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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
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 Posted - 01/31/2003 : 12:23:35
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Does anyone here watch Alias? I missed the last 15 minutes of this weeks episode and I know basically what happened, but I want a detailed recap. If anyone feels like sharing, that would rock. 
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2003 : 13:20:16
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Oh, you SO don't know what happened!!!
Francie is DEAD!! And she's being replaced by a look-alike clone. Very bizarre. (You saw her dead with a bullet in her head..well, who we won't know for sure if it was her, but it sure did look like her. But so did her clone. I figure everyone in the show is an agent now..heh..)
You saw they took down SD6, eh? And all the other SD units. Jack got out okay. Dixon appears mighty pissed at Sidney.
So now i've got two big questions - is that it for this season, and where the fuck do they go from here??? |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2003 : 13:34:44
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Well, I read a little bit of recaps in other places - so I knew about Francie, although that confuses the fuck out of me. Is this suddenly Passions? The hell? Not that is has been believable before, but a CLONE? Awesome. 
AND I missed the kissing, I heard it was cheesy from some places, great from others.
Oh, and this is not the end of the season. This week, Ethan Hawke guest stars. Ick.
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2003 : 23:22:09
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Oh yeah..i blanked the kissing out of my mind..heh..
Sloan is up to no good too..i always expected Emily to do something nasty...i guess she did in a way.
You're right about the season..last one had 21 episodes (all conveniently stored in my SVCD collection. =)
It'll be really interesting to see where they go with this now SD6 is 'gone'. Was this just a wet dream for Mr Lips.. |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2003 : 14:32:08
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So, what did Emily do? (cut off her finger? Something else??) I missed everything. Suckage.  |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2003 : 17:13:27
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Don't really know...i'm guessing she was the one making all the 'demands'..? She did cut off her own finger tho..
Unless Sloane had someone else doing all this. Somehow i can't see Sloane being with someone who wasn't as evil as he was..eh? |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2003 : 11:35:13
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Well, I will catch up tonight - and hopefully they will do many minutes of "previously"s so I am not completely lost.
Stupid Superbowl taking up my whole tape. Grrr. |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2003 : 21:44:18
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| Ahh.. I won't see it until Tuesday, so don't say anything..... (I download it, takes a day for folks to encode it..heh..) |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2003 : 08:00:49
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Okay, I won't say anything except I am caught up now. Yay!
Post after you watch it - I'll be curious to hear what you thought. My only thought right now is "Evil Francie is CREEPY!". |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2003 : 10:31:00
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| heh.. I'm gonna watch it in a few minutes.. I thought Francie was kinda creepy either way..just waiting for her to pull some agent stunt.. =P |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2003 : 10:32:38
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She's the only character left, that i can think of, that's just a 'citizen', and now she's not..very weird.. (Wil is now a CIA guy too..)
Um..no one else watches the show either? |
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1439 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2003 : 10:43:26
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you guys are so lucky to have all those cool TV shows over there. we will probably see them
in 12 months
:o(
There may be no 'I' in team, but there's a 'ME' if you look hard enough. |
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2003 : 10:54:36
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quote:
Originally posted by bazza
you guys are so lucky to have all those cool TV shows over there. we will probably see them
in 12 months
:o(
There may be no 'I' in team, but there's a 'ME' if you look hard enough.
Yeah but you guys are lucky to have ALL THOSE LEPRECHAUNS over there. And St. Patrick.
;)
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1439 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2003 : 11:06:55
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we breed them on free-range farms you know...
:o)
There may be no 'I' in team, but there's a 'ME' if you look hard enough. |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2003 : 11:16:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Noisy
She's the only character left, that i can think of, that's just a 'citizen', and now she's not..very weird.. (Wil is now a CIA guy too..)
I thought of that too. No room for "normal" people anymore, not that the show was ever NORMAL, but you know...
Yeah, does no one else watch this show? It's really good! Really! |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2003 : 12:46:52
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Okay, just watched the show...hmmm..
I am *not* buying the cloning. It don't work that way. You have a genetic predisposition to certain facial (and body) characteristics, but there are so many factors that shape your appearance it's impossible to account for them, so cloning someone's 'face' (let alone their body and musculature) is completely false science.. I hate to get all technical, but this is probably the worst thought-out thing i've seen on the show...eh?
Okay..back to the good parts of the show.. Think that Fancie might be that 'Anna' character from the first season? (Think football field..)
No Sloane or Sark this episode..or Wil. (I didn't like him before, but now i am..)
I hope the romance between Bristow and Vaughn doesn't turn the show into another Moonlighting..heh.. (They were detectives, weren't they? It's been a while..)
