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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =

USA
287 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2003 :  10:42:03  Show Profile  Visit frankblackphx's Homepage
Straight from the source.


Hi Sarah,

I am part of the Frank Black street team for you here in Phoenix. I just wanted to drop a line real quick to see if you have any information on a release date for a new Frank Black album. I have been hearing a lot of rumors that he has one "in the can."

Thanks a lot,

Dan Drago



Hi Dan,

The rumors are true - while I don't think it's been mastered yet or
anything, the new album is pretty much done. We're looking at a
September release date!

Sarah

I can't wait for the new album.



I got me so down I got me a headache.

mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =

USA
2677 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2003 :  11:21:59  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage
Woo-hoo! You rock, Dan!
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2003 :  16:41:03  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
Gravy!

International Air Guitar Hitman
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2003 :  05:28:37  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address
woohoo!

~you will get used to me, welcome to your new joy
Heloise by FB&TC
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =

Greece
675 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2003 :  09:52:43  Show Profile  Visit misterwoe's Homepage
Do guys really think it'll be out by September? That would awesome.

How about some Ether?
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2003 :  12:04:34  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
dave phillips told me in pittsburgh september was the release date as well. thats three albums in just over a year. not too shabby at all

brian

as breathing flows my mind secedes...
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2003 :  21:04:41  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
quote:
thats three albums in just over a year. not too shabby at all

brian




And yet, it's never enough . . .

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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2003 :  03:42:47  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
yah it was supposed to come out in march before. whatever happened to the album with 5 covers, was that scratched?

-miked
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =

USA
377 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2003 :  20:31:55  Show Profile  Click to see spunXtain's MSN Messenger address
so the new album is called "Madams at Nine"? hadn't heard that before.. hmm

I'm lost and I am lonesome to the core...
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2003 :  23:54:52  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address
this is whats posted on the cooking vinyl talkback page (franks uk distributor):
The New FB release is called'Show Me your Tears' and at the moment is due for release 8th September 2003. If we hear anything about any tour in the UK or Europe rest assured it will be straight on this page & in the tours section of the site. Thanks!!


~you will get used to me, welcome to your new joy
Heloise by FB&TC
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2003 :  07:58:31  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
hey I asked that question on the cooking vinyl page!

DON'T STEAL MY THUNDER!

No really, I had forgotten that I asked that on that page, thanks!

Great News!


''it's not a box, it's a submarine''
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Bohemoth
- FB Fan -

USA
246 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2003 :  08:24:54  Show Profile
It's slated for15 tracks I believe for now but managment wants to cut 2 songs Including hard rocking number don't clip your wings.
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clemray
- FB Fan -

58 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2003 :  09:16:01  Show Profile
Bohemoth and others.......

I don't know about you all, but i would sure like to hear some more "hard rocking numbers". maybe we can convince managment to include them.
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2003 :  14:36:11  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

hey I asked that question on the cooking vinyl page!

DON'T STEAL MY THUNDER!

No really, I had forgotten that I asked that on that page, thanks!

Great News!


''it's not a box, it's a submarine''


i was checking on the offchance... i had given up checking every other day for any news, i just so happened to pop by today and was glad to see SOME info !

~you will get used to me, welcome to your new joy
Heloise by FB&TC
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echo park
- FB Fan -

Saint Barthelemy
128 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2003 :  20:06:24  Show Profile
who is "management"? I have trouble imagining this. It seems like the man himself has been at the helm on the last several albums.

I'm fascinated at how these albums are made so I appreciate reading this stuff!
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  00:16:51  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
He still has management...Ken Goes is still his manager, right? The job of the manager is to take care of the business aspect. I know Scott Boutier is the tour manager...they have their own sound guy...and they have a producer (whose name escapes me right now) that is working on their new album and I believe has worked with them in the past.
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  04:29:54  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by El Barto

He still has management...Ken Goes is still his manager, right? The job of the manager is to take care of the business aspect. I know Scott Boutier is the tour manager...they have their own sound guy...and they have a producer (whose name escapes me right now) that is working on their new album and I believe has worked with them in the past.


Nick VIncent ?
Matt Yelton ?


~you will get used to me, welcome to your new joy
Heloise by FB&TC
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  08:00:32  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
i thought i read that stan ridgway (who played a bit on DW) was producing the new record

as breathing flows my mind secedes...
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  10:15:16  Show Profile
i thought Ben Murphy worked on it (who produced BLD and DW), in addition to others.. it sounds like the album was recorded in bits and pieces, with different people etc..

i can't fucking wait
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  12:40:54  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Stan Ridgeway, that's the one I was looking for. Nick Vincent has produced em in the pass...come to think of it, I'm pretty sure never produced any of his albums alone.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  13:18:34  Show Profile
i think Cult Of Ray was self-produced. if memory serves me correctly (i'm not with my CD's at the moment)..
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  13:18:57  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
cult of ray - produced by frank black alone

as breathing flows my mind secedes...
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  14:21:23  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
I'm so embarresed, I think I don't like the COR production at all...


