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Jettison
- FB Fan -
USA
228 Posts |
 Posted - 03/07/2003 : 12:16:54
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I am having a debate on noaloha.com about whether or not Charles wrote Gigantic. What have you got?
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lofiscifi
- FB Fan -
USA
53 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2003 : 12:31:30
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i've seen it credited 2 different ways.... on surfer rosa i believe it's credited to just kim - on the gigantic single and death to the pixies it's credited to both kim and charles.
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2009 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2003 : 15:05:20
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FB said he came with the name "Gigantic" cause he thought the chord progression was so big,
so I assume Kim just wrote the lyrics. |
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MikeW
- FB Fan -
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2003 : 15:57:25
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| This is what I heard. Kim wrote Gigantic and Dave wrote LaLa Love, Make Believe. the only reason Francis is credited is because of the publishing, Rice n' Beans. I dont know the specifics behind it, or legal matters, but thats what I heard. Btw, I went over to that no aloha sight and Breeders fans have no class. A bunch of knucklehead Frank bashers. They need to learn to respect the "MAN". |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2003 : 13:24:40
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| Are you sure Dave wrote Make Believe? I don't think he did...I remember hearing that FB wrote it for Dave due to his obsession with Debbie Gibson |
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Robert Onion
- FB Fan -
USA
61 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2003 : 13:54:44
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Has FB ever covered Gigantic on one of his solo shows during the Pixies? I remember reading a solo show and he did Gigantic.
I know he performed Into The White which he wrote. |
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MikeW
- FB Fan -
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2003 : 16:46:50
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Like I said, thats what I heard. I dont know if its a fact. I just heard that due to Francis already having a publishing deal, that it was just easier to claim that he wrote it. I dont know....maybe Frank will answer that for us someday.
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Originally posted by El Barto
Are you sure Dave wrote Make Believe? I don't think he did...I remember hearing that FB wrote it for Dave due to his obsession with Debbie Gibson
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6196 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2003 : 13:53:46
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I really believe Frank wrote them,
he's a reasonable guy, if he hadn't written them he would have said that in an interview or so, or mentioned that on the b-sides album.
But on that album he says that he wrote Make Believe....
so....
One cool thing about Gigantic: Breeders played it live this week
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
Edited by - billgoodman on 04/10/2003 15:15:59 |
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Leah
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
314 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2003 : 08:56:53
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I've had it confirmed by two different sources that Gigantic had been ending the Breeders set on their current tour of Australia - making me wish I was there already...
Every choice human being strives instinctively for a citadel and a secrecy where he is saved from the crowd -
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2003 : 12:16:21
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hey, this site has a phew kim bashers too mikew. im not sayin you are but i know a lot of people on that site respect frank. i think noaloha and here are pretty equal.
oh yeah, frank sed he wrote the melody and title to gigantic, and kim wrote the words to fit in. kim sed that was about right.
if you say anything mean about kim, i'll kick ya in the shins! |
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Visiting Sasquatch
= Cult of Ray =
USA
451 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2003 : 14:18:35
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| Hey, this site has a few misspellers, too! |
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L. Barlow
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
64 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 12:02:35
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i doubt fraces would have wrote a song thats supposed to be about....well....actually with the black frances of the late 80s you just never know. thats only the lyrics though. i dunno. im just gonna go with kim deal. i mean cmon. bf was the guy that made the pixies tick, but kim played her part aswell...
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 13:50:54
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well soooooooooooorry.didnt know we had to be perfect like stoopid frank black to talk about the pixies.
if you say anything mean about kim, i'll kick ya in the shins! |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6196 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 15:20:43
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Kim bashers?
I don't agree
I love the Breeders, I really do
A lot of the people here love Kim
If you can quote people bashing Kim I will shut up.
Ohh yeah, do not see ''Kim is ok, but Frank Black is a better artist, performer, writer, player, lover, friend, singer etc.'' a bashing.
This is a FB fansite we're suposed to love his stuff.
But still, I don't think we hate Kim...
quote the bashers brackish girl
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 16:42:55
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| For the record, I think Kim and the Breeders are awesome and I love em. |
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GirlieSoGroovy
- FB Fan -
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2003 : 20:17:38
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Before I go on, I want to point out that I'm a girl and I play rock. But...
