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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
 Posted - 06/14/2003 : 11:38:54
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OK, so this has been done to death for other types of art, but what about gaming. I'm not talking about the gazillion first person shooters out there which are all the same and derivative, nor about the million-and-one 'tycoon' games after the huge success of Rollercoaster Tycoon. I'm talking about the really well done gems where the designers seemed more concerned with making a great game than getting it shipped as soon as possible.
Some that come to mind are Grim Fandango, Max Payne (first person shooter, but with a lot of class and atmosphere). Of course there are many more, especially classics from more than a few years ago when all of a sudden EVERYONE had a computer and no taste. But I want to hear others in case I've missed some. <under breath> not bloody likely. |
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JamesM
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/14/2003 : 11:45:03
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I'm more of a console gamer, but I have to bring this up: Maniac Mansion. A quite old adventure game from Lucas Arts. Witty, fun, and at times a little difficult (although once you know how to beat the game you'll never want to play it again; very little replay value). There was also a sequel released called Day of the Tentacle, which was supposedly very good, but I never got around to playing it.
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2003 : 12:11:40
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| Neverwinter Nights rocks my fucking world! I LOVE IT |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2003 : 12:14:10
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Play Day of the Tentacle, it is fantastic. About two hundred times better than Maniac Mansion, which was also awesome as you said. I've actually replayed Day of the Tentacle about 7 times (not back to back, but I reload it every now and again, just because I enjoy it so much). I hope that people pay for these good games as they do for good music.
I haven't played Neverwinter Nights... yet. |
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2003 : 17:37:18
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I absoultly love Nights for my now deceaced Saturn (it blew up last month ), you fly around courses in a kids dream world doing loops and tricks. But I have to say Rez (PS2) is the best game I've played in years, mind blowing graphics and great music. I had a demo of Grim Fandango for my PC, but never got round to playing it, it looked really cool. Panzer Dragoon Saga on the Saturn was also briilant, I had gotten to the fourth dick when the battery died in my Saturn and wiped all my saves!!!!!!!, that was a pisser.
"I meet a man with no little toe and a real big head" |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2003 : 19:51:57
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| I think Warcraft III is really great, if you like building armies on a fantasy scene, and attacking other armies. =) |
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GHutt
- FB Fan -
105 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2003 : 20:19:30
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| I had a lot of fun playing Freedom Force, and it was dirt cheap. Can't go wrong with a deal like that. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2003 : 22:20:39
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Ooooh, this is my kind of topic. I'm all about the gaming industry and how it's in a fucked up state. It's just become so overly commercialized (I guess it has always been since the days of Pac-Man) that it's more about making money than putting out quality. I'm a hardcore PC gamer and I really haven't fallen in love with any game lately. SimCity 4 was probably my last addiction (I played it for about 8+ hours a day straight for a little over a week), and even then I still don't think it's a great game...the old SimCitys were much more fun. First person shooters...Half-Life is still the best one ever made. There have been good ones since, but none of them as good. They have improved in quality, though. The games that try to avoid the "run run run gun find key gun gun gun run open door level end" formula usually turn out to be good. Online first person shooters are excellent because they are not an end product....they keep growing. I've played BF1942 for months till I got bored, then I downloaded the Desert Combat mod and now I'm playing the new Eve of Destruction mod. Games in general are getting a little better though...we'll see better voice acting and better stories in the future. There will always be shit quality games, from companies who are about exploiting a product license just to make money (very few games which use big name licenses like The Matrix or X-Men are actually good games). Then there will be the masterpieces, with excellent plots that actually drag you in. Fuck graphics, I need some prettiness but when 50% or more of your game's appeal is graphical, you have a problem. The only game I am truely waiting for this year is Half-Life 2, if it actually fuckin comes out.
Followups: Max Payne is a third person action game, not FPS. Maniac Mansion is fan-fucking-tastic. NWN bored the shit out of me...when you have enemy after enemy after enemy, holy shit that gets old. WarCraft III has one of the best storylines I've ever seen in a game...I loved it, it would make an excellent movie. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2003 : 00:32:58
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True on the Max Payne - my bad. I always think of the genre as FPS in general, since I don't think that the viewpoint is enough to necessitate it's own genre, but you are correct nevertheless.