''it's not a box, it's a submarine''
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  14:59:26  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
i don't like the way COR sounds for the most part - some people are naturally producers, some aren't - frank is a great songwriter/performer, but not a producer. or at least not by himself

-brian

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  15:10:39  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
I heard from somewhere, I think, that Frank's wife has convinced him to go with more obvious meanings, but I have no idea if this is true (and I certainly don't want to perpetuate rumours). I really hope I'm wrong though, but I'm curious if anyone else heard this. I much prefer being able to work at a meaning and even come up with my own interpretation, rather than having it just given to me. If it is true though, to her credit, she apparently is also the reason that we have lyrics in the CDs, which I am more than thankful for. It's not like Frank is known for using exclusively everyday words. :)
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echo park
- FB Fan -

Saint Barthelemy
128 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  21:02:01  Show Profile
Yes Stan has been producing, and Ben is engineering like a monster. The night I was there, it was 13 of us at once going live to stereo! Ben didn't seem the slightest bit frantic about the workload and he and Rich functioned as Stan's extended ears on the takes where Stan sang and/or played harmonica. Stan was really great at maintaining the vibe even after the 13th take or however many. I'm sure the Catholics are used to it but there were a lot of guests that night, many of us are more used to overdubbing our parts. I'm glad that wasn't the procedure cause I got to hang out with the whole band and a whole other awesome legendary fellow who guested too.

Lyrically, this one song was not at all cryptic, my girlfriend got the basic story after the 6th take or so. She asked Charles if it was what she thought, and he said she was right on and seemed delighted. That said, it is not bone-simple sledgehammer at all. It is beautiful and mysterious. It helped that we had lyric sheets... would not have figgerd it as quickly without. My girlfriend is a gifted lyricist herself.

Edited by - echo park on 04/07/2003 21:11:06
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echo park
- FB Fan -

Saint Barthelemy
128 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  21:05:46  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by El Barto

He still has management...Ken Goes is still his manager, right? The job of the manager is to take care of the business aspect.


Aye that. But would his BM (no slight intended) actually influence the musical choices? Maybe they're good friends.
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  21:34:07  Show Profile
I really like the Cult production, though I know i'm in the minority. I like the drum sound, really low, thumpa thumpa. And the 50's-ish reverb that crops up. I'm not sure I could handle more than one album sounding like it, but as it stands alone, I enjoy it.
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echo park
- FB Fan -

Saint Barthelemy
128 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2003 :  23:33:11  Show Profile
I like the FB - guitar left, Lyle - guitar right thing. Sometimes I pan hard left and listen to the song without all that racket! Just as often I'll go the other way and dig deep into the Work-man.

The Marsist is one of the craziest songs I can think of. It still blows my mind just to hear it in my head. I guess all this is going off topic now...
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2003 :  03:11:08  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
what did you play on those takes Echo Park?
which instrument?



''it's not a box, it's a submarine''
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2003 :  06:16:55  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I heard from somewhere, I think, that Frank's wife has convinced him to go with more obvious meanings, but I have no idea if this is true (and I certainly don't want to perpetuate rumours). I really hope I'm wrong though, but I'm curious if anyone else heard this. I much prefer being able to work at a meaning and even come up with my own interpretation, rather than having it just given to me. If it is true though, to her credit, she apparently is also the reason that we have lyrics in the CDs, which I am more than thankful for. It's not like Frank is known for using exclusively everyday words. :)



i don't think it had anything to do with his wife (though i don't really know)..

i remember around the time Pixies split, Frank talked a lot about how he wanted to start writing more linear stuff.. how it was actually harder to write linear songs and he wanted to get better at that..

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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =

Greece
675 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2003 :  09:09:44  Show Profile  Visit misterwoe's Homepage
Let's get back to the real issue. There are supposedly 15 tracks slated for the album, and management wants to cut two of them? Why? If the man wants the songs on the album then they belong there. Frank Black knows what he is doing. CAN I GET AN AMEN?!

How about some Ether?
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2003 :  09:44:16  Show Profile
AMEN BROTHER!!! SING IT LOUD!!!!
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Visiting Sasquatch
= Cult of Ray =

USA
451 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2003 :  11:32:03  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I heard from somewhere, I think, that Frank's wife has convinced him to go with more obvious meanings, but I have no idea if this is true (and I certainly don't want to perpetuate rumours). I really hope I'm wrong though, but I'm curious if anyone else heard this. I much prefer being able to work at a meaning and even come up with my own interpretation, rather than having it just given to me. If it is true though, to her credit, she apparently is also the reason that we have lyrics in the CDs, which I am more than thankful for. It's not like Frank is known for using exclusively everyday words. :)



Frankusblackus talks about your concerns here:

quote:
Originally posted by frankusblackus

Another factor is the lyric. I say "why bother?", but my wife insists that some of the fans really like the lyric sheets so I defer to her judgement

Edited by - Visiting Sasquatch on 04/08/2003 11:32:26
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echo park
- FB Fan -

Saint Barthelemy
128 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2003 :  18:27:27  Show Profile
hey bill - Stan called us in to sing backups on a song called Manitoba. My main thing is guitar textures, but I sure was glad for the vocal harmony experiences I've had in some of my bands recording sessions. Truth be told, Stan really wanted my girlfriend, who sings a lot and had a higher range than everyone else at the sessions, to help with the higher register. But as they decided to make the chorus backing vocals something like a small town church choir effect, Stan graciously extended the invitation to me as well. Can you imagine my mind - within a minute of entering the studio we were brought in to the lounge and given lyric sheets and asked to come up with vocal parts as Our Hero strummed and sang away on the sofa. Thank God I could still maintain a modicum of professionality. The vibe was so relaxed that I wasn't even nervous! Just stunned. It went really well. Hope it makes the album!
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2003 :  18:54:17  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
I'm really looking forward to hearing that one on the album. And, I reiterate from a post elsewhere, you are a lucky, lucky man.
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