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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 08/29/2003 : 07:45:41
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The Wiz. Now, that was a landmark in theatrical achievement.
I can't say I like musicals, except for maybe "The Sound Of Music" or "Camelot." I need to see "Fiddler on the Roof" again; haven't seen that since I was little. I know that the music in them is supposed to be interpretive, and not "really" part of the movie, but I never could get over how all these people could just break into song, all knowing the words and all. It kind of always distracted from the rest of the movie. I guess I am just too contemporary minded, and have trouble looking at musicals as an entire presentation and not just a movie with people singing. You really have to change your mode of thinking, to be able to use that ambiguous, literary part of your mind that can appreciate the raw emotions behind a story, and not just follow the story itself. Sorry if no one knows what the fuck I'm talking about. It's hard to put into words. It's just, in today's media you mainly go to a movie and everything's laid out for you, and little or no time is spent analyzing or focusing on pivotal events in the movie, which people do through singing in musicals.
Quantum nonlocality does not prove that "signals" travel "faster than light." Rather, it shows that at a deep level of reality the speed of light as a limiting factor is irrelevant because phenomena are instantaneously connected regardless of distance. |
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2003 : 07:49:08
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Originally posted by speedy_m
I don't know if it's in the league of extraordinarily bad films like B & R or the Avengers, but has anyone seen "Identity"? Holy Moses, that is a piss poor film. The big "twist" is a big flop, the "whodunnit" is weak, while the "thriller/slasher" elements are neither thrilling nor particularly gory. What a waste of time. I'm glad I only spent 3 bones on this dreck, and even then, I'd like a refund. But, it was that or Legally Blonde 2, so what could I do?
Is the "League of Extraordinarily Bad Films" anything like the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?" I am in a group called "The League of Extraordinarily Well-Hung and Profoundly Prolific Frank Black.net Thread Posters" group.
Thank you.
That is all.
Quantum nonlocality does not prove that "signals" travel "faster than light." Rather, it shows that at a deep level of reality the speed of light as a limiting factor is irrelevant because phenomena are instantaneously connected regardless of distance. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2003 : 08:23:40
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Originally posted by glacial906
The Wiz. Now, that was a landmark in theatrical achievement.
I can't say I like musicals, except for maybe "The Sound Of Music" or "Camelot." I need to see "Fiddler on the Roof" again; haven't seen that since I was little. I know that the music in them is supposed to be interpretive, and not "really" part of the movie, but I never could get over how all these people could just break into song, all knowing the words and all. It kind of always distracted from the rest of the movie. I guess I am just too contemporary minded, and have trouble looking at musicals as an entire presentation and not just a movie with people singing. You really have to change your mode of thinking, to be able to use that ambiguous, literary part of your mind that can appreciate the raw emotions behind a story, and not just follow the story itself. Sorry if no one knows what the fuck I'm talking about. It's hard to put into words. It's just, in today's media you mainly go to a movie and everything's laid out for you, and little or no time is spent analyzing or focusing on pivotal events in the movie, which people do through singing in musicals.
Yeah, that's definitely a big part, I think, of why people don't like musicals. It seems cheesy to have a bunch of people burst spontaneously into song. It's sort of like having a picture of some setting in black and white and then painting the colours that convey the emotions of that image. You still get the idea of what's going on, but the feeling has been drawn out of it without the colour. And sometimes you have no song or really stark, just as sometimes you have black & white photography and film despite technological advances 30-some years ago - it's all about setting the mood.
That said, the music often also tells the story, as in Fiddler with the opening setting up the backstory and what's going on. And sometimes it is cheesy and un-necessary to have music in certain parts and even distracting. Which is, I guess, what separates a good musical from a bad one. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2003 : 08:24:21
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Originally posted by glacial906
Is the "League of Extraordinarily Bad Films" anything like the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?" I am in a group called "The League of Extraordinarily Well-Hung and Profoundly Prolific Frank Black.net Thread Posters" group.
Yeah, I actually founded that group. |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 08:11:06
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No you did not.
Dean, did you watch Slingblade yet? And you were going to see it! On my very word alone. |
Edited by - Carolynanna on 09/02/2003 09:09:28 |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 09:07:14
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| Nope, 'twas a busy busy weekend. I will, though, maybe even later this week. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 09:08:40
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| But it'll be on mere's word. :) |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 11:23:58
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| Screw you, I'm not watching Fiddler on the Roof then! |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 12:53:12
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See, you only hurt yourself by doing that. Fine, after you watch Fiddler, I'll watch SlingBling.
On another note, I watched Chicago last night and that was pretty decent too, though it could have done with probably one less song and a bit more plot development instead, in my opinion. But I'd still see Fiddler first. You can't compete with a classic. |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 12:56:49
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Dean, when I see you at the Ween concert, I'm gonna kick your ass!
And just for the hell of it, I'm gonna kick Mike's too:)
I was a little busy this weekend myself, I'll watch it though, someday.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 13:53:15
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| I've been rethinking the Ween concert because The Mollusk hasn't really grabbed me (yet) and I really get the feeling I'm not going to be a fan of their earlier stuff. Using words like 'dick' in a song haven't made me laugh since I was 12 and seem really, well, what's the word... pandering to a different crowd then I am, I guess. I just really dislike that aspect of them. Not that I don't have a sense of humour, I'm not offended, I just don't care for that. |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 13:57:36
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So you're not going to go?