I still go back to the really classic games with their 16/256 colour graphics and play them again, and still enjoy the hell out of them, so I can't say that I'm all about the latest graphics. It's cool to have and unacceptable for a game today to have really bad ones, but give me substance any day. I'll use the little demo that came with my video card when I want to show off hardware bump mapping with 3x Antialiasing at 1600x1200. If the game has graphics on top, gravy, but as long as the game's good, that's all it is. Certain games like racing sims need high end graphics because they'd be so bleeping boring otherwise, but it's not always necessary.
Pretty much any of the adventure games of old were good, in particular the LucasArts ones. Sierra used to make good adventures, too, but that ended with King's Quest 6. Any LucasArts adventure has been a good one, though I guess I didn't care for Loom. I'd like another crack at the Indiana Jones one, too, but can't find those anymore. And who could forget the venerable Monkey Island series, or the first Rebel Assault, or ...
Half Life was one of the best FPS's out there, very innovative in the way that Doom was back in the day, a much more open architecture that let people like me play and create all sorts of crazy mods. And Civilization is probably cemented for the moment as one of the greatest games of all time. We play it at work (well, Freeciv) on breaks, and I love it still, though I've played it so many times before. Sid Meier, you genius.
I've also heard a lot of great things of Sierra's Gabriel Knight, but I continue to boycott them (except for Half-Life, which I NEEDED, but to be fair, Sierra's just the publisher) since they stole an idea of mine and refused to credit me back in the day. And Full Throttle was awesome, looking forward to the sequel this summer. I even have a few Gone Jackals tracks on my computer, just because it brings me back to the game.
That is all for now... I do want to try Freedom Fighter though. Also, if anyone wants to check out Chris Sawyer's previous opus to Rollercoaster Tycoon, check out Transport Tycoon. This was before the days when the word was so abused that it bled into games where there is no tycoonery to be found, and once you get going, is consistently addictive in a similar way to Civ. Actually, I could go for a game of that right now... |
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
565 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2003 : 02:13:01
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velvety
= Cult of Ray =
Portugal
536 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2003 : 03:32:21
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Humans is an amazing game. You can find it in those classic games sites. Itīs similar to Lemmings in that you have to figure out a way for one member of your tribe to reach the goal of the level with the help of the other members.
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2003 : 13:59:13
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Originally posted by El Barto
NWN bored the shit out of me...when you have enemy after enemy after enemy, holy shit that gets old.
Yeah, the official campaign in the game was nothing amazing compared to the likes of Baldur's Gate II or whatever.
But where NWN shines is ONLINE, man! Multiplayer is what the game was truly made for......and for old-school D&D buffs NWN is a wet dream come true. I am making a huge mod in the toolset at the moment, when its released i'll let you know...you can download it and give it a look-see.
And I tell you this...it's definitely not a Diablo-clone hack-fest like so much of the official game is. |
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JamesM
= Cult of Ray =
308 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2003 : 14:14:04
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Baldur's Gate II is fuckin' great, and the first Masters of Orion is a classic; I haven't played the new one but I've heard it's a bummer. Who the shit remembers the Hugo Trilogy? Which were just so incredibly easy and laughably bad when they first came out that they were fun. Commander Keen, anyone? Damn, that was a great series. iD Software went on to greater success with Doom, but Commander Keen always has a place in my heart.
Also - what about Epic Megagames' early days? They were mainly a PC game company that specialized in arcade-type games. They did a lot of shit (some fighting game starring robots that sucked, and an early Cliff Blewhatever game called Jazz Jackrabbit, which was Sonic the Hedgehog with a fucking gun), but they also released Tyrant, which was a great, great shoot 'em up.
I grew up in arcades and in front of a console (and to a lesser extent, a computer), so all of my early (and quite a few latter day) childhood memories somehow relate back to videogames. What an exciting child I was. Was anyone else hooked on console/arcade gaming? Castlevania, Super Mario Bros., Final Fantasy? All great games, man.
Oh, one little addendum: Cult of Frank - care to elaborate on what idea Sierra stole from you? I've actually have never been a really big fan of Sierra's (King's Quest is just, uh, I dunno. It sucked. Sorry), so any dirt I could dig on them would be mucho grande appreciated.
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2003 : 14:42:42
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I wasted my childhood on Operation Wolf 
"I meet a man with no little toe and a real big head" |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2003 : 14:47:44
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Hugo's House of Horrors? Wow, I've played that. Commander Keen, Duke Nukem...those series' sucked a lot of my time away. There were these educational games called "Super Solvers" like Super Solvers Treasure Mountain...man, those were fun games. Wolf3D was a ton of fun too. I remember when we finally got a sound card for the 386, and my dad installed it one night. I woke up the next morning like it was Christmas and played a bit of Wolf before school and for the first time heard the Nazi's speak...Mein leiban!