Got the feeling this was just a 'filler' episode. Who was the guest/what's his significance?
I read that the writers are going to try and make the show more accessible (stupid plebeians!) I sure hope not...i like when they keep me going 'huh??' (Like, just what the hell was that big floating ball of water that nearly drowned Vaughn??) |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2003 : 17:32:28
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Well, I agree the cloning or whatever it is is pretty far fetched, but I think I suspended belief awhile back - around maybe Vaughn bleeding from the fingernails or Sydney escaping every life threatening situation unscathed! The big ball of water was another one, how can the water fill the room when it was previously only filling the ball?? Hello?? That totally difies the laws of mass, volume, so on and so forth.
ANYWAY, all that said; I did think the Francie clone was/is Anna, and she doesn't seem to be very concerned about cover. I mean, Sydney must have thought she was mildly sick to her stomach if nothing else. Did you see her sour face? Sheesh.
I missed Will too, I have sort of grown to like him now that he isn't such a doof. I figure Slone is catching some rays and maybe Sark is also being "debriefed" (along with Marshall and Dixon).
Did seem sorta like a filler ep - maybe just a recovery from all the hubbub of last week. Ethan Hawke was the guest and I think he was just there to maybe draw any "Ethan Hawke fans" although I personally don't know any. Sorry, Ethan.
Also where was Lena Olin??? She rules and she hasn't been on for two episodes now. Is she just sleeping on her little pillow while all this stuff is going down?
Anyway, looks like next week picks up again...I wonder how long before Faux Francie is found out...I guess they could milk it for awhile. And what is the significance of her making a porno of Syd and Vaughn? I mean, doesn't everyone already know they were a flirty item, you actually need the macking on tape? I don't get it. |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2003 : 18:26:15
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Yeah, that was my next question about the ball..heh.. Although, maybe it was compressed water? ;)
Yeah, Creepy Francie looked weird when she brought her boy-toy home.. Francie should have been all over him. I'm guessing Syd's too happy to pay too much attention.
Sark is free, tho Marshall and Dixon are under CIA supervision.
Yes...Derevco..what is she up to..is she really on Syd's side? hmm..
You can tell a lot about someone by the way they make love. (Uh..i dunno, just made that up.)
I thought Syd would have all sorts of anti-spyware stuff in her place? |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2003 : 08:47:08
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| I know Syd has the anti-listening device in her house, but I guess they never did anything about possible pornos. Oy. |
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sand in the dog
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 02/06/2003 : 10:11:21
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Man, TV is for suckers. It is just what they want. Anyway, what were you saying about Porno?
hook it to my veins! |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2003 : 08:02:30
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| Dave, did you see last week??? Think Irina has been bad all along? I am so confused. Also Evil FauxFrancie is creeping me out! |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2003 : 14:27:38
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| Shit..i think i saw it.. The one with the bomb? I must be missing something..i don't recall Irena in it.. FauxFrancie is really disturbing tho...i think Dixon came back too quickly tho. |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2003 : 06:38:28
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| Did anyone see the finale last night? Ohmigod!! |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2003 : 16:25:09
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I've read a little bit about it..i'll prolly download it tonite, watch tomorrow..i'll letya know when i see it..
Something about next season being 2yrs in the future? |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2003 : 06:44:49
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| Yeah. You'll see! No one in my life watches it, so I am boring them all with excessive stories about what happened. Oy! |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2003 : 21:51:41
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Okay..i saw it.. (And a surprising amount of silence here...i guess the show prolly won't survive a third season with so few viewers!!)
Like most of the season since SD6 was shut down, i wasn't very impressed..the show seems to have been dumbed-down...way down.
Irena is acting really weird. I think she's been on acid or something.
Still no idea what the Rimbaldi device is...i think that was a stupid mistake for the show..we've been hanging on all season, they should have given a big clue besides dimming lights.
They made Sydney the 'focal point' or whatever, and Sloan too.
Too many people dying, tho i was never fond of creepy Francie. Guess Wil and Syd can get together now?
The two-year thing...seems stupid. Who grieves like Vaughn would, gets over it and gets married in under two years?
Where was Syd for two years??
It's funny, i have about 10 gigs of Season 2 VCD's on my HD, and i can't decide if they're worth burning (~$10 cost) or should i just del them...i have season one already..i'm thinking i'll keep up until the end of SD6..bleh..
What did you think? Anyone else here? |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2003 : 08:23:37
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I thought the best sequence was the whole part where Will figures it all out, has the fight with FauxFrancie, and then Sydney comes home has to keep a straight face while hearing the voicemail & then the whole chick fight. I thought the fact that they seemed so equally matched was interesting - and a good payoff to US (the audience) knowing she was a clone for so long.
