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gimmedead
- FB Fan -
USA
18 Posts |
 Posted - 04/01/2003 : 14:32:34
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| anyone else highly impressed with "i want rock n roll" on the current tour? frank seems extraordinarily into this song live. i was blown away, and now listening to the album rendition, i cannot believe he and the catholics recorded it the way they did! they're playing it with a lot more power on this tour. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2003 : 15:07:04
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| I nominate "I Want Rock n Roll" as best song/performance ever about r'n'r. Any other candidates? |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2003 : 22:32:48
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seriously, i want rock'n'roll was the highlight of the show. it blew me away.
other highlights: there goes nadine, jane the queen of love, bullet, and
RICH GILBERT! the man is like in his own world where he is the greatest guitar god ever. amazing.
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2008 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2003 : 03:17:18
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quote:
Originally posted by Erebus
I nominate "I Want Rock n Roll" as best song/performance ever about r'n'r. Any other candidates?
Rock Music. |
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Bartholomew
= Cult of Ray =
USA
344 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2003 : 05:52:34
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| You guys are right, I want rock and roll is exceptional live, so so on album. Definitely one of the highlights of the show. |
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Perhaps
- FB Fan -
133 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2003 : 06:48:00
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Absolutely blown away by the Rock tunes.
I would have to say, for the MIL. show at least, that ROCK'N'ROLL and 666 were on the same plain. That is just to say, they both equally kicked my ass.
But even the way the Pixies songs were done. They rocked liked I'd never heard them rock before (in fairness, I never saw the Pixies live). As my running joke goes, it seems those songs have finally been baptized (yeah, I know...).
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2003 : 08:19:03
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I am glad someone mentioned this. This is an awesome song that, although I still love the recorded version, seems to kick gigantically large ass when they perform it live.
It is definitely a signature song for this band and their outlook on R&R.
I was very glad I saw it live.
"Winter blows through my coat"
the what four http://www.mp3.com/phelan |
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Steak n Sabre
* Dog in the Sand *
Uzbekistan
1013 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2003 : 13:22:25
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| After hearing 'I Gotta Move" done solo, I've re-discovered it's brillance. Bullet was also superb. Does anyone remember Lyle Workman? Lol..... Rich is an outstanding player, and it's always fun to watch him work. |
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FrequencyOfGlow
- FB Fan -
USA
157 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2003 : 14:40:46
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Yes, I too was absolutely blown away by I Want Rock and Roll! It has always been a good song, but now I have really started to listen to it again and again. I saw Frank in Chicago at the Double Door and stood right at Frank's feet (as I do every show in Chicago) anyway, I was rockin out so hard during IWRAR, I nearly passed out. Luckily I had the stage to hang on to. Of all songs to be most impressed by, I never would have guessed.
I like that lemur, I lick it. That's velvety! |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2003 : 21:54:01
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| In Regina, Frank was so into I Want Rock 'n' Roll that he fell when rocking backwards on top of the monitor - the song rocks so hard live that it scares me. Other good candidates for songs that are way better live are Jane the Queen of Love and Hermaphroditos. There's also no way that the album version of Nadine will be able to compete with the live version, but here's hoping anyway. IWRAR has definitely moved up 17 or so notches in my personal FB rankings. |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 05:38:01
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| Yeah, IWRAR and Jane are two songs that are much better live. Another choice for me would be "I Switched You". |
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 07:01:05
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Originally posted by Itchload
Yeah, IWRAR and Jane are two songs that are much better live. Another choice for me would be "I Switched You".
I agree Switchload. I Switched You is probably my favorite song on what I think is turning out to be my fav FB album, Pistolero.
I am starting to think, out of all the albums, this is thee one. |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 07:54:15
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interesting that pistolero is your favorite - most people i know think thats the worst of the catholics era albums. i think it has some great standout tracks, but as a whole is probably the weakest catholics release. that or devil's workshop
-brian
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 08:12:28
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| I agree about Jane - and I also REALLY loved Farewell Bend live, although I can't say it techinally "rocked" - but it was very cool. |
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 08:48:11
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Originally posted by Broken Face
interesting that pistolero is your favorite - most people i know think thats the worst of the catholics era albums. i think it has some great standout tracks, but as a whole is probably the weakest catholics release. that or devil's workshop
-brian
as breathing flows my mind secedes...
And I used to think the same myself. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I think this is the hardest rocking album. Maybe I am leaning a bit more towards the rock lately and that album brings it definitely.
Am I wrong or crazy? |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 09:14:14
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| You know what always gets me - I look at the brown album and I almost never listen to it because none of the songs really stick out as great ones, so I usually throw in DITS or TOTY or BLD or pretty much anything else. And then I eventually think that I should just listen to it again and it's awesome. It's happens EVERY time I think about putting it in. Strange. |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 12:54:47
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it is definetely the most "rocking." we're all entitled to our opinion, and i've too been on a pistolero kick lately - i just think its still the weakest. that being said, its still tons better than cult of ray.
-brian
as breathing flows my mind secedes... |
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 13:21:08
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Cult of Ray is the awkward teenage geek that grew up to be Frank Black and The Catholics.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 13:35:37
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Cult of Ray isn't that bad... come on, Men In Black, Cult of Ray, Last Stand of Shazeb, Adventure/Resolution, Jesus Was Right? It's not my favourite, but it certainly isn't as awful as some seem to think.
