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| Sir Rockabye |
Posted - 09/27/2004 : 18:22:40
So, since school has started again, I've been in this funk for the past few weeks. I usually am one of the few kids who enjoy school, but after ten odd years, it just seems pointless. I want to enrich myself, better myself, but school can't really provide me with that anymore. Instead, it’s just monotonous. It seems that every single day of the last month has been identical. I attend school. Come home, study, go to sleep, repeat. I need something important in my life. Even if it isn't important, I need something different. Sometimes I wish even something bad might happen, you know, just to make a difference. Nothing tragic of course, but maybe something that might take my mind off of school. Then there’s that whole pressure situation of picking colleges. Every adult I meet nowadays has to ask me where I want to attend, or what I want to study. How should I know? I'm still just this kid. Kids don't go to college. College is reserved for people on TV and in movies. On one hand, I want to get out of high school as quickly as I can, but on the other, I'm scared of becoming this older person with responsibilities and stuff. All of my teachers make a point of telling me that all of my decisions today will affect my future. That makes me nervous. Is the chemistry test I fail tomorrow going to impact my future? Anyway, seeing as how most of you FB.netters are all graduated, at least from high school, I was hoping maybe you could give me some insight. Maybe you felt like I do in high school. Maybe just some reassuring thoughts would help me out. Thanks.
Hey nuclear war and a hot bed of trouble, make with the pennance, repent on the double. |
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| Sir Rockabye |
Posted - 11/24/2004 : 11:09:40
Great actually. Actually, tonight we are realeasing our first EP. We decided today would be a good date, because it is the one year anniversary of our first show. So we will be playing a basement show, and releasing our noise to the public. I'm really excited for tonight, I'm really expecting a blast. Thanks for asking, by the way.
I will never say the word procrastinate again, I'll never see myself in the mirror with my eyes closed. |
| Daisy Girl |
Posted - 11/23/2004 : 17:49:53
hey, how's the band Sir Rockabye?
http://www.campervanbeethoven.com/gearstolen/ |
| speedy_m |
Posted - 11/23/2004 : 14:21:57
quote:
Originally posted by SpudBoy
For me, the key was understanding that although I could not change my circumstances, I could change my reaction to those circumstances.
It took me many years to realize this, and it's a wonderful thing SpudBoy; I try to apply this thinking to every problem I face. I don't always succeed, but keeping this in mind helps to alter your perceptions about what's happening around you, especially things that are seemingly (or actually) out of your control. |
| Sir Rockabye |
Posted - 11/23/2004 : 13:55:28
"Somebody handing you a certificate to give you permission to do what you already can is just as useless as it sounds".
I like that.
Thanks for the advice, the statement Newo posted, while unfortuante, is very accurate. And thanks Spudboy for clearing that up.
Turn the spit on that pig and kick the drum and let me down.
Put my clarinet beneath your bed 'til I get back in town.
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| Newo |
Posted - 11/23/2004 : 04:03:41
I found the below quote at http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/brotherhoodpart7.shtml, Sir Rockabye, and it pretty much sums up what I found school to be like, with the exception of my art teacher - he kicked ass. The best news I can offer is if you don't graduate, it doesn't matter in the least. Apart from one English paper where I turned myself into a Shakespeare quoting-machine to see what it was like, I have never studied hard for an exam in my life (I thought things would be different when I took a philosophy degree in university, then it turned out to be just a degree in memorising and spitting out), though I did worry initially about not keeping up. I now work as a writer, musician, translator and teacher (guitar and English, my own lessons), and Spudboy's remark is spot-on, you make your own scene. If you're really determined you'll make your mark yourself, somebody handing you a certificate to give you permission to do what you already can is just as useless as it sounds. I hope that's been of some help and I wish you all the best.
