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Carl Posted - 09/09/2009 : 03:04:03
Okay, so the old 'Really not worth a topic' thread is a total mess, with lots of stuff that's really not worth posting AT ALL. So, I thought I'd start a new thread for little articles and things, but not cram it with every little thing that mentions Pixies! So anyway, came across this and hopefully this is an example of something possibly worth posting:

NYTimes.com - Living With Music: A Playlist by Joanna Smith Rakoff.

1) Is She Weird, Pixies. Nowadays, when people talk about the 1990s, the first band they mention is Nirvana, but for me — and most of my college-radio-station-DJ, record-store-regular friends — that era was all about the Pixies, with their irresistible, genre-busting sound: the slow, precise bass, the shifting tempo, the eerie hiss and scream of Black Francis. In 1990, when “Bossanova” came out, I listened to it endlessly — even though it wasn’t on the level of “Doolittle” or “Come on Pilgrim” — thrilled by this brief, odd song, a freaky gloss on Macbeth: “Is she weird? / Is she white? / Is she promised to the night? / And her head has no room.” I was 18 then, and felt very weird and very white.
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Bedbug Posted - 12/14/2021 : 07:53:30
First FBF song that came on my tunes today was "End of Miles"

I'm not sure I ever really appreciated what an honest, harrowing, melancholy and yet hopeful song that is.

Bravo Frank, this is such good stuff
Stevio10 Posted - 12/04/2021 : 10:44:22
Dave Grohl's 10 favourite albums. Probably not a surprise to see Pixies there but nice added bonus seeing FB in there too.

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/dave-grohl-ten-favourite-albums-of-all-time/
Ziggy Posted - 10/04/2021 : 00:34:11
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

quote:
Originally posted by Sprite

Not sure I ever saw this interview back in the day. Reckon the Pixies manager has been lurking around this forum once or twice.

https://celebrityaccess.com/2020/06/01/why-the-pixies-podcasted-their-album/



Great read.

The podcast was amazing. BTE is a career highlight for me and that's because I'm in Woodstock with the band when I hear that record.

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?




Absolutely. Genuinely enlightening and heartening to hear the band refining the songs. Plus the record itself really does stand up to repeated listening. Some of my favourite FB songs there.
billgoodman Posted - 09/25/2021 : 23:23:31
quote:
Originally posted by Sprite

Not sure I ever saw this interview back in the day. Reckon the Pixies manager has been lurking around this forum once or twice.

https://celebrityaccess.com/2020/06/01/why-the-pixies-podcasted-their-album/



Great read.

The podcast was amazing. BTE is a career highlight for me and that's because I'm in Woodstock with the band when I hear that record.

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
Sprite Posted - 09/24/2021 : 01:46:30
Not sure I ever saw this interview back in the day. Reckon the Pixies manager has been lurking around this forum once or twice.

https://celebrityaccess.com/2020/06/01/why-the-pixies-podcasted-their-album/
Brank_Flack Posted - 01/17/2021 : 15:51:10
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

The Pixies posted an endorsement of this album of piano Pixies covers on their Facebook page the other day:

https://kindt.ffm.to/pixies.ofp?fbclid=IwAR3cTMpzrmZuBMqvW0KT9iRZdFLALEIpNZrVadPH3KQsWC6iqc6g5EFPcBU

Some of them are pretty good.


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If all you see is violins, then I make a plea in their defense.



I was thinking before I clicked on the link that Catfish Kate would work well - glad to see they did it! (the only Pixies 2.0 song on the list)
coastline Posted - 01/17/2021 : 14:38:06
The Pixies posted an endorsement of this album of piano Pixies covers on their Facebook page the other day:

https://kindt.ffm.to/pixies.ofp?fbclid=IwAR3cTMpzrmZuBMqvW0KT9iRZdFLALEIpNZrVadPH3KQsWC6iqc6g5EFPcBU

Some of them are pretty good.


