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distortedmind
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 Posted - 07/28/2003 : 10:14:27
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So does anyone here actually know why that particualr pixies song was used to end-out one of the best movies ever?
was the director a fan?
do the lyrics bare any significance to the film?
views and opinions pleasey please. 
sowwy if this has been discussed before but i'm sure i made all you lovely people aware of my newbieness with my "other" thread 
okies byeeeee for nowie. WOW an 8 ball  AMAZING!!!!!!
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 07/28/2003 : 10:19:27
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Though I would disagree that it is one of the best movies ever, "Where Is My Mind" was a great choice for the ending because of the schitzophrenic/multiple personality plot twist which led to the entire city collapsing, and the eeryness of that song was perfect. As far as the director being a fan or whatever else, no idea, but obviously someone in the production lineup has heard of the Pixies. Or maybe they searched Google. :) It's possible.
And the only way to tell you're a newbie is the incredible fascination with emoticons. :) |
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distortedmind
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 07/28/2003 : 11:01:16
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
And the only way to tell you're a newbie is the incredible fascination with emoticons. :)
                
Now shit off you rubbish bastard
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neo
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Posted - 07/28/2003 : 11:36:55
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For the record, i'm proud to say I saw the pixies open for love and rockets in montreal, before the whole U2/Zoo debacle.
Fight Club without a doubt IS one of the best movies ever. I used to work in a video store and have seen the majority of good movies (or even all movies) out there. FC was constantly in my lineup of staff picks. When I first saw FC in the theater I was in a state of awe, then when i heard the peripheral ghost of where is my mind fade in... there was in effect some kind of transcendent synergy. I used to fall asleep to where is my mind in my headphones in high school, when I felt (rightly so) that hardly anyone understood the genius of the pixies. Then to see, not only someone understanding it, but on the big screen years later, used in what happens to be my favorite movie of all time, is somehow another drop in the ocean of absurdity that is my life. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
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Posted - 07/28/2003 : 14:49:27
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I'm with neo on this one, Fight Club is definitely one of the best films ever. It's my #1. I too was in a state of awe the entire movie...I had never seen a movie that good before...the whole time I was just like "holy shit."
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leokearse
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/28/2003 : 15:48:34
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Any film featuring Meatloaf with big floppy tits is a winner in my book....all of a sudden there seem to be Pixies tunes popping up everywhere....levitate me (or another off 'Pilgrim) was on "Unbreakable", Tame was on a smirnoff ad, others used for teevee incidental music all the time. I can only surmise that the kids who listened to the Pixies when they were playing football in '91 are now advertising executives and film makers. Which leaves one question: why aren't I an ad exec or rich film bastard?
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
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Posted - 07/28/2003 : 16:18:12
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It was "I've Been Tired" in Unbreakable.
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jo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 00:54:09
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I don't know why it was used, but in general, when tracks are used in films, most of the time its the director or an actor or the producers or just someone who goes "wow yeah, that song would be REALLY good" and they ask for permission... its rare someone from 4ad would put the track to them
I'll see what I can find out, although I'm guessing there'll be some FB interview with the answer somewhere....
Funnily enough, I know some people whose first exposure to the Pixies was via the Smirnoff ad... well its not that funny really, but I like to think somewhere each day someone discovers a Pixies song :) |
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Perhaps
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 08:04:08
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Whomever chose WHERE IS MY MIND did an excellent job. Sadly it was the greatest point of an otherwise slightly-above-average film. When David Lynch starts using FB, that's when we'll get magic.
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ProverbialCereal
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 08:16:23
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Slightly-above-average?!
Wow, Fight Club is amazing. One of my favorite movies and definitely not average because it's unlike any movie I've ever seen. Edward Norton is an awesome actor and Brad Pitt was perfect in FC. And c'mon, MeatLoaf! Fight Club IS. You can't compare it to any other movie.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 08:29:34
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| It was a silly premise done well. I can't say I enjoyed the pseudo-philosophical aspects of it (though some of my friends felt differently). If you think this film changed your life, you probably need to get out more! |
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leokearse
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 08:36:00
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Originally posted by Perhaps
Whomever chose WHERE IS MY MIND did an excellent job. Sadly it was the greatest point of an otherwise slightly-above-average film. When David Lynch starts using FB, that's when we'll get magic.
Didn't David Lynch use Lady In the Elevator song in Eraserheed? Or did the Pixies copy it off 'Heed? I suspect the latter, since, 'head cmae out about 10 years before the Pixies got together.
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Perhaps
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 08:38:57
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I love Ed Norton. Bradd Pitt has been awesome in everything I've seen. I agree, Meatloaf with tits can never go wrong.
