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obmeZ
- FB Fan -

USA
53 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2002 :  05:17:09  Show Profile  Visit obmeZ's Homepage
All I gots to say is What a freak'n Ahhsome
show! I think the venue made all the difference.
Last time they were in town at the Paradise
they didn't seem very happy with the club.
TeeZee

El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2002 :  12:04:42  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Come on, someone has to have more to say about this show...what about The Bennies surprise?

www.thebennies.com
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Grieves
- FB Fan -

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2002 :  16:29:08  Show Profile
This was the 5th show on the tour I had the opportunity to catch and they kicked ass. I've noticed it's always more fun to hang out on Richie Gilbert's side of the stage rather than Dave's. They did this stretch of songs including Gouge Away, Thallasocracy and I Want Rock and Roll which was unfuckingbelievable.

The only song they played that I hadn't heard on this tour was Dog in the Sand.

I missed The Bennies this time around(sorry Barto) but I did see Reid Paley and his band. I have to say if I didn't see them ever again I'd be ok with it. His negativity wears on me and I don't think he's as good as he thinks he is.

Oops- it's time to go drink!

~Grieves
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big_galoof
= Cult of Ray =

USA
310 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2002 :  20:45:41  Show Profile  Visit big_galoof's Homepage
what bennies surprise? i'm on pins and needles!

TBG

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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2002 :  21:18:25  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
yah reid's attitude kinda annoyed me too

-miked
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2002 :  08:41:18  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
My friends one word review of Reid was "eeew". But of course, being gals, we may have had a different POV.

But Frank was excellent. I stood on the side of the stage (they have a few steps which you can stand up on) and had a direct view of the man. He seemed much happier than the past times I have seen him, don't know if that has been the way it is on this tour, or if that was just the night. In between Reid and Dave, Frank was standing right behind my friend and I was chatting with her then glanced at him to see him looking at me and smiling. I was totally taken aback.

Anyway, the show was so amazing, I found myself just thinking "I LOVE MUSIC" through the whole thing - which is somewhat symplistic, I suppose, but it was just so good and so tight. They only did one encore (FAREWELL BEND) and I wished they came back again, but it was late and I wasn't disapointed by the show as a whole. MONKEY GONE TO HEAVEN (accostic - and great, he hits all the notes) was good, I was very happy he played OUT OF STATE, JANE THE QUEEN OF LOVE, SOUTHBOUND BEVY, and the stretch of songs that Grieves mentioned was really amazing, everyone was dancing and it really got the crowd into it.

Anyway, was a truly great show - I obviously can't say enough about it.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2002 :  21:37:37  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Wow, I'm shocked...nobody here caught The Bennies? For the last song of their set, they performed "La La Love You" live with David Lovering on vocals and his girlfriend singing Kim's part ("I love you..."). This is the only time it was ever performed live by any of the Pixies....nobody saw it...

www.thebennies.com
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Grieves
- FB Fan -

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2002 :  07:10:21  Show Profile
You sure you weren't hallucinating Barto?

Damn lucky duck.

~Grieves
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2002 :  08:32:52  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
I wasn't at the show, but that's the story I got from the guys. They were supposed to perform it with him on the Philly DC DC weekend but didn't get the time to rehearse. I really wish they would have had the smarts to have someone record it...

www.thebennies.com
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mrbuff
- FB Fan -

USA
34 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2002 :  09:01:31  Show Profile
My brother and I saw the Northampton show and this one was much better than that night. We showed up late on purpose so we could skip the bennies, who really stunk it up two weeks ago. We got our tix and went over to Jillian's to have a drink or two before the show. While we were there I looked over and saw Frank at a booth. We left him alone and at about 10:00 he left so we followed. We ended up skipping both openers and seeing only David and FB. Frank went on about 10:45 and stopped around 12:15. Here are the songs I can remember and they are mostly out of order.
The opener was Solid Gold, which was messed up and cut short in Northampton so that felt very personal to start the show with that one. Thanks guys! This was one of the best FB shows I have ever seen, it reminded me of their Teenager tour. I agree, the venue was much better this time and it was a really cool night to be in the city with everyone out of it for the holiday. Frank got visibily choked up during Cold Heart of Stone, which he acknowledged and then started his sad part "I once had a dog, who ran from his home...". And a great closer before the encore with Southbound Bevy right into Dog in the Sand. I was hoping for another ripping Bartholemew like in Noho and maybe All My Ghosts but the guys were so good that night it didn't matter at all.