Regards,
Owen
"The lessons taught in the schools of today are those of confusion (there is no meaning), hierarchical position (envy those above, despise those below), dependency ('success' is measured by the opinion of others and only 'experts' know the truth), obedience (do as others instruct in order to progress) and above all, conformity. A child is simply there to be filled with System-accepted 'facts', regimentally hurried from one lesson to the next to be bombarded with apparently unrelated information with any genuine enthusiasm or interest stifled in the boredom of classroom conformity. A child's intelligence is then measured by his or her meek receptivity to the systematic brainwashing and his or her ability to regurgitate these 'facts' in examinations, whilst the teacher's performance is evaluated by the speed and completeness of the indoctrination. The curriculum is very carefully controlled with standardised textbooks which teachers, whatever their personal feelings on the subject, have to teach in order to retain their jobs. Real questions about the nature of life, the reasons behind the contradictions in accepted historical absurdities, the dreams of self-expression have no part in the straitjacket of System education. People are 'consumers' and cogs in the corporate machine, and those who can accept this role are what the education process call successful'. If conformity is the price of 'success', those who seek alternative views and reject the indoctrination are made to experience shame and a sense of failure. We are taught that the Elite system of corporate-led consumerism has been freely created and that it provides the only answer for a meaningful, worthwhile life. Childhood happiness, enthusiasm and excitement for life are suffocated as we are taught to operate within a system which denies the very essences of humanity – love and the ability to question and search for the truth of our current existence."
Edit - nice Waits sig, by the bye.
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Moving from the clown to the jester will mean moving from similar to same, from alike to identical, from comparable to analogous. Though applied differently, the colours used on one can be used on another, and a couple of changes of costume will rapidly transform the jester into a clown and the clown into a jester. Strictly speaking, they almost duplicate each other as regards clothes and function, the only difference between them, from a social point of view, is that clowns do not usually visit the palaces of kings. |
| SpudBoy |
Posted - 11/22/2004 : 20:17:53
Just that relative to other things that occurred at the time and since, dealing with the paperwork, tests, and moron teachers, counselors, and principals was pretty damn easy. Especially since I didn't care about anything past getting through it so I could move the hell on with things.
The other people at school and in the social circles outside those walls managed to suck in a grandiose manner, on the other hand. Lots of intimidation, bullying/fights/shootings, social isolation, etc. Some of that can last a little longer (I was getting jumped for being an oddball into my college years), but I tried to channel it into the music I was making in the bands I was in.
Long story short, the amount of bullshit errata (job bureaucracy, bills, etc) you will have to put up with goes up, but people chill out for the most part later on.
Don't take no shit off of anybody, and be nice to old ladies.
edit: exemplification
*festoon* |
| Sir Rockabye |
Posted - 11/22/2004 : 20:03:29
Yeah, what Dean said. Good post. I don't like to think of myself as a pessimist, although I guess what I posted might indicate that. Truth be told, I think I was just bummed out when I made the original thread, and since, I've put everything in perspective, or at least tried to. I consider myself lucky that I don't have to deal with what are considered "serious problems" like the ones Spudboy listed above (family issues, violence, and death amongst friends etc.), so I can see where my highschool experience is, and will be a more enjoyable one than many have experienced. The only thing I either disagree with, or don't understand is "the school part is sissy". What do you mean?
Turn the spit on that pig and kick the drum and let me down.
Put my clarinet beneath your bed 'til I get back in town.
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| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 11/22/2004 : 19:49:19
Great post, I agree wholeheartedly.
 "Join the Cult of Frank 2.0 / And you'll be enlightened (free for 1.x members)" |
| SpudBoy |
Posted - 11/22/2004 : 19:39:17
For me, high school itself (the school part) was something that required administrative attention. My guidance counselor told me that people like me never make it anywhere. On the whole, it was something I tried to ignore. Outside of the school aspect, my life was one of the exceptions - a lot of family issues, violence, and death amongst friends. Life since has been easy street by comparison.
So, I agree with Ebb that the school part is sissy. I also agree with other posters that the parts of life during that era are far from it. For me, the key was understanding that although I could not change my circumstances, I could change my reaction to those circumstances. Thus was born a very fucked up sense of humor. By gaining that, I was able to change my circumstances when the opportunities presented themselves.
As far as the band goes, remember: you make your own scene, and you never know where it can lead you.
I prefer skeptical optimism - I find pessimism to be too convenient a perspective from which to limit yourself.
*festoon* |
| VoVat |
Posted - 09/29/2004 : 19:34:56
I have to say that I wasn't too fond of high school myself. No, it wasn't as bad as some people's experiences, but I was still pretty frustrated most of the time. I guess part of that is just my own personality, but outside factors didn't help things much.
