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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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 Posted - 09/14/2003 : 18:00:20
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I have been a Pixies fan for years, and have just recently gotten interested in Frank Black's solo career. I own "Teenager of the Year" and really love it. I'm curious what other great CDs he has made, and where to go next. Thanks.
"How many stars girls, can you both count, and then classify?" |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2003 : 18:08:56
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| If you love Teenager of the Year and Trompe Le Monde, you're pretty much guaranteed to love Frank Black , his orange solo debut album. After that, you might want to dip into his Catholics output. If you want straightforward-garage rock type stuff, go for the first two Catholics albums, his new stuff is more Stonesy and in general more complex, with lots of intruments on each track and whatnot. In general his 3 most popular solo albums seem to be Frank Black, Teenager of the Year, and Dog in the Sand. The new one, Show Me Your Tears, is pretty great as well. |
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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1158 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2003 : 18:11:09
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Thanks for the help.
"How many stars girls, can you both count, and then classify?" |
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TOTIPOTENT
- Master of Differentiation -
USA
247 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 01:00:55
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Originally posted by Sir Rockabye
"How many stars girls, can you both count, and then classify?"
These lines have always confused me. I do not have any lyrics in front of me, but isn't it 'How may stars girl/ can you both count/ and then classify' (girl not girls)? If so, does that make sense to go from singular to plural? Also, it being a lullaby, wouldn't he be singing to just one individual? blah-blah, blah-blah-blah.
 "I joined the Cult of Frank / 'Cause Dean needs a military" |
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noexx
= Cult of Ray =
361 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 01:18:34
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| i never thought the stones were complex |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6197 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 06:34:12
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How many stars girl can you both count and then classify
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 06:47:31
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Sir Rockabye, I hope you find FB's solo stuff as good if not better than the Pixies..... All his albums are worth getting (I was always gonna say this being on a FB website).
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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carsonwerner
= Cult of Ray =
USA
254 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 08:07:13
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| I believe he's saying how many stars can you both count AND classify, like being able to perfom those two actions. |
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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1158 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 13:38:17
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Yup, looks like you were right. I must have typed girls while thinking "girl". Thanks for pointing out the error. Now I can post without looking like an idiot. (Or at least try)
"How many stars girl, can you both count, and then classify?" |
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 13:51:22
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| "The Black Sessions: Live in Paris plus the Kitchen Tapes" is generally regarded as his weakest album, though some do not consider it an album. |
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noexx
= Cult of Ray =
361 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 13:52:12
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| it's just a live show...definitely not an album. |
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franktaper
- FB Fan -
USA
158 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 14:01:36
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Originally posted by noexx
it's just a live show...definitely not an album.
So, it's an official release, but not an album |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 20:03:37
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God FUCKING damnit, I've explained this before. Do you people bring this shit up just to piss me off, or just to sound obscure and cool by naming an album that you THINK is an album off the cuff that not a lot of people have heard of? The Black Sessions, while it is an ALBUM in the general sense, released by 4AD, is not part of FB's discography. It is classified as a compilation. Official live discs are classified as compilations and do not count towards the artists discography. So it is an official release, but is not an album in the "LP album" sense.
 "I joined the Cult of Frank / But I don't post every 5 fucking minutes" |
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noexx
= Cult of Ray =
361 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 20:12:52
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thanks el barto....i tried to tell 'em.
the black sessions has songs from previous releases, only they're live versions of them as it is a live show that was recorded. that in no way makes an official "album" though it was a release that was very limited by a record company. most albums that count are studio recorded and have different songs than the releases before.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 21:22:53
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Whoa, Jim, simmer.
 "Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 00:38:27
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Fuck me COF, you've hit 2000! Congrats!
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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Foucaults Dog
- FB Fan -
Ireland
124 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 05:20:06
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Originally posted by noexx
thanks el barto....i tried to tell 'em.
the black sessions has songs from previous releases, only they're live versions of them as it is a live show that was recorded. that in no way makes an official "album" though it was a release that was very limited by a record company. most albums that count are studio recorded and have different songs than the releases before.
Just Listen to yourself... You sir are a disgrace! I think it's raining, do you possess the proper atire? But of course you are! |
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deadlydoctor
- FB Fan -
USA
56 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 07:30:45
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Originally posted by El Barto
God FUCKING damnit, I've explained this before. Do you people bring this shit up just to piss me off, or just to sound obscure and cool by naming an album that you THINK is an album off the cuff that not a lot of people have heard of? The Black Sessions, while it is an ALBUM in the general sense, released by 4AD, is not part of FB's discography. It is classified as a compilation. Official live discs are classified as compilations and do not count towards the artists discography. So it is an official release, but is not an album in the "LP album" sense.
Well then... Is the John Peel Session CD an EP, or a "compilation"? 
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 07:39:05
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Originally posted by Stuart
Fuck me COF, you've hit 2000! Congrats!