Solid Gold
Cactus
I've Seen your Picture
Robert Onion
Bullet
Southbound Bevy
Dog in the Sand
Men in Black
Freedom Rock
I want Rock and Roll
Steak n Sabre
California Bound
Gouge Away
Monkey Gone to Heaven
Wave of Mutilation
Cold Heart of Stone
Nadine
Manitoba
Bad Day
Black Letter Day
Jane the Queen of Love
Out of State
How You Went So Far
Black Rider
Farewell Bend
Crackity Jones
Thalassocracy
Whiskey in your shoes?

I probably have missed a few.
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2002 :  09:15:02  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
he got choked up?? thats wierd, hopefully one of his dogs didnt die.

-miked
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
653 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2002 :  09:35:03  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by El Barto

Wow, I'm shocked...nobody here caught The Bennies? For the last song of their set, they performed "La La Love You" live with David Lovering on vocals and his girlfriend singing Kim's part ("I love you..."). This is the only time it was ever performed live by any of the Pixies....nobody saw it...

www.thebennies.com



That's flat-out bizarre. I hope someone out there got that on tape, as I'd love to hear it.

Don' t blame the band too much for not capturing it themselves, though. Virtually all of the best live onstage moments I've ever been involved in with any of my musical projects vanished into the air. Even when we all knew we were going to do something special or only once, we rarely if ever got our act together and planned to tape it. That's the same way with almost every band I know.

- Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2002 :  11:50:42  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
Right before the part of COLD HEART OF STONE about the dog, he said "now this is the really sad part" or something to that effect.

I missed The Bennies - and sadly caught that crappy Reid guy....wish they had switched their sets around. Bummah.

Also, before the show I witnessed Frank with his wife, (I am assuming it was his wife...they were hugging and such...) very cute blond woman - they seemed very happy and in love. Sweet.

Edited by - ramona on 12/04/2002 16:47:54
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Grieves
- FB Fan -

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2002 :  12:05:40  Show Profile
I need to find a girlfriend. I don't care if her favorite color is teal and she puts toilet paper on the roller backwards so you have to pull from the bottom- as long as she is into Frank.

Is that off-topic?

Ramona??

~Grieves
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2002 :  13:43:43  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
Hmmm...well, my favorite color is NOT teal, for all that that matters...

And I LURVE Frank - obviously.

girlie so groovy I want you to know...
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2002 :  16:13:40  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Grieves

I need to find a girlfriend. I don't care if her favorite color is teal and she puts toilet paper on the roller backwards so you have to pull from the bottom- as long as she is into Frank.

Is that off-topic?

Ramona??

~Grieves



wait.. you PREFER pulling from the top? i always thought bottom was better.. it's easier to tear off without causing an accidental out-of-contril rolling.

am i alone in this theory?

palabra a tu madre.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2002 :  16:49:47  Show Profile
The under Roll is FAR more disastrous. Top roll only.
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Grieves
- FB Fan -

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2002 :  16:54:00  Show Profile
I live on the edge, floop. I used to set my tp down through the bottom until I was informed by an obviously more cultured friend that it was improper to do so. I think they told me something about accessibility. Sometimes when you have it rolled through the bottom it's difficult to find where the roll starts.

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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2002 :  06:18:19  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
Ann Landers actually solved the top / bottom TP debate in her column. She stated that pulling from the top was the correct way because that's the way the printed patterns are oriented. Maybe you boys are using the patternless, college dorm grade, fax paper brand of TP . . .

Frank Black always seems to play Boston around some holiday. Is there a reason for this? I miss him almost every tour because I go to PA for the holidays. You'd think he'd try to hit such a huge college town when the college kids would be around. Maybe he's visiting family?

Does anyone have a more detailed account of the show? I need to live vicariously!!!
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2002 :  06:45:37  Show Profile
stop talking about shit paper people
BARTO are they gonna do La La Love You again or was it a one timer?? If they do it again pleeeeeeeeaaaaseeee get someone to tape it, who cares what the quality is
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2002 :  09:26:56  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
'And you cannot buy the non-scarring toilet paper!' - Apu from the Simpsons last nite. =)
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2002 :  13:16:33  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
Dearest Atheist,

What do you want to know about the show? I could probably go on and on, but I am thinking you may want to know more technical guitar like questions or something, and that is not my forte.

Am happy to oblige though, if I can...
Ramona
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2002 :  04:20:11  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
It was a one timer...you guys missed it. Shame on you.

www.thebennies.com
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Cartland
- FB Fan -

Iceland
78 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2002 :  06:02:53  Show Profile  Visit Cartland's Homepage
"Oh Ramona, if there was only something between us
Other than our clothes"

Know that one?

Off-topic enough for you?
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =

USA
544 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2002 :  07:55:05  Show Profile
From the Boston Herald

Black's fans get Pixie-lated

by Phillip C. Naslund
Friday, November 29, 2002

Frank Black and the Catholics, at Avalon, Wednesday night.