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 23:24:53
keeping your problems in perspective won't make them go away but it makes them a lot easier to handle.
and in a lot of cases you realize you can just ignore them because they are meaningless (for example, popularity and meeting other people's expectations.) |
| floop |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 13:16:24
quote:
Originally posted by NimrodsSon
I can answer that one for you: yes, but there's still nothing like a good old handwritten cheat sheet that you can conceal in the palm of your hand or under your shirt.
¡Viva los Católicos!
i'm glad to hear that some traditions don't go out of style.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
| NimrodsSon |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 12:56:34
I can answer that one for you: yes, but there's still nothing like a good old handwritten cheat sheet that you can conceal in the palm of your hand or under your shirt.
¡Viva los Católicos! |
| Sir Rockabye |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 12:55:25
If I owned a cell phone, I could probably give you a better answer than yes. I'm sure there are ways to that, yes.
Hey nuclear war and a hot bed of trouble, make with the pennance, repent on the double. |
| floop |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 12:47:33
so i have to ask you Sir Rockaby, as someone who is long out of high school...
has the invention of cell phones and text messaging revolutionized cheating on tests?
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
| Sir Rockabye |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 12:44:44
Wow. Thanks everybody for all of the responses.
I think that my school falls under the category of "Putting too much pressure on students to excel" that Floop was talking about. The belief that if a student isn't enrolled in all honors and AP classes they will never be a success in life runs rampant. It’s a shame that all of the school's money goes towards new calculators and textbooks, which are of course valid purchases, and so little of it goes towards updating the other non-academic departments (Art, Drama). Like many of you said, I'll have to just try my best to have a good time. I think that I'm lucky enough not to have a lot of the issues that many of you dealt with throughout your youths, present in mine.
I think my main complaint was addressed by Ramona, and some others. I'm ready to start my real life, I guess. There’s a lot I'm sure, that I will miss when high school is gone, but for now, the bad things outweigh the good. I'm not really looking to the responsibilities of adult-hood, but I think that by attending college, or even taking a year off like Cheeseman suggested could alleviate those kinds of things.
I must agree with a lot of what Ebb said though. I must admit, like most teenagers of my day, I'm pretty self-absorbed. I don't really think of the tragedies of the world daily. In perspective, yes, they make my problems seem pointless and unimportant. But recognizing these atrocities and such don't make smaller problems disappear.
I'm sure I will survive high school, as have all of you, and most people who attend for that matter. Everybody's comments have help put me in a better mind frame, so thanks.
Hey nuclear war and a hot bed of trouble, make with the pennance, repent on the double. |
| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 11:58:34
well the level of violence you experienced is the exception, not the rule. it's really unfortunate.
but i was talking in generalities, and of course there are exceptions. there are students who get raped by teachers, and kids who die of food poisoning from those awful school lunches.
but my point was for the most part, high school is easy, yet everyone pretends it's so hard for them. they just blow their own problems out of proportion. |
| floop |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 11:54:06
i think there's too much pressure put on kids these days. i went to a good high school and i knew kids who's parents made them study from the time they got home till they went to bed. you must get a 4.5 grade point average and an A+ on every test or you won't get into the right college, your life will be ruined forever etc.. there really is that sentiment in some schools, and with some parents. but like monsiur said, it depends on your personal experience.
i had a good time in high school. for me, the work wasn't that hard (because i didn't try that hard and my parents didn't put much pressure on me about grades).. but the hard part was the growing up stuff. conflicts with parents, becoming an adult.. all that stuff.
if i can impart one bit of advice, it's to enjoy your time while you're young.. don't be too hard on yourself if you're not valedictorian of your class. most valedictorians are usually boring people anyway.
one thing i found: looking at the general populace of my graduating class, you'd be surprised where people end up. i know kids who got the highest grades, went to best colleges etc.. yet still have relatively lame, not-exceptionally-high-paying jobs. and i also know kids who were trouble makers and below-average students who are doing very well for themselves. i think being a well-rounded person is important. being happy is the most important.
your goals and ideas of what you want to do will probably change several times.. you don't need to worry about having specific career goals when you're stinking 16 or 17. enjoy being a kid.
now go out and cause some mischief. i command you!
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
| n/a |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 11:48:41
quote:
Originally posted by Ebb Vicious
high school is a fucking joke and if it seemed like otherwise to you then you did it to yourself.
