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PearlJamaholic
- FB Fan -
USA
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 Posted - 10/07/2003 : 04:49:23
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We know that Weezer covered Velouria. Since I've been going through a Weezer phase I took a look at The Lion and The Witch cover. Something Stood out on it, well it was coming towards me.
What does this Cat mean? Two album covers it must be more then a cool statue than again maybe not. |
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
632 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2003 : 07:05:32
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crikey, i see what you mean. very similar to SMYT. a strange coincidence ?
They are about, dressed to deceive, architect David Vincent |
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2003 : 09:03:22
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Spend five minutes in any Chinatown in any metropolitan area and you will see at least a hundred of these glazed pottery kitties in nearly every store window on every block. They are to Chinatown what miniature Statue of Liberty's are to Times Square.
 "Join the Cult of Clootie / and you'll get more booty!" www.mp3.com/clootie |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2003 : 09:20:55
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| Wow, that is weird. I never got that damn Lion and the Witch ep; probably not worth it though. How many Weezer/Frank ties are there? I know he just said he liked Weezer's cover in an MTV2 interview. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6118 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2003 : 11:21:19
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weezer was heavy influenced by the pixies
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2003 : 11:45:39
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| I have seen a gold FB cat and it was suppose to be a good luck charm, i don't know if the white one's are though. |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2003 : 11:53:17
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didn't rivers cuomo say he studied nirvana songs intensely?
 doo doo doo... |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6118 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2003 : 14:03:03
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yes he did
but cuomo also says he frequently visits whores when he's on tour
and that is AR man (or whatever they are called) chooses the songs that go on the weezer records, because he doesn't care.
he's a sick man
but I love him
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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Kozaru
- FB Fan -
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2003 : 23:03:51
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quote:
Originally posted by PearlJamaholic
We know that Weezer covered Velouria. Since I've been going through a Weezer phase I took a look at The Lion and The Witch cover. Something Stood out on it, well it was coming towards me.
What does this Cat mean? Two album covers it must be more then a cool statue than again maybe not.
It's called a "Maneki neko". It welcomes good fortune and money. The first yellow banner on the left of the CD cover says, "Lion and Witch" in Japanese. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6118 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 02:53:04
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I think FB's cat is prettier
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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Kingmob999
- FB Fan -
57 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 04:50:28
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weezer sucks. (after pinkerton)
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PearlJamaholic
- FB Fan -
USA
73 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 05:43:19
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| Rivers has writen some good stuff since Pinkerton. Maybe hasnt released it. Check out Queen of Earth thats a great song. Then again its all good as far as im concerned. And Kozaru thanks for the info. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 08:06:17
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I thought the green album sucked hard except for the 2 singles, but Maladroit was definitely a good album.
 "I joined the Cult of Frank / Did anyone else have to give up their first born?" |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 08:24:36
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| I think Rivers Cuomo is actually trying to create the image that he's fucked up, I think he's dying to be a rock n roll eccentric. I mean, he claims to write so many songs, but he never backs this up (GBV anyone?). However, once could argue that the fact he wants to appeared fucked up makes him fucked up. "People pride themselves on their diseases"--Dostoevsky |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6118 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 09:00:45
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well itchload
he does write many songs
there are lot's of mp3 for album 4 and scrapped demo's for album 5
there were like 13 tracks on maladroit, but there were certainly
40 songs that they demoed that year
although he's not robert pollard
he writes much
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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FranknWeezer
= Cult of Ray =
USA
356 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 09:21:55
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I like the Weez. Wish they would get their shit together and stop listening to the fans, though.
BTW, I wish I could link the thread I started here the day the SMYT art was released...I pointed out that it used the kitty from "The Lion and the Witch." Search link isn't working for me though.