" ... I like distortion ... "
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 14:22:04
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its not awful, its just frank's worst, if you ask me - i love a few tracks off the album, if it was cut down to a 6 song EP it'd be great- excellent analogy swimmer...
-brian
as breathing flows my mind secedes... |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6194 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 15:09:57
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Cult of Ray:
I love it when you pan one guitar far left and the other one far right.
But Lyle Workman just plays anoying on some tracks. That's not because he's a bad player (hell no), but I think it's due production.
On FB and The C's and Pistolero there's still the left/right thing
but it still sounds solid. When Lyle hits the solo on COR there just seems something wrong. Don't know, must be the sound.
I almost never listen to it, but it's not a bad album.
I just don't like the production. Nick Vincent as a producer is great...Pistolero,DITS,BLD perfect...
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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gimmedead
- FB Fan -
USA
18 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 16:47:53
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| pistolero has always been my favorite fb album. and before it came out, the crown was bestowed upon his self-entitled. |
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *
1036 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 17:35:20
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I love the Cult of Ray. I think it's an amazing album. The two weakest tracks are Punk Rock City and I Don't Want to Hurt You but I still like em.
Kicked in the Taco through Cult is a great sequence of songs, paticularly the shift from Dance War to Cult. Wow. It's too bad they don't play the title track live.
Last Stand of Shazeb Andleeb is such a sad track with some beautiful guitar playing, the whole ending is a perfect match with the lyrics; giving off a sense of ascension. A sad song.
The Marsist is just a great opening track, leading right into Men In Black. Jesus, Men in Black, Adventure, Mosh, etc...I love em all.
I was surprised when I first read others opinions of this album; it often seems to be dismissed as a lesser work; to me, it's just like its brothers...one of the greats.
cheers |
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *
1036 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 17:36:38
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| Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, I love panning left and right (on most albums in general) and focusing on Lyle's playing. Sweet noise. |
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Spartacus
- FB Fan -
Australia
84 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2003 : 21:26:37
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| Kicked In The Taco blew me away the first time I heard it....and nothing has changed. |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2003 : 06:40:54
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I think Cult of Ray is a great album. Lyle is a really skilled guitar player who can just really rip shit up...I could see how some people might find his solo-style a tad cheesy though (let's face it, the guy scores for movies and stuff...session guitarists like Lyle gotta have a touch of the cheese to be "marketable" or something.) But altogether, Cult has some damn awesome songs on it! My favorites are Men in Black, Jesus Was Right, Mosh, and Kicked ----> Cult of Ray (Arm Arm Arm is so right on that one).
Oh, and for the record: Pistolero is definitely my favorite Frank Black album. I shudder to think that some fans actually find it to be the WEAKEST! are we listening to the same album here???? |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2003 : 10:48:28
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| I'm not sure that I could pick a weakest album period... I always thought it was the brown album, because I look at the track lists and none of the songs seem to jump out at me, but then you put it in and it rocks too. But, there's no way it's FB, TOTY is probably up there as best album, I love Cult too, maybe not as much as the first two solos, but it's still great, the brown is fun too, not Pistolero, DEFINITELY not DITS, not BLD or DW, so I guess that since I haven't heard it, the new album must be the weakest. If I had to choose out of existing ones, I suppose I would hesitantly say brown, but with some serious reservations. |
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echo park
- FB Fan -
Saint Barthelemy
128 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2003 : 21:07:13
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[i] I suppose I would hesitantly say brown, but with some serious reservations.
OK, which one is the brown one again? |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2003 : 01:49:48
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| That's the first FB&C's album (self-titled) with the clay dudes doin' their thing. |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2003 : 07:37:33
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i've recently been on the brown (FB&the C's) kick and i think thats turning out to be my second fav Catholics-era album right behind DITS. But my tastes in these things change a lot because all the albums are so good. on further listening i might revise my statement that pistolero was the weakest Catholics album and say that DW is. It's high points are VERY high, but b/c its so short, the tracks that aren't so great stick out like a sore thumb, like are you headed my way and the scene. out of 11 songs, i'd say 7 are really great, and the other four leave a lot to be desired.
that being said, its still one of the best albums of 2002. not many albums have that high a success rate, so don't think i'm bashing FB or anything. its just that on this forum we have the great oppurtunity to discuss this stuff at length with people who are equaly knowlegable about it, its great to get into some deep critical discussions of FB's work.
-brian the nerd
as breathing flows my mind secedes... |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6194 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2003 : 15:46:18
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Orange and Brown
I do believe Cult Of Frank has introduced the nick names
of FB and FB and the C's. RESPECT!
Not to be an ass but are you a Weezer fan?
you know Blue,Pink (which is black actually) and Green?
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2003 : 10:33:38
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indeed i am, and i'm personally a pink man
-brian
as breathing flows my mind secedes... |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2003 : 11:31:54
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| <in Austin Powers voice> Ah-thank-you. I thought that orange/brown were generally accepted, but I'm happy to bring enlightenment to the masses. :) I do like Weezer, but I wouldn't say I'm a fan - I really don't own any of their stuff, though I have enjoyed listening to it when others play it. I was unaware of their colour schemes until now, but having heard of it just now, I can only assume they ripped me off. :) |
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uaintme
- FB Fan -
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 14:59:27
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| gotta move and all my ghosts were my favs when i saw him a couple weeks ago. i don't remember him playing that one.... |
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