Fuck that.
My sadomasochistic tendancies don't run that fucking deep, people can only post on here for the large part based on their personal experiences, mine sucked and don't you dare try to invalidate that by insinuating I did it to myself
I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 11:30:17
also agreed with harringk.
i wish i had posessed the courage and had been encouraged to pursue things i really wanted to do. instead, being the pessimist i am, i knew i could get work doing computer programming so i went with that.
you definitely have an opportunity to totally fail while you're young and still recover. |
| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 11:15:35
I agree with harringk's last point wholeheartedly.
"You ever seen a man say goodbye to a shoe?"
"Yes, once..." |
| harringk |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 11:12:46
Sir Rockabye,
I think taking a year off between high school and college (if you want to go to college) is a great idea. I wish I would've done that. My best advice is this:
-- Make you decisions for yourself and nobody else. Do what you think you should do, not what you think other people think you should do. That doesn't mean don't listen to other people's advice, but its your life and you have to live it for yourself.
-- Take risks while you're young. Pursue your dream job while you still have plenty of time to recover if it doesn't work out. It is also much easier to take risks before you have the responsibility of a family.
-- Always choose something you enjoy doing over money. I know it is a cliche but that doesn't mean it isn't true. Most young people think that the extra money will make up for working a job you don't really love to do...it won't. |
| bumblebeeboy2 |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 11:07:56
life doesn't get any better, enjoy being at school kids... i wish i was young still! 
in fact i enjoyed high school, looking at me you'd probably think i got the shit kicked out of me day in day out, but i was lucky i guess, had a load of mates and we stuck together and didn't get any trouble...
The Monkey Helper has arrived http://www.monkeyhelper.co.uk |
| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 10:19:42
quote:
Originally posted by TheCroutonFuton
Lord knows that people you love only die of chronic diseases when you're out of high-school...
no but my point is that's part of real life and not part of high school. duh.
high school is a fucking joke and if it seemed like otherwise to you then you did it to yourself. school was rough for me until about halfway through junior high when i realized that all the "difficulties" were really under my control and i can change my situation. so i did.
like i said before those of you who think high school was so hard, maybe you'll be fortunate and never be proven wrong. but reality is a lot harder.
edit:
also, highschool kids kill themselves because nowadays they are encouraged to be self-absorbed. if we taught kids there is a big world outside themselves that is more important than their own petty baloney it would help a lot of them get over it and see the forest past the trees, so to speak.
it's very easy to get caught up in your own little pile of crap, and not realize that in the big scheme of things the fact that jimmy took your lunch money or janey doesn't want to go to the dance with you really doesn't matter.
i like how some people have assumed because i say it's easy that means i was popular or something. i had no friends, but i didn't care. why would i? they're just children. i made friends that were in college and hung out with them. i hated being in class, so i skipped a lot.
my point is not that the bad things in life don't happen to teenagers, they do. look at the title of the thread again.
my point is that high school is a joke, and asking "how to survive it?" is ridiculous. |
| n/a |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 10:14:24
quote:
Originally posted by realmeanmotorscutor
quote:
Originally posted by Tre
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And RMMS do you think it might not help if you quit adding fuel to the fucking fire?
Not quite sure what you're asking me here. What's with the double negatives? And "fucking fire"? Why so hostile toward me? Seems we agree; what's your problem? Do you just decide you dislike someone on the boards and oppose them from then on without paying any mind to the actual opinions expressed? And what bloody fire are you talking about? The fire of Ebb, because I wasn't aware that this was a heated debate among many posters? I was simply pointing out that ebb is an asshole (something people should do at every opportunity) and that he never has anything positive to say. Hell, even if he were consistently witty in his bashings, I might respect the guy; I'd even enjoy being zinged by him. But he isn't consistently witty. He's a failed comedian and he just becomes obnoxious. Perhaps if he posted sparingly his remarks would be more appreciated. As it is, he's run out of solid material. So Tre, could you re-evaluate your method of responding to me?
Love to.
I dislike sweeping statements as a rule but yeah highschoool is not all it's cracked up to be for everyone. I don't agree with all of sir rockabyes post, wishing something bad would happen is ridiculous, if you want something to happen make something good happen, don't wait for it to happen.
