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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 07/21/2003 : 14:40:07
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I seem to recall reading somewhere that FB's brother Errol runs a bar somewhere in the US, with loads of Frank Black records on the juke box. Can anybody expand upon this?
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are. |
Edited by - Devils Islander on 07/21/2003 14:41:21 |
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2003 : 15:18:48
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yea...a bar in cape cod, i think....pixies and frank black memorabilia, etc....dunno the name though
"Cigarettes are within reach...Now its time to really read the books I've always pretended to have read." |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 07/21/2003 : 16:05:28
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| that would be nice to know.. definitely something to check out if you're ever traveling through that way.. |
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =
USA
2677 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2003 : 16:27:50
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| It's called the Quarterdeck Lounge and it's in Hyannis, MA. (Note that Frank was wearing a shirt from there at the London show.) |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 07/21/2003 : 16:28:59
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| cool. next time i'm in MA (never) i'll definitely check it out. |
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2003 : 17:11:13
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If anyone ever goes there, you should walk in and say to him: "Show Me Your Beers" and he'll either give you a drink on the house or pour Whiskey in Your Face for being so lame.
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Edited by - ProverbialCereal on 07/21/2003 17:11:58 |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2003 : 19:39:50
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Derek, that's fucking terrific...hilarious!
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Bone Machine
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1140 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2003 : 22:47:44
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i wonder if someone on the board is gonna donate now. thatd be quite wierd.
-miked |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2003 : 22:53:09
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| Weird to have two boys that are both IV's. I don't think that's even possible. Doesn't your dad have to have the same name for you to have a number? |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2003 : 23:36:45
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Originally posted by mdisanto
i wonder if someone on the board is gonna donate now. thatd be quite wierd.
-miked
that would not only be weird but inappropriate..
i feel weird even reading that.. it's a bit on the personal side, no? |
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2003 : 12:36:39
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Meanwhile, Errol Thompson, the owner of the Quarterdeck in Hyannis, has met with the Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts to discuss the issue. He is still waiting for the organization to decide whether it will take up his cause.
Thompson is the bar owner who originally left the decision to smoke up to his patrons. While he told them about the new ban, he also left ashtrays out. Thompson ceased that practice after the Patriot reported his act of civil disobedience.
After the story came out, Thompson said, the Quarterdeck was visited by four Barnstable cruisers, two at the back door and two at the front. He said the police checked his licenses, looking for some sort of infraction, and then left. Thompson said health director Tom McKean threatened to take his license if smoking continued in his bar.
As a result, Thompson got rid of the ashtrays. Smoking is now allowed only on the deck behind the bar, after the board of health had Thompson remove every other slat out of the fence surrounding it, for ventilation. Thompson received permission this week from the licensing authority to allow alcohol on the deck as well.
"The smoking regulation is devastating this town," he said.
Business is down all over town, said Thompson. At the Quarterdeck, he said, lottery sales have dropped $2,000 to $3,000 a week, and Keno at the VFW is down $1,000 a day.
"If business continues to be devastated as it is, I will have to allow smoking again," said Thompson, but for now, he will continue to "lay low."
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =
USA
2677 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2003 : 13:14:20
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I'm sorry. I wish I'd never posted the name of the bar.
I've come across the smoking ban article before and it raises some interesting issues. However, I'm really uncomfortable with things like posting/discussing an obituary. I mean, it's one thing to talk about stuff that Frank has brought up in interviews, but it seems like an invasion of privacy to speculate about this private event of which there is a public record. Anyway, maybe it's just me, but when I find stuff like this, I just file it away under "This is too personal and I don't need to know this." |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2003 : 13:37:21
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| I have to agree with mereubu (shocking, no?) - it's all just a little too INSIDE for me. |
Edited by - ramona on 07/22/2003 13:51:07 |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2003 : 13:47:03
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can somebody lock this topic?