I did not think this movie was all that unique. In fact, the technique of implanting the logic of the film, without the premises is often used (Hitchcock was pretty good at it; plus see the Third Man; but more recently Sixth Sense and Usual Suspects). That did not impress me all that much. The "slightly-above-average" piece came from the acting, and the psychological thrill. But, if you want that, just watch David Lynch. And then that is it finally, Fincher did a good job of adapting the novel (I would have to imagine - though I've been told otherwise) but this not having been his inspiration, it comes off that way. There are some engulfing bits, but some lackluster. Not terrible, not terrific. But the song rocked. |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 09:09:20
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Brad Pitt is a Pixies fan, he said he liked how the raw guitar of the Pixies contrasted with the well-produced chemical brothers music that played throughout the rest of the film. THere's also the super-lame explanation of...lyrically "where is my mind" as in Edward Nortan has no idea, but let's pray that's not the case.
As for Fight Club as a movie, I saw it and really enjoyed it in the theater, but it hasn't aged well. It tricks you, it tries to be an anti-violence satire by loading the screen with violence, which people love to justify as okay because deep down they like seeing people beat the shit out of eachother. The first hour was great though, the second hour being heavily flawed but still not without it's good points. I mean, yeah there is something funny and ironic about how much pleasure real MACHO MEN get out of wrestling and boxing in close contact with each other, but when the movie got into split personalities (aptly made fun of in Adaptation as the oldest screenplay trick in the book) and anarchy it completely imploded the interesting consumerism/homoerotic fighting theme. Edward Norton compared it to Clockwork Orange in its controversial mixed reviews and gritty ways of expressing its themes, the difference being Clockwork Orange didn't have that much to do with violence, it was more about free will. The violence just made the questions posed by CO more ambiguous. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 09:54:55
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Originally posted by BLT
It was a silly premise done well. I can't say I enjoyed the pseudo-philosophical aspects of it (though some of my friends felt differently). If you think this film changed your life, you probably need to get out more!
If ANY film changes your life then you need to get out more - FULL STOP !
Fight Club is an excellent film though, the acting is tremendous and you get to appreciate (wether male or female) one of the finest specemins of the male human form ever. I mean how the hell did Meat Loaf get that body ?
Oh and distrotedmind, does your enthusiasm for anything ever diminish ? I like your attitude though, very positive, good to see (well read)
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 10:31:42
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| No, I really don't see what is so excellent about the movie. I understand enjoying it and the plot twist is classic, as has been mentioned, in the vein of Usual Suspects and is quite Hitchcockian, and I do think the acting is well done, but to refer to it as the best movie or all time or life-changing or anything seems a little over the top. The concept has been done and is merely a different take on an old theme, the message has been communicated time and again and is neither new nor inspirational, and the acting is fine too, but that hardly defines a movie as the best thing out there (though it can certainly do the opposite: see The Avengers). An entertaining movie that sets the pop-culture bar a little higher intellectually speaking (or at least tries to, though this had been done previously by the Matrix), with good acting and an interesting premise, even a top-10 contender for movies on a pure enjoyment scale, but not an all-time classic, nor best movie ever, nor groundbreaking, nor whatever other praises have been dumped on it. Even with all the little clues and everything that were implanted throughout the movie that Norton=Pitt ala Sixth Sense. And the Pixies closing track. |
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gracie
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United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2003 : 10:46:13
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in heaven was in eraserhead first, fb covered it. in the film its sung by a lady in a radiator with large growths all over her face.
fight club is only an ok film, the best thing about it was where is my mind and meatloaf |
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Perhaps
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 11:02:07
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| lady in the radiator was adapted from ERASERHEAD. And there is another pseudo-ode to Lynch in, "got coffee, got donuts, got wasted, Erased head..." (I gotta move) |
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distortedmind
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 11:32:11
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I'm loving how enthralled you guys seem to be about this topic.
Great stuff!
answers is what i asked for and answers is exactly what i got
YIPPIE!
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El Barto
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 12:54:20
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"I Gotta Move" is all about Lynch-related stuff (I don't remember the story).
I can see why movie snobs don't think Fight Club is that great. OK, maybe not movie snobs, but people who have seen A LOT of movies. A lot of classics on up to the modern day. I'm not one of those people. Therefore it blew me away. Thank you.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 14:02:40
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Originally posted by El Barto
"I Gotta Move" is all about Lynch-related stuff (I don't remember the story).
Here's what I know. It's about the murder of Peter Ivers, who wrote "Lady in the Radiator" and (among other things) hosted "New Wave Theater" on cable back in the early '80s. I can't remember if the motivation was him being gay or what. The other verse is about Jack Nance (star of "Eraserhead"), who was killed in South Pasadena (a couple miles from where I write this) after getting into a confrontation with some creeps in a donut shop. More info can be found on the web. |
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Perhaps
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Posted - 07/29/2003 : 14:21:27
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you can't deny a movie blowing you away...
I think there is a version of "I gotta move" somewhere on the ftp that has FB essentially telling that story. Pretty cool to here him tell it, and then seemingly emphasize the specific parts in tune.. |
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leokearse
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Posted - 07/30/2003 : 03:43:46
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Fight Club is an excellent film though, the acting is tremendous and you get to appreciate (wether male or female) one of the finest specemins of the male human form ever. I mean how the hell did Meat Loaf get that body ?
arf arf!!!