I don't have any personal dislike for you, I have no idea who you are, I take each post at it's own value. It has been broadly noted on the forum that ebb is obnoxious but it might help if you didn't jump sucker-fish like at every post. The more you post the easier it makes it for him to be shitty towards you, hence fuelling the fire. Plus, you're not being much better here I think, the he startd it first cuts no mustard on this forum I've noticed.
But yeah, please to pick up on the only part of my long post pertaining to you, feel free to ignore that the whole post is angry and take it as personal, whatever you do don't forget to point out my grammatical errors and be generally patronising, disregard the language in the rest of the post and make my use of the word fucking a you issue, feel valid, really, great.
I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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| Daisy Girl |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 09:53:43
No, but I wish the US did. The US doesn't give young people a break to explore themselves and just take some time off.
I guess as far as problems go, it's just not something you can judge a book by the cover. Even the popular people who would make fun of me had some kind of some kind of probelem... I think by volunteering and spending time with my friends, I was able to escape those problems-- that time just helped me to keep my sanity. I know it sounds happy go lucky on the surface but it wasn't-- I think just like most people.
So I think the bottom line that goes for any point in life that no matter how much it sucks, just carve out some time to read a book, make some music, or help someone else and that is going to give you a little piece of happiness that lasts a long way and makes the rest of the crap a little easier to deal with. |
| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 09:38:06
Do you guys ever take a gap year? I mean, between high school and college? Thats becoming increasingly popular here, it gives you a chance to work a bit, or travel, or volunteer or something.
Get out and see a bit of the world, experience life. I made the mistake of working the whole way through, living at home, so I didn't get all the benefit (I got the money instead), but my brother travelled and taught English in South Africa for five months and he came back a completely different person.
"You ever seen a man say goodbye to a shoe?"
"Yes, once..." |
| ramona |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 09:07:57
Hey Sir Rockabye,
I'm sorry you are feeling this way. I felt very much the same in my last couple years of high school and only went to college b/c I felt like it was what everyone else did and what else was there to do (especially in the rural town where I grew up). 5 months later, I dropped out and moved to Boston and began my REAL LIFE. I think the shitty parts of high school prepared me for a lot of other things and for some people to negate what you are going through is pretty damn sucky in my opinion. No one knows what your experience is, and no one can tell you what to do, there is a quote I love which says "if you are going through hell, keep going". And I think that is all you can do right now.
Anyway, I don't think college is essential right after high school - I think it is great (if you can) to take some time and figure out where your head is. Maybe take a trip and see what else is out there. Get a job and see if you like it, etc. There are many options and to say the whole wide world is out there is not an overstatement.
Hang in there, it will go by and you will be onto your real (chosen) life soon enough - whatever that may be - just do your best to get through it.
Good luck. 
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No one I ever knew, or have spoken to, resembles you
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| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 08:03:39
Sir Rockabye, relax. It will all be over in the blink of an eye and even if it sucked you'll eventually look back fondly on the time.
Do what you can, when you can.
Try to stay positive.
College will happen.
You don't have to be a superkid.
Face each day with the knowledge that very few of the people around you right now will matter in the slightest; you will meet the important ones in college and after.
Senior year, right? Have FUN, then.
If you're trying to go Ivy League, then bust your balls and hit the 4.0 veledictorian goal.
If not, and if you haven't been a complete loser for the past three years, you can afford to let a few things slide this year. Don't fail anything, but don't kill yourself - literally or figuratively.
Seriously, man - the best 4-7 years of your life lie just ahead.
Don't worry about picking a college.
You can transfer if you don't like the first one.
When you do get to college, STAY THERE for at least the entire first semester.
oh, and don't mind Ebb. He's probably had a pretty rough life. Not everyone has.
Personally, I hated high school. I was unreasonably depressed, morose, angry.
I barely made it out.
You don't have to be that.
Being positive and involved IS NOT UNCOOL.
Good luck.
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the head catatonic from the roller rink |
| slaveish |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 07:25:29
I have strong opinions on this because I made the wrong decisions initially, based on the same scenario you're talking about. I'm so glad you're asking the advice of adults- people with life experience who aren't your teachers, parents, or advisors. My experience comes from not having any idea of what I wanted to do after high school, getting no advice from the guidance counselor or my parents, only pressure to "do something!" and that meant go to college. So I wasted four years in a business school, worked 3 1/2 in retail, and finally realized that I was an artist and went back to school for a degree in art. Since then my world opened up and I haven't regretted a thing. I was exposed to art, film, music, dance, and life that I never experienced growing up in the dreary suburbs.
