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chrisislies Posted - 07/26/2005 : 18:48:51
this article talks about honeycomb among others things, but the thing that really caught my eye was this quote

"His latest group, the Catholics, had ended badly, and so had his marriage. He'd moved from Los Angeles to Oregon, where he didn't know a soul, and while there was a new girlfriend, the excitement of the relationship was balanced by the chaos of its growing pains."

huh? did i miss something?

orignal story
http://www.calendarlive.com/music/cl-et-black23jul23,0,1885313.story
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Ten Percenter Posted - 08/08/2005 : 07:10:28
Found it:

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13534

"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues)
Ten Percenter Posted - 08/08/2005 : 07:01:23
quote:
Originally posted by ramona

quote:
Originally posted by dayanara

quote:
Originally posted by floop

i don't tend to trust journalists. i'll believe that when i hear it from one of them



i can't remember where and i'm too lazy to look, but in one of the recent interviews frank mentioned that there was actual physical fighting within the band. i'd say that counts as ending badly.





Yeah, was an article that 10%er posted where Frank was quoted saying (am paraphrasing) "fist fights on the tour bus, trashed hotel rooms, personal lives spilling over" but I can't find it now either.

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It was the Mojo review - see the FB making Noise section.

"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues)
anazgnos Posted - 08/06/2005 : 12:23:06
If a journalist is writing about a band or a relationship ending and they have no direct evidence as to how/why it ended, they will always assume that it ended badly.
kathryn Posted - 07/29/2005 : 12:17:47
I don't have it. I sent you an email.


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
mosleyk Posted - 07/29/2005 : 11:58:27
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

quote:
Originally posted by mosleyk

Forgot to mention....

I saw them too in 2003 in the States. Great show! I have been trying forever to get a copy of it. Frank joked and talked (although he is never a huge talker on stage) and played 2-3 encore songs. He seemed in very good spirits.



which show are you looking for?


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank




It was the 4/13/2003 Portland, Oregon show. We just had the best time at the show, and would love a copy. Frank did Dog in the Sand as one of his encores and it was just haunting. I have searched and searched
fbc Posted - 07/29/2005 : 11:44:07
promises promises

kathryn Posted - 07/29/2005 : 11:03:35
Could be time for a spanking!


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
fbc Posted - 07/29/2005 : 10:59:04
oh, him.

thats a catholics song, right?

kathryn Posted - 07/29/2005 : 10:50:08
Billy Radcliffe saw what the devil man saw a spot of blue in the black of the eye of the lord now billy radcliffe saw what the devil had and I feel very bad for william radcliffe


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
fbc Posted - 07/29/2005 : 10:46:54
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn


quote:
Originally posted by fbc

Pixies' split wasn't too amicable, yet they still found a way back
There's always hope for the Catholics.

Just not yet.



Hallefuckinglujah! You have seen the light and you're speaking the truth, fbc. Praise the lord!




but was nothing to do with the lord (who?)

ramona Posted - 07/29/2005 : 10:34:09
quote:
Originally posted by dayanara

quote:
Originally posted by floop

i don't tend to trust journalists. i'll believe that when i hear it from one of them



i can't remember where and i'm too lazy to look, but in one of the recent interviews frank mentioned that there was actual physical fighting within the band. i'd say that counts as ending badly.





Yeah, was an article that 10%er posted where Frank was quoted saying (am paraphrasing) "fist fights on the tour bus, trashed hotel rooms, personal lives spilling over" but I can't find it now either.

_____________________________________________________________________
"I’m not ashamed to say I want rock & roll..."

* * * * * * * * * * *
http://prettycrabby.com
Carl Posted - 07/28/2005 : 22:49:03
Young is recording his next album in Nashville, with Spooner Oldham involved, BTW!

Yeah, The Catholics are kind of like Crazy Horse, that's a good comparison Stu!
Stuart Posted - 07/28/2005 : 21:23:47
Going slightly off at a tangent... does anyone know how many Neil Young solo albums there are compared to his work with Crazy Horse. I reckon there might be a chance that the Catholics become a bit like Crazy Horse, where Frank gets them together from time to time to make a new album.

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
floop Posted - 07/28/2005 : 18:14:07
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

Do you think that maybe Frank had an agreement to a certain number of albums with the Catholics before they were allowed to disband... or is that just record company shit?



that's just record company shit. the way Frank works his deals, being an independent, he can do whatever he wants
kathryn Posted - 07/28/2005 : 11:43:46

quote:
Originally posted by fbc

Pixies' split wasn't too amicable, yet they still found a way back
There's always hope for the Catholics.

Just not yet.



Hallefuckinglujah! You have seen the light and you're speaking the truth, fbc. Praise the lord!


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
kelladwella Posted - 07/28/2005 : 06:18:34
"Damn it, Hartigan. I warned you."
jediroller Posted - 07/28/2005 : 04:21:39
Hell of a way to end a partnership.


I jumped on the Frank Black Bandwagon/'Cause Pixies are so 2004
fbc Posted - 07/28/2005 : 04:06:36
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

Do you think that maybe Frank had an agreement to a certain number of albums with the Catholics before they were allowed to disband...

not sure, but i do know we have more Catholic records than FB solo.
this isn't right and needs amending

quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

"His latest group, the Catholics, had ended badly,...

Aslong as they ended i'm happy.

Pixies' split wasn't too amicable, yet they still found a way back
There's always hope for the Catholics.

