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Steve
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Posted - 08/23/2003 :  15:15:04  Show Profile
My apologies in advance for the redundant question. I've searched the archives, read old posts, and still not figured out how to get the jewel case art to print properly. It is far oversized for the jewel case and the front fold doesn't fit on one page (no matter how much I think it will this time). The solution is probably very simple. Help? Bueller? Cult_of_Frank??

Cheers,

-Steve

peter radiator
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Posted - 08/23/2003 :  15:30:39  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Steve

My apologies in advance for the redundant question. I've searched the archives, read old posts, and still not figured out how to get the jewel case art to print properly. It is far oversized for the jewel case and the front fold doesn't fit on one page (no matter how much I think it will this time). The solution is probably very simple. Help? Bueller? Cult_of_Frank??

Cheers,

-Steve



I too have never been able to get this to print right. The design looks great, but I feel that it could have been laid out in a much more simple manner so that everyone would have been able to print it properly on the first try. Hopefully this snafu will be addressed on the next such tribute disc.

For what it's worth, here's my recommendation for how to do it next time (I know this doesn't help anyone now):

Create the design in Quark or a similar professional layout program. Make sure that all art elements are at least 300 DPI, and much more (1200 DPI) if they are bitmaps.

Make sure all crop, fold and cut marks are completely accurate and industry standard. I have numerous professional templates for these and will be happy ti upload them if need be, but I'm sure the other designers have these as well, or can get them easily.

That way, if the layout is done to correct scale at 100%, everything will be in the perfect place.

Then, once the entire thing is finished, convert it to an extremely high-res EPS file. This should keep the colors consistent, and imbed all the fonts as images so there can't be any compatibility issues from computer to computer.

If you're doing the layout in something like Photoshop, save it as a Tiff file, rather than a JPEG, as JPEGs seem to cause much more anomalies and artifacts after being compressed.

Include detailed instructions on how to print that file in a manner that virtually everyone will be able to understand.

If it's just an EPS image file, folks should be able to open it as a picture file in Quark, Illustrator, Pagemaker, or any number of other programs. They probably could just open it on their desktops as a picture. Then they can just hit print on their inkjet or laser printer.

It should be that easy. It'll come out at the correct dimensions, and can be trimmed, folded and inserted.

It's important not to get caught up in all sorts of confusing resolution issues. The final art should be no less than 300 DPI at full size.

The layout could also be saved as a PDF file, since most all modern computers seem to come with PDF readers these days.

Anyway, for what it's worth, those are my suggestions (as someone who has designed over a dozen commercially-replicated and released CDs).

Any other approaches anyone can think of?

~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 08/25/2003 :  07:44:11  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Ryan (the artist) and I had a lot of discussion on the art and how to make it as easy to print as possible for everyone. What we've done is included one copy that you SHOULD be able to open in any image editing software and just print. You'll have to make sure your scaling is turned off so that it's not shrunk/blown up. There is a separate copy available that you can put into a program like Nero and stretch it as needed to fit.

As Mr. Radiator points out, there are standards and this was another point of discussion between myself & Ryan as I felt that they weren't quite standard size (in particular the back page).

However, we decided to see if there were problems with the artwork printing and we didn't seem to encounter any after release (I think one person maybe two). Releasing it as a PDF is a good idea though, and I forget why we didn't do that...

Steve, just to recap, make sure that your printer isn't scaling to fit and that you aren't printing from Internet Explorer as the resolution is double what IE shows and so comes out much too large.

Between this & Ryan's thread, I'm reminded of something I said I was going to do awhile ago, before I became very busy....
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