My evolution of gaming began early around 2 with Atari 2600...then the wonderful NES, then I think the C64 came next, then SNES around the same time as a 386, then a Pentium, then PC gaming for life. No other console beats the NES anyway. The glory days of Nintendo were fucking huge, and I would have to say probably the #1 or #2 days of my gaming life. The biggest game for me (and probably several thousand other kids), no doubt, was Super Mario Bros 3. Anyone else remember when it came out? Shit, you couldn't rent it for months...it was sold out everywhere. I begged anyone I knew who actually had it...BEGGED AND PLEADED just to play it...holy shit I remember the rush the first time I played it. Video games fucking rule. |
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steveplymouthuk
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
639 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2003 : 15:34:44
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Has anyone else ever played 'normality'? It was a 3d point and click adventure which was genuinely funny throughout, and there were different paths through the game so it was wee worth the replay hours wasted. i think it was from about '96.
and day of the tentacle was excellent |
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2003 : 19:55:22
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A great game for wasting your time is Blade Runner on the PC!!. I started out on the Atari 7800, then a Megadrive (Genisis for you Amerians) and God bless it's soul, the poor ould Sega Saturn, then N64, since that I've been too lazy to buy a console, played mostly PC games, Qauke, Jedi Knight, Half Life) . Does anyone remember Polterguy for the Megadrive, great game! Can't believe know one played Nights, best game ever (well, in my esteem)
"I meet a man with no little toe and a real big head" |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2003 : 21:14:26
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Heh, this is crazy. So many games listed. I actually am playing through the Commander Keens as we speak (I have 'em all on my pooter at the moment), I did play a few of the Supersolvers & Carmen Sandiego games back in grade 5, Duke Nukem 3D was big when I was in high school - I installed it on the school network and killed all sorts of people every noon hour until a teacher found out you could pay strippers to take their shirts off - and of course Masters of Orion 2 (I never played the original, but 2 was awesome). And of course, the NES classics like Mario and Zelda, and so on. It's cool that so many are gamers, though you will notice not a single female post as of yet. Someday...
As for the Sierra story, well, my cousin and I used to get together and finish the latest Sierra games, Space Quest (best was 3, though 4 was not bad), Police Quest (best was 2), King's Quest (best was either 3 or 6), Larry (our parent's didn't know what that annoying sound was on the phone when we were downloading such games), and so on. Anyway, we'd play games and talk about what could have been done, and we sent them a letter about twice a year with an idea for a computer game, just thinking it'd be cool if they used it and our names were in the credits. These writing sessions usually came after we finished a game of theirs. So we finished Space Quest 3, and were working on King's Quest 3 (which we got a little late, if I recall), and were stuck. We wrote a letter to the hint department at Sierra (the Internet not being in our vocabulary for another 5 years), and with that letter we wrote a whole lot of ideas for a cool football game.
Yes, it wasn't totally novel, it's not a from-scratch sort of a thing, but it had a lot of good ideas and things that could be done better to make the football games more career-oriented and less single-match. We got an acknowledgment letter, which I believe my cousin still has, with the hints for KQ3, but nothing for the football game signed by Pat Cook. A few years later, out comes Front Page Sports Football with almost EVERY IDEA of ours used. When we saw the ads for the game, both of us rushed to buy it so we could see our names in the credits, but nothing. We wrote a letter asking why we weren't in the credits to Ken Williams, at that time the CEO, and received an "all letters, submissions, etc, are the property of Sierra On-Line" reply from some lawyer, saying that Ken was currently promoting something somewhere else and regretted being unable to answer the letter personally.
But we knew they had taken our ideas and made a hit game that was met with positive reviews everywhere, although we had no confirmation of it until... a few more years later, I received my copy of InterAction, the Sierra quarterly magazine, which had an article on how to get into gaming. That being my dream, I read all about it and they were giving examples of people working in other areas and moving into design, and one example was non other than Pat Cook, who moved from the hint department to design when he came up with some great ideas for a new football game. Bah! Whether he took our ideas for his own or whether Sierra knew about it, the fact is that they had stolen our idea, although in the end all that matters is that WE know that we were part of it. Just sort of a crummy thing to do to a couple 12 year olds. And that's my story.