So send me all your royalties for the props you got on this thread;)
-FranknWeezer |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 09:23:27
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I agree, I think the blue album was the best (yes even better than Pinkerton.) |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6118 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 09:53:01
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I have high hopes for album 5
green wasn't my cup of tea (fuck punkpop)
but maladroit was alright actually
this album 5 seems to be very personal according to Rick Rubin
so I'm hoping for another pinkerton
maybe even an acoustic one (their site is filled with mysterious photos of weezer playing acoustic)
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 10:12:11
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Originally posted by Brackish Girl
didn't rivers cuomo say he studied nirvana songs intensely?
doo doo doo...
weezer and nirvana both had demo cuts on an early geffen compilation
(weezers was a rare live cut and nirvanas was an alternate 'pay to play')although i think 'bleach' was out so i don't know i had the impression that they kind of came up and around at the same time.
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 11:16:21
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Weezer's song was "Jamie." Cool song.
I'm thinking album 5 will be really good because they aren't rushing it like they did with Maladroit. And I definitely agree that Rivers shouldn't listen to the fans (especially emo kids). For Maladroit it seems like they released the demos and the fans practically voted on which would make the album.
 "I joined the Incredible Cult of Frank / Then I got pissed and turned green" |
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =
USA
2677 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 11:50:24
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I just haven't been able to get into anything since Pinkerton.
Rivers is a truly weird dude. I had a socially awkward backstage interaction with him once. He came up to me and said, "Hey, weren't you our waitress earlier today?" "Um, no." "Are you sure?" "Yep. Not a waitress." Then he calls someone else over to confirm for him and seems truly baffled. The other person is like, "Nope, not her." He says, "Oh. . ." "Sorry. I guess I must just have that service industry look about me." He continued to look perplexed and I finally backed away. 10-to-1 that guy has Asperger's syndrome.
It was an awesome show, though.
"I joined the Cult of Frank / And all I got was this lousy icon" |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6118 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 12:40:56
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that's a great story mereubu
I would love to meet him or even see him play
I've seen almost all my heroes: FB, Robert Pollard, Kristin Hersh, Kim Deal, Nada Surf (not a person exactly, and I will see Brian Wilson next year (SMILE EVERYBODY!) and Lou Barlow this month. Rivers Cuomo sticks out as a sore thumb....
I missed their last dutch concert because I had to study. DANG!
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 12:52:41
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never EVER miss a concert to study....
buenos tardes amigos... |
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 14:29:09
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About the Rivers studying Nirvana...
Yeah, he has broken down all of the songs that Nirvana and Oasis did. He's "trying to find their formula" so he can create the "perfect rock song". haha. He sure is one fucked up guy, though. Pat rocks, though. You can't deny it.
I don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die. |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 14:49:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Itchload
I think Rivers Cuomo is actually trying to create the image that he's fucked up, I think he's dying to be a rock n roll eccentric. I mean, he claims to write so many songs, but he never backs this up (GBV anyone?). However, once could argue that the fact he wants to appeared fucked up makes him fucked up. "People pride themselves on their diseases"--Dostoevsky
Itchload, you're right on with that. I can't tell you how many times I've used the same argument. He's also just an asshole. He called me an assmunch on his private message board just before I was blocked. He was threatening to stop playing anything off the Blue album when he'd already done away with Pinkerton. Now I understand that a particular song could be too painful to play but you can't deny the fans all the songs you practically begged them to love, they did love and wich helped made you famous.
It's different w/ Frank. I don't expect him to play any Pixies; it's a different band and that's that but if Frank all of a sudden refused to play any of the material on his other records I'd say he was a shmuck too.
Semper ubi sub ubi. |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 15:27:25
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i just sold the blue album to my friend.
i really need money. anyone wanna send me some?
doo doo doo... |
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 15:37:42
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Well actually he did start to bring Pinkerton songs back onto the setlist. The album that started this thread has live versions of "El Scorcho" and "Falling for You" (maybe others off Pinkerton). I guess I never complain because after they released Pinkerton I saw them live (in 1996) and they played every song off it.
And can you really say Rivers is an asshole? If you haven't sat down and had a cup of tea with him, I don't think you have much validation in your argument. He might be a little weird, but if it makes his music better that's fine with me (as long as album 5 is better than the last 2 albums).