Agree about Irina - I think she's bipolar or something - one minute she's up then down, I was confused. And, HELLO, what happened when Vaughn went after Slone? I mean, he OBVIOUSLY didn't catch him - but they never addressed that AT ALL. The hell?
The 2 year thing pisses me off. I wonder if it's a dream - which would REALLY piss me off, but it seems weird and unlikely that Vaughn would grieve (while presumibly searching for Syd) and then meet someone & get married so fast. I mean, he obviously wasn't OVER IT, he could barely look Sydney in the face, realizing he is a fuck up! 
So, the other question - is the Rambaldi device a TIME MACHINE?? That would also be weird, but maybe that is how Sydney showed up two years later. I wouldn't put anything by the show at this point. |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2003 : 11:45:29
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hmm..the scenes in this show are so damn weird if you ask me. Like, they fly to a country, blow shit up, fly back, drive to Syd's place, and then when they're sitting on the bed they start to discuss what happened...??
Same with the phone call from Wil - why is Syd waiting until she gets home to check her voicemail?? Wouldn't call display have shown it was Wil calling, and she made a priority to check it? I dunno..
Oh yeah...what about Vaughn..?? Weird.
The scene didn't seem to have any 'dream' properties really, did it?
hahaha..yeah, what a fuck up!
I doubt it's a time machine..if it were i think much more sinister (or good) stuff would have happened than Syd waking up two years later, eh? Of course, this would fit with the typical writing..
They made an issue of a scar on her stomach tho..wonder what that was? |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2003 : 12:06:53
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Well, if you have your cell phone off - you don't get a display of who called you; only that you have a message. Though I dunno why she wouldn't have checked it earlier. Also, when he was dropping her off at home Vaughn said he would see her after the "debriefing" - wouldn't SHE also be at the debriefing?? That made no sense to me.
AND, why did Faux Francie just put Will in the bathtub and then act all normal to Syd? Isn't is possible that Sydney might have had to pee? How would Francie have explained that? There are a bunch of continuity errors, as usual.
I think a time machine would be super lame - but I don't put it past them. I still think the whole Rambaldi plot (with her drawing and the "prophecy" etc) is kinda beat - not really intriguing to me mostly cause it makes no logical sense.
At first I thought the scar was just from her fight with Francie - like maybe to show how much time had passed - and now I don't know. Could be she had her appendix out, I have a similar scar myself.
Nevertheless, I was totally absorbed in the last half hour of the show, you couldn't have pried me away. So they must be doing SOMETHING right. I am curious to see what will happen next. |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2003 : 22:22:50
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Yeah, the tub thing was really stupid too..Francie has her own room, don't she?
I wonder when fight scenes will finally start to fade away...or at least shift into something more interesting??
In the last five years, the only two moments that come to mind as captivating 'fight scenes' was the stuff from the Matrix and Crouching Tiger..otherwise, it's all pretty pedantic, relatively speaking..there's no innovation or creativity now..same stupid sounds..blah..
Yeah, but they made an issue of showing the scar, so it's *gotta* mean something...i don't recall her getting a wound there, do you?
I dunno..i guess i keep watching with the sad hope that it might improve, but i don't think that's gonna happen.
They should have learned from the X-Files - always keep the characters distanced...romance really ruins it...i was much more intrigued wondering what they were thinking about each other, now it's just like..blah.. I guess this might be a way to split them up and create a new tension...sad if it is.
I'm not in the greatest mood right now either, so i'm prolly a bit extra brutal..heh.. |
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2003 : 05:51:53
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jennifer garner is hot as hell
Got coffee, got donuts, got wasted.. |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2003 : 06:54:11
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Yeah, and so is Michael Vartan. Me-ow.
I think them getting together was a GOOD THING for the show, I like it much better now. The dragging it out was annoying - cause you sorta knew they were supposed to be together. At least in my romantic view. Heh. I think putting them together and then splitting them up - and going back and forth all the time, well that's just dicking us around frankly. There is so much OTHER conflict on the show - that just seems like a big cock tease. So I will be very GRRRR if they do that for all of next season.
I don't recall Syd getting any belly wound either, so who the hell knows. I am sure only some things will be explained when we get back in September anyway...see you here then!  |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2003 : 19:49:06
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I'd say Vartan is hotter than Garner, but neither really turn my crank.. I'd say that it's kinda refreshing to see a show of rather average/normal looking joes..
September.. I won't be waiting too eagerly..heh.. |
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