I mean some topics are locked for less serious reasons
I feel like this is none of our bussiness
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2003 : 15:22:35
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| or just delete it |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2003 : 16:46:29
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I'm sorta torn. Yeah, it's rather unnecessary, but everything is totally public domain, etc..
I dunno, Jim - you're welcome to lock this, i'm not too hung up either way. |
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2003 : 18:39:21
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Locking it wouldn't do much cuz people could still read it. I guess it would soon make it's way down to the bottom of the thread list and people would forget about it though.
-Derek |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2003 : 18:47:51
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I don't understand why this is all of the sudden a big issue...I remember back when his father died how this issue was discussed briefly on the AbstractPlain (he died on in a white water rafting accident, if I recall correctly). Yes it's a personal issue, but the information is made public (as most obituaries are). It's certainly very sad...I don't think it needs further discussion, nor does it need to be deleted/locked for any reason. Carry on.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 07/23/2003 : 01:21:36
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It's not like Frank has kept the his father's death secret. He wrote a song about it (Bullet) and told the story behind the song many times in concert.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2003 : 05:41:59
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ok
it's your call anyway
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =
Greece
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Posted - 07/23/2003 : 14:38:03
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It's kind of neat to hear about the bar though. I wonder if bands play there. That would be cool to play a show there. I'm definitely going to check it out someday.
How about some Ether? |
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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
411 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2003 : 02:26:04
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Originally posted by vilainde
It's not like Frank has kept the his father's death secret. He wrote a song about it (Bullet) and told the story behind the song many times in concert.
Wow. I've never heard this.
What was the story he told?
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 07/24/2003 : 02:46:41
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I don't remember the exact story, but I think Frank said that his father collected guns, and when he died, Frank and his brother went to his house to make some kind of inventory and discovered there was a single bullet loaded in each gun.
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2003 : 08:45:47
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are you not allowed to smoke in any bar in the us?
i am a non smoker but cannot image people not smoking in bars/ pubs. if you go into any pub in the uk theres always smoke billowing out, although thats probably not a good thing. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 07/24/2003 : 09:06:17
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California was the first place to do it (of course).. and the actually just passed the law in NY.. but there are still plenty of states where you can still smoke (and even bars in CA NY that still let you)..
even when i was a smoker i prefered the no smoking thing. at least in CA, you can always go outside and smoke on the patio or out front or whatever.. it's nice not to have your clothes smell like shit every time you go out (for multiple-wearing purposes) |
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
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Posted - 07/24/2003 : 09:17:11
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i do believe the anti smoking law is coming to ireland too next january - also i am unreliably informed that it will be over in amsterdam as well - which could spell the end for a lot of cafes over there. bill goodman - is this true fella?
Is your work done? Are all pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?....
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2003 : 09:53:04
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| Why can't the smoking policies be left to the proprietors? Nobody's forcing the nonsmokers to hang out with the smokers, and the employees are not being forced to work there. Why can't the fucking government stay out of everybody's fucking business? |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2003 : 11:08:53
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I think we've touched a nerve with Erebus. Like - why does the gov't have to tell those companies to stop spewing out all those chemicals?? People don't need to live in the Northern Hemisphere for fucks sake!
There's no smoking in any public place in Victoria (maybe BC?), and it's **great**. I refused to go to shows for the longest time because of this, and no business has been 'hurt' because of it. I know several who've benefitted.
This line tends to sum it up for me:
A smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a pool. |
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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2003 : 12:05:55
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On the Isle of Wight, small children are actively encouraged by their parents and teachers to smoke (untipped only) from an early age. A person's social status here is gauged by the brownness of their teeth and fingers. They still burn witches here as well; but only on St Leonard's day, when the annual "hagroast" is held.
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 07/24/2003 : 13:19:31
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Originally posted by Dave Noisy
Like - why does the gov't have to tell those companies to stop spewing out all those chemicals
A smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a pool.