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?
Thanks, Mr. Stu. I was hoping I'd get an extra kitty for my troubles, but... <sigh>. :)
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 10:27:34
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Well then... Is the John Peel Session CD an EP, or a "compilation"?
It's a compilation. An EP is a mini album, less than 30 (or 20 minutes?) and not a lot of songs.
"I joined the Cult of Frank / And uh...the swimmer sucks dick for busfair" |
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franktaper
- FB Fan -
USA
158 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 10:44:43
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[quote]Originally posted by El Barto
God FUCKING damnit, I've explained this before. Do you people bring this shit up just to piss me off, or just to sound obscure and cool by naming an album that you THINK is an album off the cuff that not a lot of people have heard of? The Black Sessions, while it is an ALBUM in the general sense, released by 4AD, is not part of FB's discography. It is classified as a compilation. Official live discs are classified as compilations and do not count towards the artists discography. So it is an official release, but is not an album in the "LP album" sense.
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Thanks for answering my question Jim, and for going postal at the same time. Why does it piss YOU off so much though?? If you want to be anally-retentive-correct, The Black Sessions Plus The Kitchen Tapes is not an "official live disc." See that "Plus the Kitchen Tapes"? Those weren't played in front of an audience. And the "hidden" track, a studio version of Calistan (if I remember correctly) obviously isn't live either. Maybe this pisses you off but that's your problem. So, I disagree and say that The Black Sessions Plus The Kitchen Tapes is indeed an album, and part of FB's discography (the discography should include all official releases shouldn't it, not just the studio albums?). |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 21:38:27
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Frank needs to release a Peel album of every JP session he has done.... now that would be cool!
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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noexx
= Cult of Ray =
361 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 21:49:50
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| and maybe an alternate mixes, takes or demo versions of albums...each one. now get on it frank. |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 21:52:52
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A live album for sure.... plus a new studio album.
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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noexx
= Cult of Ray =
361 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 21:55:46
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i imagine a studio album is well on it's way as usual....
what are we gonna do if/when frank finally takes a break and doesn't put out a single album for a year? we're getting so pampered these last few years with release after release in short amounts of time...... |
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TOTIPOTENT
- Master of Differentiation -
USA
247 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 23:32:48
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Originally posted by billgoodman
How many stars girl can you both count and then classify
shit! I ment many, that was a typo.
"I joined the Cult of Frank / 'Cause Dean promised me World Domination" |
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TOTIPOTENT
- Master of Differentiation -
USA
247 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 23:42:10
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Originally posted by carsonwerner
I believe he's saying how many stars can you both count AND classify, like being able to perfom those two actions.
Thanks! That is a nice angle. And I also think that you are 100% correct. Thank you for solving my many years of confusion...
"I joined the Cult of Frank / 'Cause Dean promised me World Domination" |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2003 : 07:30:14
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Originally posted by noexx
i imagine a studio album is well on it's way as usual....
what are we gonna do if/when frank finally takes a break and doesn't put out a single album for a year? we're getting so pampered these last few years with release after release in short amounts of time......
dunno, was thinking about this a few days ago.... if Frank decided not to release an album for another two years then the Catholics should release a live album in between to keep the trend going.
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2003 : 21:21:44
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Originally posted by El Barto
God FUCKING damnit, I've explained this before. Do you people bring this shit up just to piss me off, or just to sound obscure and cool by naming an album that you THINK is an album off the cuff that not a lot of people have heard of?
I know that it's been explained before, but I did not intend to debate about it. I was trying to answer the question of Sir Rockabye. One day, I was looking through the archived posts of this forum, and I noticed some hread topic called "Ranking Frank's CDs" or something like that, and I couldn't help but notice that virtually everyone had the black sessions album at the bottom of their list. That's why I posted the reply, just to let Sir Rockabye know, in case he lost all his money except for $12, went to a record store, saw all the Frank albums, and wanted to make the best possible purchase. Why would I waste my time and post a question that has already been discussed numerous times? With all due respect, I think that we should be able to mention the album without turning it into some tired old debate. If not, I will delete all the replies. Seriously, I am very sorry. Please forgive me. I Don't Want to Hurt You (Every Single Time). |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2003 : 21:48:43
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Icecream, don;t worry about it.... it's not something people should be getting pissed off about.
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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Blank Frack
- FB Fan -
USA
24 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2003 : 16:30:20
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| TASTES GREAT! |
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
899 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2003 : 17:41:36
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Ahhh... ice cream. It tastes great and brings you serene comfort. (okay)
The Black Sessions mostly sucks because you can't hear the damn bass guitar on most songs (can be a fun thing if you're a bassist, however). The performances are pretty solid, and there are a few rare songs on there, so it's a worthy purchase for the FB-obsessed.
Good luck with your purchases, Sir Rockabye. |
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