__________________________________________________

If all you see is violins, then I make a plea in their defense.
Sprite Posted - 12/31/2020 : 10:20:22
I knew Olympus Mmons was big but I didn't appreciate just how big.

https://twitter.com/FunFactsEverday/status/1341547296740179968


Very tenuous Pixies link I know. I just hope Frank has been writing a whole bunch of new songs during lockdown.
Bedbug Posted - 12/26/2020 : 09:09:01
quote:
Originally posted by tamefan

There's a Mexican YouTuber/musician who has made reaction videos to his first listens of Pixies albums. They're a lot of fun to watch and I recommend you guys check them out and relive the music vicariously through him.

Here's his Come on Pilgrim video, which is the first he reviewed. He's really amused by the spanish lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvKzKDgSZYM



Thanks for sharing tamefan, that was very cool indeed. I love watching these. I saw one of a youngster reacted to the Beastie Boys for the first time, that was cool, and one of a guitar teacher reacting to Ween for the first time. Also cool. Looking forward to more.
tamefan Posted - 12/26/2020 : 05:45:29
There's a Mexican YouTuber/musician who has made reaction videos to his first listens of Pixies albums. They're a lot of fun to watch and I recommend you guys check them out and relive the music vicariously through him.

Here's his Come on Pilgrim video, which is the first he reviewed. He's really amused by the spanish lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvKzKDgSZYM
Bedbug Posted - 12/10/2020 : 12:13:43
Nice cover of All My Ghosts.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CeHszNjk9M4
billgoodman Posted - 09/12/2020 : 22:05:03
quote:
Originally posted by Stevio10

Paz working on new Pixies video...Los Surfers Muertos? Or something new?


https://instagram.com/stories/pazlenchantin/2394224509159999799?igshid=saubdrvts35k



It's gonna be
Hear Me Out

BTE-outtake

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
Stevio10 Posted - 09/09/2020 : 06:39:25
Paz working on new Pixies video...Los Surfers Muertos? Or something new?


https://instagram.com/stories/pazlenchantin/2394224509159999799?igshid=saubdrvts35k
tamefan Posted - 08/24/2020 : 20:31:16
I wonder if the pandemic has inspired Charles! I bet it has!!
Sprite Posted - 08/22/2020 : 13:39:50
Ah OK I saw it on the other thread, Great news.
Sprite Posted - 08/22/2020 : 13:36:36
quote:
Originally posted by tamefan

Now that Joey's confirmed the new album and says it's their current priority (and demos were recorded in February), what does everyone hope to see and when do you predict it will release.



When did this little nugget drop?
Bedbug Posted - 08/14/2020 : 08:36:46
quote:
Originally posted by tamefan

Now that Joey's confirmed the new album and says it's their current priority (and demos were recorded in February), what does everyone hope to see and when do you predict it will release?

Personally, I'm open to anything -- BTE scratched my Pixies itch and so I would be OK with some risk-taking and forgiving if it's hit or miss. The only thing I will not forgive is another album that sounds like Head Carrier (omg) because I struggle to relisten to those songs, despite some good songwriting. I expect a summer 2021 release.



O my little cloud
tamefan Posted - 08/14/2020 : 06:44:05
Now that Joey's confirmed the new album and says it's their current priority (and demos were recorded in February), what does everyone hope to see and when do you predict it will release?

Personally, I'm open to anything -- BTE scratched my Pixies itch and so I would be OK with some risk-taking and forgiving if it's hit or miss. The only thing I will not forgive is another album that sounds like Head Carrier (omg) because I struggle to relisten to those songs, despite some good songwriting. I expect a summer 2021 release.
pot Posted - 06/19/2020 : 13:26:24
There really ought to be an actual Pixies tribute band featuring 4 females called the Pixie Chicks
Bedbug Posted - 06/19/2020 : 10:24:14
When I first heard them that's what I often thought Black Francis looked like. Was surprised to find out the lead singer was not also a Mrs.
pot Posted - 06/19/2020 : 02:54:19
quote:
Originally posted by stuczuba

Dave looks very high-maintenance..