Both of these responses typify the kind of arationality I've come to expect from the health nazis. The first is completely unrelated to the subject at hand. With smoking in public venues proprietors are quite welcome to establish nonsmoking policies and smokers can stay away or refrain from smoking, and vice versa. Companies' chemicals cross all kinds of boundaries and cannot reasonably be escaped. The two situations are not even remotely analogous. Regarding the second comment, if you don't like the piss in someone's private pool, you don't have to swim there.
What I can't understand is why anyone who presents such comments as relevant would even care about the longevity or quality of their lives. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2003 : 16:01:42
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Originally posted by Erebus
Companies' chemicals cross all kinds of boundaries and cannot reasonably be escaped.
i don't know if i understand what this sentence is supposed to mean..
i don't think you're a health-nazi because you care about your health. second hand smoke isn't good for you... i agree that ideally it should be the choice of the venue owner, but untimately it IS better for the good of most people, as a community, to have smoke-free environments.
i still smoke sometimes (i've been bad lately), but i'm thankful that when i go out i'm not constantly bombarded with it (like in Chicago)..
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 07/24/2003 : 17:02:12
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Originally posted by floop
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Originally posted by Erebus
Companies' chemicals cross all kinds of boundaries and cannot reasonably be escaped.
i don't know if i understand what this sentence is supposed to mean..
i don't think you're a health-nazi because you care about your health. second hand smoke isn't good for youi still smoke sometimes (i've been bad lately), but i'm thankful that when i go out i'm not constantly bombarded with it (like in Chicago)..
I mean that chemical emissions pollute broadly and hence it is sound policy to try to control them, whereas passive smoke is easily avoided and therefore less restriction is in order. But in the case of restaurants, bars, etc, private control should be permitted. Some restaurants can be smoke-free, others not. While I do believe that second-hand smoke can cause some harm, especially for those cohabiting with smokers, I don't trust ANY allegedly "scientific" studies on the harmful effects of second-hand smoke. Even worse is the way the press twists any such studies to fit with their prejudices. Political correctness is way over the top when it comes to smoking. Before too long parents will be prosecuted for smoking around their children. Then it will be made illegal for anyone to smoke where children can see them. Or to show smoking in movies, on TV. No, floop, they're not health nazis for caring about their own health, just when they impose that care upon others to the point of needlessly restricting individual liberty. |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
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Posted - 07/24/2003 : 17:11:13
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Passive smoke is easily avoided? Hey, factory smoke is easily avoided too, go spend some time in the Arctic.
"I don't trust ANY allegedly "scientific" studies on the harmful effects of second-hand smoke."
Wow, i'm sorry, but you are totally off the bus, Ere. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2003 : 22:25:27
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Originally posted by Erebus
What I can't understand is why anyone who presents such comments as relevant would even care about the longevity or quality of their lives.
Am I correct in interpreting this as, "If someone doesn't agree with my opinion, I don't know why they would want to live"?
I'll try to restrain myself from commenting further. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2003 : 04:04:20
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by Erebus
What I can't understand is why anyone who presents such comments as relevant would even care about the longevity or quality of their lives.
Am I correct in interpreting this as, "If someone doesn't agree with my opinion, I don't know why they would want to live"?
I'll try to restrain myself from commenting further.
Thank you for the restraint. It's not a matter of agreement or disagreement. Rather, it was intended as a comment upon the existence of those capable of offering such non sequitors as though they were actually logically appropriate responses. But I admit that I was thoroughly pissed off when I wrote it. As such it cannot withstand rigorous scrutiny. Obviously the vast majority of the animal kingdom manages to be quite motivated concerning the longevity and quality of their lives despite apparently being similarly incapable of offering much in the way of comment, relevant or otherwise. I suppose the comment to which you respond might be seen as similar to the vein of Socrates' "the unexamined life is not worth living". Again one could argue that most animals do not live what we would term "examined lives" in the sense of the observation attributed to Socrates, but nonetheless these same animals are obviously attached to their lives. One could even argue that it is precisely the "examined life" that is not worth living, not the contrary. |
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