Just not yet.

billgoodman Posted - 07/28/2005 : 03:32:24
and I still say they ended with their best cut (SMYT)


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God save the Noisies
Jason Posted - 07/28/2005 : 00:04:05
I don't know anything, but it seems to me that the Catholics might have just ended (for now, at least) naturally.

If you look at the gigography on this site, you'll see that band spent a lot of time touring together. It's staggering how much touring they did. They were always out there. For years, the breaks in touring were few and not very long. Even among very mature people, there's lots of room there for friction among band members.
Stuart Posted - 07/27/2005 : 21:30:43
Do you think that maybe Frank had an agreement to a certain number of albums with the Catholics before they were allowed to disband... or is that just record company shit?

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
Stuart Posted - 07/27/2005 : 21:28:37
You never know, Frank might be just taking the piss... Ive heard a few interviews when he's been joking about the messy break up with the Pixies, talking about physically fighting but doing it tongue in cheek. Tongue in cheek doesn't come across in magazine articles and is extremely easy to misinterpret.

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
kathryn Posted - 07/27/2005 : 18:42:18
quote:
Originally posted by mosleyk

Forgot to mention....

I saw them too in 2003 in the States. Great show! I have been trying forever to get a copy of it. Frank joked and talked (although he is never a huge talker on stage) and played 2-3 encore songs. He seemed in very good spirits.



which show are you looking for?


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
mosleyk Posted - 07/27/2005 : 16:54:17
Forgot to mention....

I saw them too in 2003 in the States. Great show! I have been trying forever to get a copy of it. Frank joked and talked (although he is never a huge talker on stage) and played 2-3 encore songs. He seemed in very good spirits.
TRANSMARINE Posted - 07/27/2005 : 16:47:40
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

I believe it's true
to add more to the hypothese:
I thought the 2003 Catholic tour was definately not what it was in 2001
(the last years he toured europe, no shows in 2002 here I believe)
2001 long shows, 2-3 hours, more talking, more spontanious, fucking blew my mind
2003 were the shows frank didn't say anything, ramonesque playing song after song,
kind of a let down (only compared to the 2001 shows)

Don't get me wrong
seeing Frank with the catholics 20 cm away from you is mind blowing
whish it would happen again


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God save the Noisies



I saw them at the Galaxy Theater in Orange County, Calif. in 2002. May, I believe. Incredible show, lasted well over 2 hrs with a ton of Devil's Workshop and BLD material.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN

Sorry, billgoodman. Didn't notice you meant Europe. But they were still incredible in 2002 and 2003 here in the states.
mosleyk Posted - 07/27/2005 : 16:35:58
The whole bit about Frank not knowing a soul in Oregon is wrong too. He has some family that lives here....unless they have moved.
billgoodman Posted - 07/27/2005 : 14:26:16
I believe it's true
to add more to the hypothese:
I thought the 2003 Catholic tour was definately not what it was in 2001
(the last years he toured europe, no shows in 2002 here I believe)
2001 long shows, 2-3 hours, more talking, more spontanious, fucking blew my mind
2003 were the shows frank didn't say anything, ramonesque playing song after song,
kind of a let down (only compared to the 2001 shows)

Don't get me wrong
seeing Frank with the catholics 20 cm away from you is mind blowing
whish it would happen again


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God save the Noisies
vilainde Posted - 07/27/2005 : 13:46:11
no! it's a conspiracy!


Denis

I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul!
kingphilbert Posted - 07/27/2005 : 13:31:52
Is that UNCUT statement that vilainde posted a few up true?


"I mix twinkie's and ding-dong's all the time. In Europe, they call it a Dinkie!"
PixieSteve Posted - 07/27/2005 : 04:04:23
yeah, it almost fell on its arse just before it began


Oh let it linger
starmekitten Posted - 07/27/2005 : 03:59:44
quote:
Pixies tour wasn’t happening


*cough*


and you're questioning the sciences
and questioning religion
you're looking like an idiot
and you no longer care.

vilainde Posted - 07/27/2005 : 00:33:21
OK I got it, it's from the Uncut interview:

<<How come you decided to make the record on the eve of the reunion tour?

Well, ‘cause I called Tiven and said the Pixies tour wasn’t happening: “We’re all fightin’ and everything.” And then I had just finished the Catholics, and even if we didn’t say it was the last tour it sure felt like the fuckin’ last tour. We’d been playing together a long time, ten years of hard touring and loading our own gear and not making a lotta money out of it, and we’re hittin’ the mid-life crisis. And they’re all getting mad at me ‘cause I’m forcing them to record live to two-track for the umpteenth time. So it was like, “Alright, Tiven, I don’t know what I’m doing this year, I just got divorced, the Pixies tour ain’t happening, I’m ready to do Black on Blonde.”>>


Denis

I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul!
vilainde Posted - 07/27/2005 : 00:30:29
yeah, I read a bunch of interviews where Frank mentioned the last Catholics tour going really bad. There was something about the Catholics being bored of recording to 2-track, could someone find the article?



Denis

I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul!
floop Posted - 07/26/2005 : 22:55:11
did it have something to do with ping pong?
dayanara Posted - 07/26/2005 : 22:47:56
quote:
Originally posted by floop

i don't tend to trust journalists. i'll believe that when i hear it from one of them



i can't remember where and i'm too lazy to look, but in one of the recent interviews frank mentioned that there was actual physical fighting within the band. i'd say that counts as ending badly.


i am sitting here observing my emotional discomfort.

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