I think I'm gonna cry :(
There is alot of their stuff that is pretty rank, but some is not. Did you listen to homo rainbow yet? I love that song.
but I am very very very stoked to go to Modest Mouse next Tuesday, and to think I never would've known if not for this forum. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:03:46
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| Well, we'll see. Modest Mouse I've never heard (though I've heard of them), but Mike's not a big fan and we generally have the same musical tastes, so I'm not sure that I'll go see them just 'cause they're big. |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
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Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:04:24
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i don't like modest mouse, but i've only heard about two of their songs.
could anyone reccomend(eek! i can't spell!) a song i can download and enjoy? thankya.
-Jessie
"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..." |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:16:44
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| I tried with them, I swear. I downloaded all of "the Moon and Antartica" and I just couldn't get into it. His voice bothers me. I would recomend the new gbv record instead Jessie. Then a nice warm bath. |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:18:19
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Ooooh I love MM.
Jessie, try Dramamine and Talkin Shit about a Pretty Sunset.
Dean you seem like you're in a foul mood today.
This building is definitely burning down. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:20:36
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| Really? Well, maybe a little. Sorry. Hope I'm not coming off as rude or something. I usually leave that to Mike. :) |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:24:41
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Well, you guys are not the most whimsical chaps of the evening.
And Mike what do you mean you don't like MM, is there something wrong with you? |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:26:50
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Hey, I'm kinda whimsical....
I don't know Carolyn, I just didn't like 'em. To be fair, I should spend more time with them. But the concert is gonna be 20 bones! Frank was only 15! That's messed up. |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:28:31
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i already heard Talkin Shit about a Pretty Sunset and i didn't like it. hmm. don't worry mike, i'm planning to. i have about eight of their albums now. but i think that includes bob's 'waved out'.
-Jessie
"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..." |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:29:54
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Agreed. There's some screwed up math when that sort of thing happens. Then again, how much was Cher? :)
And I'll agree with (almost) anything you say as long as it's a Simpsons reference. Except that. I'm definitely whimsical. To the bone. I INVENTED the whole concept of whimsicality. |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
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Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:33:52
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Jessie, you will not be dissapointed by the new record. It's very nice. Especially Useless Inventions and Best of Jill Hives. Magnificent songs, both. As for Waved Out, it contains many classics as well. Another Bob solo must have: Speak Kindly of Your Volunteer Fire Dept. It's probably not available in Ireland, as it's not on Matador, it's on his own Fading Captain Series dealy. But if you can aquire it somehow, I highly recomend it.
It's true, Dean did in fact invent the whole concept of "whimsicality", thus the "whimsical" rainbow stars and the affinity for thin mustaches and daisy dukes. |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:41:01
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well, i bought my whole collection in LA apart from universal truths... which is the only one i've seen in and around my area.
bulldog skin keeps rattling around my head.
-Jessie
"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..." |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:42:29
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| I love Mag Earwhig. I doesn't get near enough respect. Too many lovely songs on there for it not to be revered in the same league as Bee Thousand and Alien Lanes. |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:45:23
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y'know what i saw today? murder she wrote. and you know who was on it? "Joe Santiago". sadly not our joey, but a bald black police officer. he was kinda cool though.
nah, he wasnt, i just wished he was.
-Jessie
"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..." |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 14:51:54
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yeah, 'i am a tree' is another madly catchy one. i don't think bob wrote it, but by gum its great!
-Jessie
"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..." |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 15:16:21
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oh, and mike, if you remember, this is the pixies/matrix pic in case you cared...
-Jessie
"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..." |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 15:18:48
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it worked soooo much better in colour.
-Jessie
"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..." |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2003 : 20:25:15
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| Pixies/Matrix? I apparently have a bit of a Memento thing going on. Except it's only parts of my memory that are totally gone. I Am A Tree was written by Doug Gillard, and it's a beauty. Anyone who laments the "new" GbV and misses Tobin Sprout should shut up and listen to what an amazing musician/songwriter Doug Gillard is. Nothing against Toby, he's great too. |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2003 : 09:34:21
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| Alright so I rented Fiddler, didn't watch it yet, but its getting closer. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2003 : 09:40:22
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| Alright, I'll rent SlingBlade this eve. I'd watch Fiddler with the whole fam, it's a wholesome little musical. That is, assuming your kids are old enough to watch something that long. Maybe not them, on second thought... |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2003 : 09:57:40
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Originally posted by speedy_m
Hey, I'm kinda whimsical....
I don't know Carolyn, I just didn't like 'em. To be fair, I should spend more time with them. But the concert is gonna be 20 bones! Frank was only 15! That's messed up.
Maybe you're a big homophobe, u said its the voice and he definitely sounds flaming. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2003 : 10:30:40
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| That would explain his marked absence since I was endowed with the twirly rainbow stars. :) |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2003 : 10:35:26
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Looks like someone gave you the gay Dean.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2003 : 11:17:41
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There are all kinds of Deans, but there is no such thing as 'the gay Dean'. The Annoying Dean, Crazy Dean, Cute Dean (some argue he doesn't exist either), Funny Dean, Happy Dean (is this who you mean?), ... , and Whimsical Dean.
Nope, no gay on there anywhere. :)
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