Fans who attended the Frank Black show at Avalon on Wednesday night hoping to see their rock hero play a solid set of tunes spanning his career got what they wanted.

Fans hoping for a reunion of Black's first band - and Boston's gift to alt-rock history, the Pixies - also got a taste of what they wanted. Sort of.

Dressed in a dark suit, a healthy-looking Black sauntered on stage with his band the Catholics and opened up with a rocking version of ``Solid Gold'' anchored by the dueling guitars of Dave Philips and Rich Gilbert (who doubled on keyboards).

Black also played guitar, while David McCaffrey on bass and Scott Boutier on drums drove the band through the 90 minute-plus show. Touring in support of the simultaneously released ``Black Letter Days'' and ``Devil's Workshop'' CDs, they tore through a 29-song set that included new tunes ``Cold Heart of Stone'' and ``Black Letter Day.''

Backed by Philips and Gilbert on two pedal-steel guitars, Black played a slow, somber version of the Pixies classic ``Monkey Gone to Heaven.'' Very cool. Other Pixies songs included ``Gouge Away'' and ``Crackity Jones,'' delivered just as hard-rocking as the originals.

The crowd, while attentive, didn't really get into the show until the band started to perform material from Black's early solo career, with such anthems as ``Freedom Rock'' and ``Men in Black.'' The Pixies' ``Wave of Mutilation (U.K. Surf)'' also got a tremendous reaction from the crowd. The main set ended with a rollicking version of Tom Waits' ``The Black Rider.''

Black and company encored with a heartfelt rendition of ``The Farewell Bend'' from ``Black Letter Days,'' which he prefaced by saying, ``Hopefully, we can do this song without too much interruption from the disco next door.'' It was his only banter of the evening.

Oh, the reunion? In one of the strangest opening acts ever for a rock concert, former Pixies drummer Dave Lovering came onstage in a white lab coat and performed such science experiments as running electricity through a pickle and watching it glow because of its sodium content.

Reid Paley also performed, playing a solid set of his blues-inspired rock, mostly ignored by the crowd.
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =

USA
544 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2002 :  07:57:01  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ramona

Also, before the show I witnessed him with his wife, (I am assuming it was his wife...they were hugging and such...) very cute blond woman - they seemed very happy and in love. Sweet.



I saw that also. They were all over each other. Probably hadn't seen each other for a few weeks. She's a good lookin' lady.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2002 :  09:49:12  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
and he is very handsome and looked better than I have seen him look the other two times I have seen him play (healthier and happier) so good for them. Let's hear it for love! (tm. The Smoking Popes)
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2002 :  10:11:41  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
Thanx Mr Grieves! That Herald review sated me sufficiently (although I find it odd that they wouldn't mention the rumored "La La Love You" performance)
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2002 :  10:29:37  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
maybe the reviewer wasn't there yet? Like the rest of us, loosahs.
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Stop Tap Spin
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27 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2002 :  20:51:54  Show Profile
This is in reply to Ramona's "choked-up" thing.
He did the same little aside before that verse in "Cold Heart"
at his NYC Virgin in-store on the 12th.
He also stopped mid- "Wave of Mutilation" to say "See, I was talking about El Nino way before it was this big thing.
That's Frank for you. He knows we'll hang on every word until he starts the song again.

*You should have a cloak lined with ermine*
-HH
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2002 :  06:32:48  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
I didn't necessarily think he got choked up, (that was mrbuff, I believe) but he did seem very into the song. I love you, Frank.
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mrbuff
- FB Fan -

USA
34 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2002 :  16:18:11  Show Profile
I don't want to nitpick... but he did get choked up and he did acknowledge it. As a person who lost his dog that's a favorite lyric of mine. Also, Cold Heart of Stone was not played in Northampton so I was keying in on that song. Did you notice Frank didn't play the entire acoustic hook after the first few times through the song? He skipped the "to your cold heart of stone" guitar part. This is hard to explain.

If someone gets/has a tape of the show they will notice that Frank even missed his singing mark before that part. And of course you'll hear him acknowledge the miss.

Oh well, that's all I got to say about this. I'll let you get back to wiping your butt posts. Peace and happy holidays.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2002 :  16:46:38  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
I wasn't disagreeing w/you Mr.Buff - just saying that I didn't actually SEE him get choked up and couldn't speak to that....I did notice what you are saying about the accoustic part. The main thing was he was turned away from my side of the stage at that point, and I couldn't really see his face. I did see him smile (sort of bittersweetly) when he made the comment, so I wasn't clear about the actual choking up. I believe you though!

I wish it was a week ago and I was getting ready for the show all over again...

girlie so groovy I want you to know...
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