank (Bob Mould, for instance), aren't the the most chatorific. Personally, I've never cared. Take this for an ass-kissing, boot-licking remark if you want to, but it was always enough of a rush for me to see one of my favorites play live and usually in such a small venue you could damn near reach out and touch 'em. That was more than enough of an intimate atmosphere for me.
As for getting a chance to approach them after the show and being rebuffed, such is life. At the expense of more boot-licking, I've always given performers the benefit of the doubt. They're people. They have good days and bad. Sometimes, as Frank pointed out, I imagine they don't feel like socializing after a show. I kind of got rebuffed similarly by the aformentioned Bob Mould after a show once. Yeah, it stung. I'm shy and it took a lot of nerve for me to even try to approach him. But I didn't blame him - you know, it was just one of those things. And wouldn't you know it? the next time he toured, he held an autograph session after the show and not only did I get my fave album signed by the man, but we had a nice if brief chat. He's a nice guy. And he's just human. Sometimes I think we set our expectations so high on these performers, we overreact when things don't happen quite how we imaged a great moment like meeting our favorite musician should. Getting perspective helps.
Personally, I think guys like Bob and Frank handle the demand others have on their time and energy rather well. I don't think I could do it myself - so many strangers wanting a little piece of you; it could easily be maddening. My hat's off to all those performers who keep making great music, entertaining us with live shows, and occassionally, giving us an extra rush by meeting with the fans.
Now I must go and wash all this shoe polish off my tongue. Yech.
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Old Neptuna
- FB Fan -
Ireland
200 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2003 : 07:32:12
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I say - save the chat till the MTV2 interviews and lets have the music at the gigs - in the interests of more tunes per square inch! A simple wave at the start and finish will suffice.
 "Frighten them on the dance floor!" |
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Old Neptuna
- FB Fan -
Ireland
200 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2003 : 07:35:47
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Oh, incidentally - Frank did a monologue at the Dublin Tower Records set - something about a haunted venue and hotel? What was that story again Frank - if you're still connected?
Tuna
"Flatten them on the dance floor!" |
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