Defo had the painters in when that photo was taken for sure..
stuczuba Posted - 06/18/2020 : 17:34:04
Dave looks very high-maintenance..
pot Posted - 06/18/2020 : 14:52:35
Since faceapping gender swapping is all the rage these days I thought I'd knock up a quick one for the Pixies. What the Pixies might have looked like if they'd all been chicks. I think Joey looks kinda cute?

tamefan Posted - 06/06/2020 : 18:53:52
Reading thru the YouTube comments on the demos for the first time. I'm happy that everyone's happy with these songs. Hope the band glance at the YT comments sometime, I bet they'd warm their hearts.
Bedbug Posted - 06/05/2020 : 10:08:26
Looks like Ready For Love has an official video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qkUKAbdsNY
Bedbug Posted - 06/04/2020 : 07:27:42
quote:
Originally posted by stuczuba

Well, you can count me amongst the those never noticed the tablas until they were pointed out but I've always thought it was a logical progression from Bossa - there's nothing stylistically out of place whilst FB and TOTY are sonically very different to my ears even if some of the lyrical themes continue.

There's stuff on both those initial solo albums that wouldn't fit the Pixies mould. It wasn't like the more recent 'no Kim' nonsense, it was very much 'this is a very different, less extreme thing' and there was an awful lot of 'this isn't as good as Pixies' at the time, especially after that Reading show which was the first major solo gig I can remember. I loved that gig but do remember people muttering about it afterwards. That didn't happen when Trompe came out, it was more like 'Oh good, more Pixies'. Even leaving aside Kim's input, there's tons of Dave and Joey business all over the album that is 100% pure Pixies.

Trompe being the first solo album idea seems to be a much more recent conceit, very hindsight-driven and specific to this parish ;)



This debate never gets old for me. We should submit peer reviewed journal articles on this.

I hear your points and they are good points. As I recall, most of my friends thought TLM was good when it came out, like they did with Bossanova, but by and large everybody kept obsessing over SR and Doolittle. TLM continued the movement away from the earlier Pixies sound while still being Pixies. The solo albums, while not literally being the work of one person, continued that departure, under a new label but with some of the same partners (Joey, EDF, etc). If the fax wasn't sent in 1993 and Charles, Joey, Kim and Dave had produced a sixth album, we could assume it would have Los Angeles, Brackish Boy and other Solo tracks on it. From a time / space standpoint, Solo albums are closer to the emergence of the 1.0 sound, a year or two removed as opposed to twenty plus years away. If you could go back in time and remove TLM from the 1.0 canon and replace it with IC, would we think of IC as pure 1.0?
Bedbug Posted - 06/04/2020 : 07:15:35
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

quote:

There's stuff on both those initial solo albums that wouldn't fit the Pixies mould. It wasn't like the more recent 'no Kim' nonsense, it was very much 'this is a very different, less extreme thing' and there was an awful lot of 'this isn't as good as Pixies' at the time, especially after that Reading show which was the first major solo gig I can remember. I loved that gig but do remember people muttering about it afterwards. That didn't happen when Trompe came out, it was more like 'Oh good, more Pixies'.



I love reading accounts from way back like this. I've don't think I've never read anyone talk about the Reading set. That's very interesting to me. I WISH that I had memories like that to share. My accounts of seeing Frank Black live don't start until 1996!

And thank you, Discoking. Maybe I'll start a new topic for these articles with the next one. Probably on the main Frank Black forum here, since FRANK BLACK is where we're going next...




Yes Jason, I encourage you to start a new topic and link all your posts. These are great!
Jason Posted - 06/01/2020 : 07:00:35
quote:

There's stuff on both those initial solo albums that wouldn't fit the Pixies mould. It wasn't like the more recent 'no Kim' nonsense, it was very much 'this is a very different, less extreme thing' and there was an awful lot of 'this isn't as good as Pixies' at the time, especially after that Reading show which was the first major solo gig I can remember. I loved that gig but do remember people muttering about it afterwards. That didn't happen when Trompe came out, it was more like 'Oh good, more Pixies'.



I love reading accounts from way back like this. I've don't think I've never read anyone talk about the Reading set. That's very interesting to me. I WISH that I had memories like that to share. My accounts of seeing Frank Black live don't start until 1996!

And thank you, Discoking. Maybe I'll start a new topic for these articles with the next one. Probably on the main Frank Black forum here, since FRANK BLACK is where we're going next...
Discoking Posted - 05/29/2020 : 04:42:28
these posts about Frank Black-o-Rama are in the wrong place!
they *are* worth a topic.


it's educational
stuczuba Posted - 05/29/2020 : 01:54:54
Well, you can count me amongst the those never noticed the tablas until they were pointed out but I've always thought it was a logical progression from Bossa - there's nothing stylistically out of place whilst FB and TOTY are sonically very different to my ears even if some of the lyrical themes continue.