Which reminds me, did anyone get taken in by Sierra's mega-scam Outpost? So much promise, so little delivery. |
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Scarla O
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
947 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2003 : 03:20:01
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Grim Fandango is a fantastic game! I thoroughly recommend that one.
I've just finished 'The Longest Journey' which is another point and click adventure game, it starts off slow but builds up into a very good game.
Lots of people have disagreed with me in the past about this one, but I thought that 'The Nomad Soul' was a truly excellent game.
Unreal Tournament 2003 is pretty fine...On one of the maps (in the forest with the jump pads) if you turn up all of the graphics but turn off all the sound-effects leaving the soundtrack on, you can spend hours in a blissed out state shooting missiles into the canopies and bouncing from pad to pad...it's beautiful and addictive.
Other than that, I had a Dreamcast and Shenmue I and II, Phantasy Star Online and Skies Of Arcadia were all superb groundbreaking games.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2003 : 07:11:00
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I used to love playing little crappy games on the PC when I was just a kid. I got my first console around 6 years ago when I got an N64. I got a PS2 christmas 2001, but I got bored of it and the games available after about 6 months, and got a Gamecube :D
I stopped myself from getting new games while I was doing my exams, but my last one is tomorrow so I'm getting Metroid and Zelda, two absolute gems that I've missed out on until now.
I've never really been a fan of PC gaming, though I do own Half Life which is very good. |
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2003 : 12:08:07
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Grim Fandango is the best game I've ever played.
Curse of Monkey Island is also very good. All of the Lucasarts adventure games are worth playing. I've played all of them a couple times through pretty much.
Jedi Knight and Jedi Outcast are both excellent FPS. The saber battles in Outcast are really exciting. I would quicksave nearly everytime I'd run into an evil Jedi so I could replay the battle again and again, even after I'd won.
The games that consumed the bulk of my childhood were Ninja Gaiden, Mike Tyson's Punch-Out, and Yars Revenge. Ninja Gaiden is the perfect game for ADD kids because it's non-stop action.
If any of you have a SNES or SNES emulator you've got to play Secret of Mana. It's like Zelda but with weapon proficiencies, some RPG elements, and 3 player cooperative play. Eventually, you find a dragon that you can fly on and travel across the entire globe and land almost anywhere. It's an extremely good game to play with your spouse because it's easy to learn and cooperative.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2003 : 12:47:57
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| I loved River Raid and Enduro for Atari back in the day. I also loved Adentures of Lolo for NES. One of the great puzzle games. I played that game until my NES locked up due to over heating. Jedi Outcast was awesome, those saber fights were great. Fighting along side Luke is every fanboys dream. Punch Our ruled, as did Super Punch Out, I revisited that with as SNES emulator and it's still really fun. Contra was THE game back in the day, those guns ruled. I really want to try Splinter Cell, it looks really good. Rainbow Six was a great game. And of course, Half Life was (and is) amazing. |
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GHutt
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 06/16/2003 : 17:13:31
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| LucasArt's adventure games are awesome! I'm looking forward to Sam and Max 2 and Full Throttle 2. I should really get back into the originals. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2003 : 17:48:34
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| Yeah, I haven't rescued that Sasquatch in ages... but I did play Full Throttle again about a year ago. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2003 : 20:05:12
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| A4C: A friend of mine had the Secret of Mana cart years ago and we would get together and play it. We got pretty far in the game and the game got wiped...ARGH. Then we started over, got pretty far, and he moved to Alaska. The game is left unfinished. It's a great game, though. Emulation is excellent. I have about 15GB of ROMs from a number of systems (NES, SNES, Genesis, MAME, Gameboy...), some are complete collections of all available ROMs for that system |
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2003 : 07:16:14
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Did anyone ever own a Atari Jaguar or a 3DO, doomed concoles but with one or two classic games that have become cult classics?
"I meet a man with no little toe and a real big head" |
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1439 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2003 : 07:19:21
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by the way.. if anyone is bored try
www.fhm.com
and click on the 100 best games box. some blasts from the past like pacman and that brilliant tank hunter game. scorchio! |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2003 : 15:10:53
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Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics
If any of you have a SNES or SNES emulator you've got to play Secret of Mana.