I think Kim's cool as far as girl rockers go, but it's so cheesy that the one song she wrote for the Pixies (no, Silver doesn't even count as a song) is all about wanting a "big black mess" and whatever. Can a girl ever just be cool without trying to be sexy? Like, on the new White Stripes album that I made the devastating mistake of buying, Meg gets her own song where she's like, "oooh, come do me down by the river." Cheese mania.
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2003 : 16:08:27
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'girl rocker'??*pukes*kim 'tryin to be sexy'?? there's a few quotes for you. if i was ever called a girl rocker, i punch the person. i dont think kim is exactly a try-hard sex bomb-y type person, especially since that song is about a movie and kim is singing as a house-wife havin an affair with a black dude in olden times.
as for silver not bein a song, i'm gonna save you some dignity by not sayin anything about it.
girl rocker...what the...
if you say anything mean about kim, i'll kick ya in the shins! |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2003 : 19:49:16
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| girl rocker...let's see...she's a girl...and plays rock music...errr, I think that would make her a girl rocker. Come on, this riot grrrl shit is soooo 1992. |
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Visiting Sasquatch
= Cult of Ray =
USA
451 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2003 : 21:16:24
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| I think Kim also wrote Into the White, if I'm not mistaken. That song rocks! |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2003 : 06:17:29
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great, next all females with a guitar will be called 'rock chicks' a la avril lavigne. why arent guys guy rockers?
if you say anything mean about kim, i'll kick ya in the shins! |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2003 : 06:18:30
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gosh, i'm a bitch on this thread...
if you say anything mean about kim, i'll kick ya in the shins! |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6196 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2003 : 09:26:31
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still no kim bashing quotes brackish girl?
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2003 : 11:17:16
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well, i thought the kim'trying to be sexy' was kinda bashy, cos well, she doesnt wash her hair or wear any makeup so i cant imagine her as seriously tryin to be sexy.
i saw some on other threads, i'm not gonna go look for 'em! hey, its not like i called u a kim basher, why are you takin this to heart??
the reason why i dont like the way she used 'girl rocker' as if girls dont rock as much as guys. 'she's fine for a girl rocker' as if that was a lower rank.
if you say anything mean about kim, i'll kick ya in the shins! |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6196 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2003 : 14:36:57
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well you know Kim was the one who talked about masturbating in interviews and ex-husbands and stuff. She was very open about that.
And about that make up and hair thing, yes that's nowadays and you're right, but like back in the late 80's and the start of the 90's
she was really a good looking girl. Sad but true, the music industry
will always be influenced by looks. If you're looking nice it can open alot of doors for you (britney?christina?avril?) or it can be a drag because you want people to respect you for your qualities as a performer of writer.
I guess sometimes Kim had both...
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2003 : 20:02:04
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| I guess we call girl rockers girl rockers and not call guy rockers guy rockers because, in reality, there are more male rock musicians than females...so it's kinda like a default. I can't think of a good comparison where we shorten a phrase because of the majority, but...I dunno, you get what I mean, right? I'm not saying girls can't rock...I'm saying there's just statisticly more male rockers than females. People tend to think of a male when they think of the phrase "rock star." |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2003 : 20:09:39
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2003 : 13:05:07
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ok, i've realised why i got pissed off about the 'girl rocker' thing!ok, girlysogroovey sed 'kims cool as far as girl rockers go' as to say she's good FOR A GIRL! if she was a guy she would be crap, in other words. it seems girls are on a lower level to guys, and we must recognise this and bow down to them.
oh yeah, i sed that stuff about kim not dressin up and shit cos i couldnt think of anything to say on my last message. yeah, in pics from the 80's she looks like my momma did, all glossied up.
anyways, can we change the subject now?
if you say anything mean about kim, i'll kick ya in the shins! |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6196 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2003 : 13:26:42
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OK brackish girl
change subject
Isn't it weird that both Kim and Frank seem to be heading to same ways.
Frank:,,I'm not agaisnt computers, I just don't work with them.''
Kim is the allwave inventor if I'm right. She thinks you should record everyting analog and things. Frank too.
Frank records live, I'm not too sure about Breeders but damn it sounds live. They seem attracted by doing it themselves (I saw both FB and the Breeders building up and sound checking themselves, no roadies, at the Lowlands Festival in different years) and hate everything digital like pro tools and multitracking.
any thoughts?
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2003 : 13:58:46
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very true. i think frank should use the little allwave sign, its so cool! did kim also create the sign? just wonderin.
if you say anything mean about kim, i'll kick ya in the shins! |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2003 : 16:28:42
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| COF: Thank you, perfect example! |
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