"I joined the Incredible Cult of Frank / Then I got pissed and turned green" |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 17:07:54
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It doesn't make his music better and yes I am qualified to say he's an asshole. I was in correspondence with him for a while along with other fans. He and all the people who ran that board were jerks. I state this with absolute confidence in its validity. Go ahead, visit the boards and try to get the password. See how far you get and if you do manage to get it you'll soon see what I mean. I don't care that he eventually brought some songs back, the fact is he shit all over everyone for a really long time - him and the entire band.
Semper ubi sub ubi. |
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 17:52:22
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Ok, so you can call him an asshole.
So what is this password? Is it like a secret part of the board where certain people can talk with Weezer members? I never joined that message board. It seems stupid.
"I joined the Incredible Cult of Frank / Then I got pissed and turned green" |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 18:20:26
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I saw them twice before the Green Album came out. Good show, but each show was the exact same, and the songs were basically the same as the album versions. They played most of the Blue album, two Pinkerton songs, and a coupla new ones.
Pinkerton is my favorite Weezer album. I think deep down Rivers believes it to be their best, and again, it's just a front when he calls it "sick" in interviews. I mean, here's a guy influenced by the Pixies. The lyrics/production on Pinkerton, while very sex/obsession oriented, are not nearly as twisted as the album Surfer Rosa. I mean, there's a difference between liking Japanese girls and having a child with your sister, who in turn, becomes your favorite lover. I know there was band tension at the time as well, with the lack of clever videos and the bassist leaving, so it might leave a bad taste in his mouth, but when he calls it a failure, you know he's just doing it so his fans will be like "no Rivers! You don't understand, it's brilliant...oh why doesn't Rivers realize what the genius he truly is!" I got ya number Rivers!! |
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marcusb
= Cult of Ray =
USA
308 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 21:06:09
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 21:23:20
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ProverbialC, I don't remember the password - I'm actually not sure if there was a password or if you were just granted access - no wait there WAS a password for some time. Luckily I tore myself away from those boards. They are, indeed, stupid and I don't recommend joining them. They're all elistist pr^$#s. There are two boards, the official website one and the ezboard fan created one. The Rivers Correspondence board was through the ezboards. The website one is mostly for new, green album loving peeps.
Semper ubi sub ubi. |
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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =
USA
936 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 21:43:26
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I have nothing to back it up but there are just certain frontment that have always came off as being complete dicks to me. Rivers and Billy Corgan are at the top of the list. Just the impression I get from them.
"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
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PearlJamaholic
- FB Fan -
USA
73 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2003 : 23:29:07
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| if your talking about riverscuomo.com its been down for a long time now and you really didnt need a password. all it was was a history like thing. When he had is first guitar lesson and pointless stuff. Then every once in awhile he would release a home demo on it which you good get from just about any weezer fan site. It seemed like a thing that long time fans of weezer could wave over the newbies heads. And it worked because they really didnt know what was it. I believe Rivers is a good guy call him a asshole or whatever but name a band that makes a album the fans wanted. He even took us step by step through the process of the songs. Even if most Weezer fans dont like the album it was neat when it was happening.You'd wake up go to the site karl would post few songs that they worked on the day before. Rivers does listen to the fans which i think is cool maybe doesnt do every thing they say but still listens. When i saw them in philly after the green album they played Tired of Sex off Pinkerton. The only Pinkerton song they played for awhile. Then with enough fans complaining by the time i saw them in camden They played 5 songs from Pinkerton. Not to really turn the table around but i was at the breeders board and someone said that Frank doesnt do autographs. I dont know if this is true but as you can see just about anybody can be a asshole in someones eyes even if aint true. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6118 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2003 : 00:29:04
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on the last tour he used a dungeon and dragens cube or something
to see which songs they were gonna play
every night another setlist
I think that was cool
He seems to be cool with Pinkerton nowadays
He really should ditch the green album
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2003 : 08:29:23
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Did someone already say what the cat means?
Because yesterday I was at Edo orderin up some Sukiyaki beef and lo and behold they have the cat statue. So I asked the guy what does it mean and he said...... |
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