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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/18/2003 :  12:07:40  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
ok my dad seems to have read
that fb is about to release pre-pixies demo's
some edited and some re-recorded (strange, how can you re-record a pre-pixies demo?)

But my dad doesn't know where he read it
so can anyone confirm this?

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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2003 :  15:27:49  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
That's news to me...

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
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Posted - 08/18/2003 :  15:58:56  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
He's probably confusing an old report about the Purple Tape? I don't know...
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/19/2003 :  07:46:37  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
my dad's old but he's not that old LOL

he said:
Demo's before the purple tape (a father who knows about a pixies demo collection AND can even name it, is a cool dad)
some edited, some re-recorded

NOTE: I'm not saying my dad can't be wrong, but he was right the last time about the Everything is New single release date. I was sure it came out 8 august, but he told me in july that it was already out and he was right, much to my disbelieve.



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neo
- FB Fan -

Canada
73 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2003 :  08:02:12  Show Profile  Visit neo's Homepage
the only stuff i've heard before the demos are 4 or 5 4-track recordings in black francis's apartment, one of which sounds like his girlfriend at the time does some backing vocals (chorus goes 'you're so dark, you're so strange...'). that's what it sounds like to me, i got those off of kazaa.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
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Posted - 08/19/2003 :  12:42:41  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Yes, the oft discussed "college demos". Those are pretty much the only known, surfaced pre-Pixies tracks around.

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/20/2003 :  01:35:02  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
he said he read it in the new Record Collector
but he wasn't too sure about that either

(sheesh!)

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El Barto
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USA
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Posted - 08/20/2003 :  13:37:08  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Sounds like someone's dad needs to lay off the bottle.

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/21/2003 :  06:20:18  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
yeah! haha!

well we just have to wait
maybe it turns out to be true
but I'm not too sure about that



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MMBanner
- FB Fan -

Russia
22 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  16:59:18  Show Profile
Hm. Is thats songs will be released?

01 - Draw Attention
02 - Fight With Honour
03 - Keeping In Time
04 - Silhouette

I don't know, but this songs is called Frank Black - ''Pre-Pixies'' on bootleg. ???



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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  19:30:45  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by MMBanner

Hm. Is thats songs will be released?

01 - Draw Attention
02 - Fight With Honour
03 - Keeping In Time
04 - Silhouette

I don't know, but this songs is called Frank Black - ''Pre-Pixies'' on bootleg. ???

Not sure that I understand you, but you seem to have described the mystery. Those are the only four I know of that are attributed to Frank's pre-Pixies college days, but the question is whether they or something like them will be released. Maybe somebody can check recent issues of "Record Collector" for us.

Given that you're Russian, how did you become acquainted with the Pixies?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/27/2003 :  11:12:47  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
yes. someone should. their website doesn't reveal anything

(you can't read articles on their site)

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MMBanner
- FB Fan -

Russia
22 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  16:25:49  Show Profile
Oh! Frank & Pixies are favorites for me & many guys in Russia. If Frank will arrive to Moskow - we will very happy! But Frank doesn't know about russian fans. We waiting for him. True!


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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
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Posted - 08/28/2003 :  15:42:08  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage
jo (from 4ad) discusses the inaccuracies of the record collector article in the pixies discussion section.

go check it out.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/29/2003 :  02:45:45  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
she doesn't mention pre-pixies demo's
but she makes clear Record Collector ain't a very good source



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jo
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
516 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2003 :  08:57:21  Show Profile  Visit jo's Homepage
the latest Record Collector only has about the 4ad reissues... nothing else. I just checked...
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ohu
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Posted - 09/07/2003 :  03:46:25  Show Profile
i think it was in the last issue of Bang magazine (new UK indie mag - the one with eminem on the cover, not the darkness)
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/07/2003 :  11:43:18  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
ok

what was in there exactly?



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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/07/2003 :  11:54:18  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
I'm beginning to believe
the old man was right

He did say it was in Bang magazine with Eminem on the cover
He reads so much magazines he couldn't name it at once
But he is almost sure it was in that magazine, when I asked him

could anyone post the article?



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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/08/2003 :  05:51:48  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
apologies accepted

My dad isn't insane
he's still the great source of valuable info he used to be

this is a reply I got from Bang magazine's website:

''He's found the demo for The Purple Tape and he's just finished retouching it with Two Pale Boys, two avant garde musos who have worked with David Thomas of Pere Ubu. I haven't got a release date though.''

so
who's cool now?
El barto

(remember he did write: Sounds like someone's dad needs to lay off the bottle)

or

BillGoodman

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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2003 :  11:56:52  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
That's great. I sort of hope that by "retouching" they meant remixing, though what is there to mix?

When the hell is CBS gonna do a Murphy Brown reunion?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/08/2003 :  14:52:24  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
I guess it's more like extra recording
Those are musicians he's working with

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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
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Posted - 09/08/2003 :  16:16:02  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
This doesn't make any sense...demo for the Purple Tape? The Purple Tape *was* a demo...

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/08/2003 :  22:33:11  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
he never said it made any sense
or that it was for real
but it was really in a magazine
now we have to wait and see if it was true

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Broken Face
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USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2003 :  06:54:41  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
i was just watching the gouge documentary, and charles mentions a demo for the purple tape, just him and a guitar that was recorded at someone's house (i know i'm being real vague) to get all the songs down on tape first

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jo
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
516 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2003 :  10:13:02  Show Profile  Visit jo's Homepage
there's the songs recorded at Gary Smiths house. that was the pre-Purple Tape demo
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2003 :  10:19:09  Show Profile
ooh they're gonna release that?! when Frank was still Charles Thompson? that would rock.

-Jessie

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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2003 :  11:18:36  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Check out the FTP section....
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/09/2003 :  12:44:03  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
what's in there?

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11674 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2003 :  13:18:36  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
The college demos. Fight with honour, ... etc.

This is really the only pre-purple tape stuff known to exist, though that's not to say there isn't more.


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ohu
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2 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2003 :  14:17:54  Show Profile
yeah, the Bang article said they were pre-purple tape demos - frank told them some of the songs needed touching up, and that he had been recording in a London studio with Two Pale Boys.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2003 :  16:55:08  Show Profile
so if frank said they were an embarrassment in "the king holds court" thread, this can't be true . . . right? This has probably already been covered.
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 09/24/2003 :  19:05:08  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
He said the college demos were an embarrassment, not the Purple Tape demos (what people are talking about here).

When the hell is CBS gonna do a Murphy Brown reunion?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6013 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2003 :  23:27:58  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
yes, you're right Chris

now just wait and see if Frank answers my question in the king holds court thread

I'm really dying for a positive answer
I've got a ''purple tape demo'' reputation over here all ready
let's hope it turns out ok

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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
395 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2003 :  03:53:55  Show Profile
Someone should contact Gary Smith and ask if he still has the songs he recorded alone with the young CT...
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