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Valhalla
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Germany
80 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  12:25:59  Show Profile
I like the country-influenced songs by Frank Black, like
"My favourite kiss", "This Old Heartache", "Coastline",
"Chip Away Boy" and "Jet Black River". I wonder what
kind of music style these songs are exactly. Nowadays
almost every kind of music has its own category, e.g.
"Piedmont Blues" or "Country-Folk". I think this music
can not be called country, but also not Rock n' Roll.
Is it "Alternative Country" ? What do you think ?

spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =

USA
377 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  12:57:23  Show Profile  Click to see spunXtain's MSN Messenger address
my "local" (70 miles away) indie music shop where i buy all my frank releases have an "Alternative country" section. I haven't ever looked there, but Frank Black and the C's aren't listed under "ROCK" there. I really dont know where the older albums are filed, because I buy them all while they are still on the "NEW RELEASES" wall. Next time i'll check .. lol.

Got coffee, got donuts, got wasted..
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  21:48:49  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
I wouldn't call "This Old Heartache" a country song...I wouldn't really call any of them country...the most country they get on the new album would be, in my opinion, Horrible Day...but I'd still classify that more as honkey tonk than country. If anything, it would be alt country, but there's still a big chunk of country missing (i.e. his vocal style is nowhere near it)...it's a more R&B, rockabilly, honkey tonk kinda sound.


"I joined the Cult of Frank / Did anyone else have to give up their first born?"
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2003 :  12:26:13  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Goodbye Lorraine is probably my vote for most straight up country. But the rest, I agree, I wouldn't classify as country (at least not in the strictest sense).


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
633 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2003 :  13:22:29  Show Profile
When I hear Frank Black without his band, I can only classify it under songwriter/composer. The same category John Lennon and the guy from Oingo Boingo. You see this when you attempt to analyze the music and tab.

It seems like the rest of the band members turn the music into the country-folk sound, al though I'm sure Frank had a general idea what the music should sound like.

I'm also thinking Frank's sound is pliable: Frank + influences of new bass player + influences of drummer + influences of additional members = new sound. It’s not a bad thing. It’s a great way to explore the limitless depths of music.




-Kirk
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2003 :  18:05:00  Show Profile
Danny Elfman is the lead guy from Oingo Boingo.
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =

USA
493 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2003 :  11:31:57  Show Profile
'americana': just likt alt. country or trip hop or intelligent dance music
or electro (black letter days might be called 'country blues', i think it's a sadder LP
than the new one)a lot of these are made up to quantify a trend.
hell, some places just put frank & co. in the old pixies slots..

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Edited by - blarg007 on 10/06/2003 11:32:53
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =

USA
493 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2003 :  11:34:59  Show Profile
people like danny elfman are probably why frank moved to portland.

hairy pared chives

Edited by - blarg007 on 10/06/2003 11:35:50
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crippe
- FB Fan -

Sweden
64 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2003 :  16:13:49  Show Profile  Visit crippe's Homepage
Does it matter? Labels suck.
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2003 :  12:11:11  Show Profile
i like the way their(fb&cs) pedal steel guitar is more sprightly than the usual country drawly sound it brings.
and anyways, a lot of 'indie' bands use pedal steel nowadays.


doo doo doo...
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2003 :  01:36:11  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage
A couple of weeks ago the music mag I read gave a review of SMYT, a pretty bad one, saying basically "it sucks, you can almost hear Frank's cowboy boots on Goodbye Lorraine", and then on the next page there was a long article mourning the death of Johnny Cash. I mean, what's the difference between Cash playing country music and Frank playing it? That's stupid.


Denis

"In the Cult of Frank/You don't even get backstage passes"
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2003 :  02:50:47  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
Johnny Cash didn't used to be in the pixies

People can't accept that their Indie-rock hero
shifts his music style

Well screw them

''it's not a box, it's a submarine''
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
633 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2003 :  08:54:28  Show Profile
This new album is definitely influenced by something stronger than Frank Black himself. The previous albums are full of beats grouped in sixes, stranger chord progressions, and explore the uncharted territory. I call it the Frank Black style; the original thing that attracted me to the Pixies and the first sounds of Frank Black.

Show Me Your Tears is friendlier, but that’s okay with me. I don’t mind if he takes certain styles for a test drive. It’s fun to look back on artist’s music career, seeing the paths from point A to point B to point C.

I still think the album should have been called “Show Me You’r(e) Nuts.”





-Kirk
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2003 :  12:20:52  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

Johnny Cash didn't used to be in the pixies



I bet he would have done a kickass, mournful rendition of Caribou, but he couldn't pull off something like Crackity Jones.
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2003 :  14:18:39  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage
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