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the thing
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
313 Posts |
 Posted - 09/09/2003 : 07:35:28
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The choices:
The Pixies never existed (FB history starts with FB, FB)
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Frank never recorded a note after Trompe Le Monde
which??
My head was feeling scared, but my heart was feeling free |
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
632 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 07:47:39
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i couldnt imagine the world without a FB/FB&TC album !
~you will get used to me, welcome to your new joy
Heloise by FB&TC |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 18:46:05
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You're evil, the thing...this topic is truely evil. Why don't you ask which arm I'd rather chop off? This is a tough question, man. I guess I'd go with the Pixies not existing...with FB starting in 93 till present, I'd at least get to enjoy all the times I've seen him live.
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
899 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 19:13:26
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I'd say FB just because there are twice as many albums, yet... Trompe le Monde cannot be topped.
When the hell is CBS gonna do a Murphy Brown reunion? |
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
819 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 19:16:06
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That's beyond a toughie.......I gotta go with Frank though, for basically the same reason: he's still around now that I'm old enough to give a damn. Still though, I wonder how many people would really have paid any attention to Frank Black's solo stuff if it hadn't been for the Pixies. I'm not saying his songs aren't strong enough to stand on their own, but I wonder whether he would have become big enough that people all around the world would really pay attention.
Nothing is ever something. |
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 09/09/2003 : 20:40:31
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| i definately go with door number 1. the pixies are great but frank's got way more albums and variety. nothing beats TOTY in my opinion. his new stuff is fuckin awesome. SMYT kicks ass. plus when you see frank you get to see/hear him play pixies tunes! |
Edited by - fumanbru on 09/09/2003 20:42:18 |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 22:01:58
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| How far do we want to look into this..if there was no Pixies..we'd be missing a lot of other bands... |
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noexx
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 09/09/2003 : 22:23:25
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| well....i would take frank because it is still happening.....and it's good! |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 09/10/2003 : 00:50:45
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Originally posted by Dave Noisy
How far do we want to look into this..if there was no Pixies..we'd be missing a lot of other bands...
And, if it weren't for the Pixies, then I probably would never have found Frank Black. |
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Sheamus
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
345 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 01:25:45
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| I like Frank Black's post Pixies stuff, but in my mind absolutely nothing can beat the Pixies. I'd still rather the Pixies if they had only realsed one album and Frank had released 20 non Pixies albums. |
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
395 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 07:00:33
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I vote for death to The Thing for doing this to us. I would hang before answering that question.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 12:04:49
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How far do we want to look into this..if there was no Pixies..we'd be missing a lot of other bands...
Dave has a good point though...removing the Pixies from history would throw the entire history of rock and roll way off. We'd still be listening to Poison and White Snake, I think.
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
819 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 14:45:20
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Not a chance. That thing was dead anyway, something would have jumped in. Maybe hip hop would have been mainstreamed a couple years earlier or something, and the Seattle thing was in motion too. Remember, Soundgarden was the first of those bands to get picked up by a major label, and I don't think they owed anything to the Pixies.
Nothing is ever something. |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 17:34:23
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Ouch..that's very scary Jim.
Bands may not have 'owed' anything to the Pixies directly, but they had tremendous influence, and no doubt played a part affecting the other bands that influenced SG, or whoever.
On a personal note, i've had a few folks tell me my music sounds like so-and-so, and oddly, i haven't listened to them at all...but i HAVE listened to bands that were influenced by so-and-so...you know? |
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
899 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 18:28:10
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Nah... the only bands that influenced Soundgarden were Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin. :)
IMO, there were plenty of bands around concurrent w/ or before the Pixies that had (or would've, if the Pixies hadn't existed) as big a part in spearheading the '90s mainstream surgence of "alternative" music. I'm not saying that most of those bands were beacons of consistency or melodic ingenuity on the level of the Pixies, mind you, just that they were similarly innovative and, thus, influential. Anyway, Poison didn't stand a chance of holding down the fort for long, Pixies or no.
When the hell is CBS gonna do a Murphy Brown reunion? |
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the thing
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
313 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2003 : 02:54:12
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It's a well known fact that Elvis was heavily influenced by Come On Pilgrim...
But seriously, I read and article where Kurt Cobain said (about Smells Like Teen Spirit - I think) "S**t, I wrote a Pixies song..". You can't deny the influence of the Pixies on modern "alternative". Franks title of "Godfather of Grunge" is well earned.
I just wondered which people valued most - The "F" section of their record collection - or the "P" section, but yeah - nice to get people riled...
My head was feeling scared, but my heart was feeling free |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
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Posted - 09/11/2003 : 03:06:48
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| i thought neil young was the "Godfather of Grunge" and frank was "the King of Alternative". and i always was pissed off about the 'teen spirit being a pixies song' when i can't imagine frank singing about depression or whatever in that way. i mean, he's just not as whiny as kurt cobain was. |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2003 : 22:28:25
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| Yeah, Neil is the GF of grunge.. I'm not sure what an appropriate title for FB/BF would be...? |
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Sheamus
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
345 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2003 : 00:41:43
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| The Thing: Kurt was refering to the music of the song, not the lyrics. |
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2003 : 20:16:28
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Originally posted by Chris Knight
I'd say FB just because there are twice as many albums, yet... Trompe le Monde cannot be topped.
When the hell is CBS gonna do a Murphy Brown reunion?
You're one of the first people who I've heard cite "Trompe Le Monde" as one of their favorite Pixies albums...I've always heard that it was uninspired when compared to their old albums. Reviews I've read always touted it as being like, the band's least favorite of their albums. Maybe it is, but I always thought it rocked, and it was the first Pixies album I ever bought. My favorite songs from that album were "Alec Eiffel" and "Letters to Memphis."
"...you can see here by my grin I don't give a fuck..." |
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2003 : 20:20:57
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Originally posted by the thing
The choices:
The Pixies never existed (FB history starts with FB, FB)
or
Frank never recorded a note after Trompe Le Monde
which??
My head was feeling scared, but my heart was feeling free
I guess by a hair's width I'd have to say Frank Black over the Pixies -- but I feel dirty and blasphemous for saying that. I don't know, though, if I were listening to Bossanova right now instead of Show Me Your Tears, I might answer the other way.
"...you can see here by my grin I don't give a fuck..." |
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