Oh man, i had a blast with that game back in the day. I don't know if i could go back and play it now (it's a little dated graphics- and gameplay-wise, at least compared to what i'm used to these days) but i remember thinking it was excellent back in the day. It was loads of fun, and had a good amount of RPG elements mixed in there. Reminds me of the addictiveness I felt when playing Final Fantasy 7, back when that was new.
good stuff...definitely recommended if you've never played it before. |
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2003 : 21:00:32
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Originally posted by PsychicTwin
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Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics
If any of you have a SNES or SNES emulator you've got to play Secret of Mana.
Oh man, i had a blast with that game back in the day. I don't know if i could go back and play it now (it's a little dated graphics- and gameplay-wise, at least compared to what i'm used to these days) but i remember thinking it was excellent back in the day. It was loads of fun, and had a good amount of RPG elements mixed in there. Reminds me of the addictiveness I felt when playing Final Fantasy 7, back when that was new.
good stuff...definitely recommended if you've never played it before.
My fiance and I played it through last year and it seemed as fun as ever!
I have a nice emulation CD with every friggen game ever made for every friggin system ever made. It takes up about 300Mb. It's amazing how many completely unplayable games were made for Nintendo. Still, you can't beat Tecmo Super Bowl, Ninja Gaiden, or Bionic Commando.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2003 : 14:12:44
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| Every game ever made for every system ever made in 300MB? You must be missing a *LOT*, in 15GB I don't have everything yet...N64 games alone take up 30MB a piece at least. |
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JamesM
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/18/2003 : 20:59:53
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Yeah, I totally agree with El Barto. My NES rom collection takes up about 120 or so mb's alone, so I somehow doubt the validity of that statement, A4C. Download every Neo Geo rom, every N64 rom, and every Turbo Grafix rom and tell me if they can all fit on CD. Uh, because they won't.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2003 : 22:30:13
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| Yeah, well I'll be the first to admit that gaming has suffered at the expense of things like: school, girlfriend, work, music. In that order, chronologically, and probably in reverse order as far as what overrode gaming the most. :) Guess that's why I'm single again, though I did get a few pieces of paper from the university somehow... |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2003 : 07:27:27
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Originally posted by Pioneer
I don't know how you guys do it, play these games and remain productive human beings.
Heh.
I like to think i'm a productive human being who games, but then I am driven to question the validity of that statement when I sit down in front of my computer for what can easily be 6 or 7 hours straight.
I mean, shit, when Baldurs Gate came out I would wake up in the morning (this was when I was still in school, and didn't have a job) and just play ALL DAY. literally ALL DAY. from the instant I woke up to the point where I couldn't keep my eyes open any more in the evening (or wee hours of the morning as the case might be). Peeing was a necessity, unfortunately. Food was an option that was often forfeit. Getting up and doing something other than play the shit out of Baldur's Gate was NOT AN OPTION! and then......Baldurs Gate II came out.............
I have since weaned myself (somewhat) from my gaming addiction, but now and then I'll indulge myself to a crazy 7 or 8 hour session of Neverwinter Nights. and I picked up the new NWN expansion that was released yesterday (Shadows of Undrentide) so tonight might have to be one of those nights. |
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2003 : 07:39:06
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Originally posted by El Barto
Every game ever made for every system ever made in 300MB? You must be missing a *LOT*, in 15GB I don't have everything yet...N64 games alone take up 30MB a piece at least.
No, you're right. I was exaggerating.
It stops being all-inclusive around SNES when the game size actually breaks the 1Mb barrier. I don't think there are any systems after that, either.
I guess my point is that there are more games on there than any one human being can finish in a lifetime.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2003 : 08:54:40
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| I've wasted more hours and days on Sim City (2000, 3000 and 4) than I care to count. Really, that game was my addiction and changed the course of my life. I liked to so much I wanted to do it in real life. So here I sit in my office at City Hall, a Planning intern. Now if I could just find a way to play Sim City here.... |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2003 : 09:10:57
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Hmmm... yeah, if only more planners at the city had gone through the hours of SimCity that you & I have, maybe we'd still have decent flow across the river at rush hour. Or at least, three of the 4.5 bridges wouldn't all be under construction at the same time. And, you know, we'd have made contact with aliens in 1999, but they would shoot little plasma balls all over the city and then traffic would really be a nightmare. And suddenly we'd find ourselves on a major fault zone with earthquakes and volcanoes and trying desperately to find a place after our last one was bulldozed to make space for an overly sized novelty bus stop or excessively elevated freeway.
The freeways, which, incidentally, have almost no form of interchangability built in. Hmmm... maybe the city planners DID play too much SimCity. :) |
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