Didn't know all that crazy stuff about the Eraserhead murders. Is this a 'curse of eraserhead'? - like the 'curse of dads army' and 'curse of last of the summer wine' where the actors mysteriously die?
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axel
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Posted - 07/30/2003 : 04:19:57
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| Or the 'superman' curse. The creators of superman sold the character to a comics company for a few bucks and didn't get a dime for the supermancraze. And whole lot of people who were in the movies got mysteriously very unlucky. |
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2003 : 10:04:10
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| wasn't there an exorcist curse where loads of the film crew died while filming it?, i'm sure i heard something like that although it might have just been a publicity stunt |
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/30/2003 : 10:10:14
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Yeah and there was a famous curse on Amitchyville Horror (how the hell do you spell that ?).
Did i read something about Matrix earlier ? Now there's an overated film, good, but very overated and the sequel was just tiresome.
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ProverbialCereal
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Posted - 07/30/2003 : 11:59:12
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I don't think Matrix is overrated. Ok well maybe a TAD. but it's a great film. The sequel was OK, not nearly as good as the first. That stupid dance scene/orgy pissed me off. It wouldn't end.
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leokearse
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Posted - 07/31/2003 : 09:47:05
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Nightclub scenes in films are always hilarious because they're always some forty-something studio exec or set designer's idea of what 'the kids' are up to these days in their boogie woogie wonderlands. The Matrix's nightclub scenes were particularly laughable as it seemed to suggest that 'the kids' these days all think they're in a bad goth video circa 1987. In fact the whole film was like a bad goth video.
You know what else bugs me? The alleged religious spirituality behind the Matrix - the comparisons between Keenoo and Jesus, calling the Ewok Rave Zone 'Zion' and shit like that. If it's true, it's quite dodgy - the pure and noblehearted goodies defending Zion from the hordes of expendable, replaceable baddies - did Donald Rumsfeld have first dibs on the script or something?
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
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Posted - 07/31/2003 : 12:59:16
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Hey now, there's already an appropriate thread to torch Matrix. =P
I thought FC was great. Bring on the anarchy and anti-establimentarianism. |
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vegan
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Posted - 07/31/2003 : 17:08:55
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| Fight Club the book is better; however, I think they are both so unique that they can stand on their own (I also really dig the film). As a huge Lynch fan, I read some articles by some production assistant on Lost Highway who, while a Pixies song was blaring over the PA, quoted Lynch as saying, "I've got to have this song!" Of course, there is no Pixies song in the movie. I wonder which song it was that he wanted and why it didn't get used. Anyone have any insight? |
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neo
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Posted - 08/01/2003 : 15:38:26
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| it was during a bowling scene if i remember right. |
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Don Eduardo
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Posted - 08/03/2003 : 17:47:31
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| im pretty sure Lynch wanted "Ana" in lost highway but there were licensing problems with Elektra so he ended up using "Eye" by The Smashing Pumpkins instead. Bummer. |
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axel
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Posted - 08/04/2003 : 03:30:44
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bad pumpin song!
I loved Fight Club until the whole split character thing became obvious. It has been done so many times before. Why even does a movie about anarchy and self-destruction make any sense? But the ending kind of eased the deception.
It's like that movie the 7th sense. When I entered the theater somebody told me 'Bruce est un mort'. Once you know that, there is not much of a movie left. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 08/04/2003 : 09:54:14
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Originally posted by axel
bad pumpin song!
I loved Fight Club until the whole split character thing became obvious. It has been done so many times before. Why even does a movie about anarchy and self-destruction make any sense? But the ending kind of eased the deception.
It's like that movie the 7th sense. When I entered the theater somebody told me 'Bruce est un mort'. Once you know that, there is not much of a movie left.
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Letsmeknife
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Posted - 08/08/2003 : 18:32:10
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First of all, let me second (or third) the motion that fight club is a great movie. And it is what got me into the pixies. I heard the song, got the tabs, then started playing it in my band. Before I knew it, I became addicted. At first I thought that Nirvana was the greatest band ever. Now I know its the pixies.
If you want a good movie, watch Donnie Darko, its takes a while before you get it, though |
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pixie punk
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Posted - 08/09/2003 : 10:31:32
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| Hello to all Frank Black fans! This is my first post! Another excellent movie that has Where Is My Mind is The Adventures of Sebastian Cole.Check in you local Blockbuster in the Drama section to see if they have it,highly recommended! I collaborate in the best and most complete Pixies site in the net Alec Eiffel(based in France). www.membres.lycos.fr/alec I have the Spanish section and translations of all Pixies Spanish lyrics.I'm from Puerto Rico and as you might know Frank spend some time down here before forming the Pixies and has many references to the island in his lyrics(ex. Isla De Encanta).If you are not familiar with the site I hope you like it! To the administrators of this site I must say Good Job! I will visit frequently that's sure.Anxiously awaiting the new Frank Black album and Pixies New best of(studio and live)and the Pixies DVD to be released in September by 4AD. Adios Amigos! |
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