There's stuff on both those initial solo albums that wouldn't fit the Pixies mould. It wasn't like the more recent 'no Kim' nonsense, it was very much 'this is a very different, less extreme thing' and there was an awful lot of 'this isn't as good as Pixies' at the time, especially after that Reading show which was the first major solo gig I can remember. I loved that gig but do remember people muttering about it afterwards. That didn't happen when Trompe came out, it was more like 'Oh good, more Pixies'. Even leaving aside Kim's input, there's tons of Dave and Joey business all over the album that is 100% pure Pixies.

Trompe being the first solo album idea seems to be a much more recent conceit, very hindsight-driven and specific to this parish ;)
Bedbug Posted - 05/27/2020 : 12:57:16
quote:
Originally posted by stuczuba

Think you're spot on about splitting cos of their age though that last tour with U2 does sound awful too.

I don't get the Trompe is the first solo album - at the time it was just the next Pixies album. The metal/rock angle was definitely a thing in a lot of UK articles. If anything, Theme from Narc was being put up as a 'look how much fun we had recording the album' anecdote.

Narc was awesome.



While I think there is more Kim on Trompe than we first realized almost 30 years ago, I think the thinking is it’s closer on the needle to FB and TOTY than CoP and SR
stuczuba Posted - 05/26/2020 : 10:21:30
Think you're spot on about splitting cos of their age though that last tour with U2 does sound awful too.

I don't get the Trompe is the first solo album - at the time it was just the next Pixies album. The metal/rock angle was definitely a thing in a lot of UK articles. If anything, Theme from Narc was being put up as a 'look how much fun we had recording the album' anecdote.

Narc was awesome.
Jason Posted - 05/21/2020 : 13:22:04
Thank you so much. I think on "Bossanova" Black Francis starts to slowly turn into Frank Black, but on "Trompe le Monde", he's mutated further into his future state. Eric Drew Feldman is also so important to the first two Frank Black albums that I think if the Pixies somehow continued after "Trompe le Monde", he would have likely been the "fifth Pixie". He did tour with them in 1991 and '92 and on stage added keyboard to some old Pixies songs even (see the "Live at Brixton" concert video). So, Feldman's presence is a turning point for me.

And, yes, I'm looking forward to the future entries, too. I have a bunch of notes. They're a big mess. But I'm going to make sense of them because that's my idea of fun.

Right now, the next five entries look like this

#6 FRANK BLACK
#7 TEENAGER OF THE YEAR
#8 PEEL SESSION EP WITH TEENAGE FANCLUB
#9 BLACK SESSIONS LIVE
#10 THE CULT OF RAY

Those entries are set in stone, but the numbers aren't.

I might do the HANG ON TO YOUR EGO single in there as #7, but I'm not sure, yet. I don't want to get too into the collector weirdo thing, but those B-sides never showed up anywhere else!
Bedbug Posted - 05/21/2020 : 05:06:46
Great stuff Jason. Loved every minute of reading this. And I learned a few things!

I am definitely one of the people who considers this the first FB solo album, although I guess sometimes I think Bossanova would qualify too. I remember buying the TLM cassette tape the week it came out. At the time I still thought Surfer and Doolittle were better, but my how times have changed. Trompe is the best thing he's ever done in my opinion (as I think I voted in album survivor).

You really do justice to all of the albums that you cover. Can't wait for the article on "Frank Black."

And that 1996 quote of him in the Dallas Observer, wow, that is heavy.

I can't ever seem to find much in the way of behind the scenes of the recording of TLM out there. If you know any please pass along. I think it deserves some 331/3 or Past is Prologue type treatment. This album transports me back to high school without ever getting old. That is talent.

Thanks again for writing these and sharing with us.
Jason Posted - 05/19/2020 : 16:59:46
Thanks stuczuba!

Also...
Frank Black-O-Rama! #5: TROMPE LE MONDE
http://www.theconstantbleeder.com/2020/05/20/frank-black-o-rama-5-trompe-le-monde/

Break-ups and aliens and faxes.

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