So my advice is to not listen to people that tell you that you must make a decision and start on with your adult life of work and more work. Live a little- travel if you can. Take non-college level classes in things that interest you, It's far less expensive, and you can experiment. I'm working now at a dance school (something else I started later in life) and I see all these young people living in New York city, studying dance, having a great time. I wish I had the knowledge to do that when I was 17. good luck!
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| realmeanmotorscutor |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 07:19:49
quote:
Originally posted by Tre
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And RMMS do you think it might not help if you quit adding fuel to the fucking fire?
Not quite sure what you're asking me here. What's with the double negatives? And "fucking fire"? Why so hostile toward me? Seems we agree; what's your problem? Do you just decide you dislike someone on the boards and oppose them from then on without paying any mind to the actual opinions expressed? And what bloody fire are you talking about? The fire of Ebb, because I wasn't aware that this was a heated debate among many posters? I was simply pointing out that ebb is an asshole (something people should do at every opportunity) and that he never has anything positive to say. Hell, even if he were consistently witty in his bashings, I might respect the guy; I'd even enjoy being zinged by him. But he isn't consistently witty. He's a failed comedian and he just becomes obnoxious. Perhaps if he posted sparingly his remarks would be more appreciated. As it is, he's run out of solid material. So Tre, could you re-evaluate your method of responding to me?
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| n/a |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 07:07:54
hmmm.
Nah, fuck it, gonna pip in my two-penneth
High School personally, in fact all time of schooling up until university, was shit. Unbelievably horribly shit. Maybe my life hasn't vastly improved since then, the "adult" pressures are hard to deal with but I'm a hell of a lot more in control of things then I was back then.
I mean, I look back and all I remember was a time of getting the shit kicked out of me for being the school freak, a time of being on my own all the time because my face didn't fit, a time of endless fights and endlessly trying to find somewhere quiet and on my own, a time of looking after my mum going through a horrible breakdown after an extremely nasty divorce, nursing her through meningitis and a list of other ailments she suffered from being miserable and rundown, the time a guy I knew since I was a baby hung himself, a time when I was too emotionally weak to defend myself, a time where on an averge evening I'd be sat in my room bleeding my arms out of frustration, a time of long sleeves even in the hottest summer, a time where I couldn't sleep, a time of paranoia, I'd check the doors the windows the cooker the fire, I'd stand outside my brothers and my mums rooms making sure I could hear them still breathing, a time of being so horribly poor eating shit crap food and wearing the most horrible hand me downs, another reason for a beating in the eyes of my fellow 'children' the constant fucking rodent infestations in our two bedroomed terrace in the arse end of birmingham, a time where once I found a friend I found he was another suicidal part in my life, a time of listening to him collapse down the phone and being able to do fuck all about it, a time of failiure and frustration.
Highschool held no joy for me, there was no giggling with my friends in the playground, no friends for a fucking start, no trips to the cinema and cosy sleep overs, no cookies and fucking milk when I got home, no childhood sweetheart, I keep in touch with one person from those school times, one. The rest of the fuckers I wouldn't care if they burned tomorrow. I have no fun and fabulous high school memories, none at all.
So fuck this highschool is easy bullshit. We make our own problems? I wished every night for those things to go away, I loved learning and it's all I wanted to do, If I could take away the heartache and bullshit I'd do it like a shot. Why to teenagers kill themselves? I'd love to be ask stephen why he did it (at 11 years of age) but he's dead so I can't! His Dad came to visit me though, that night, told me how his sister (5 years old) found him hanging by his school-tie, about the ressus failing about stephen vomiting into his mouth as he tried, how the paramedics took half an hour to arrive, he told me how much he'd hated school, how much he'd hated his mum and by all accounts she hated him, just another lonley and tired kid living in scumsville. We were kids, what can you do? You don't have the authority or the ability to fix things, you can't always take yourself out of the situaion, and sometimes those people who can take you out of that situation are in no fit state to do anything about it or even realise whats going on.
So I'm glad lots of you have a plethora of lovely highschool memories, and I'm even pleased for those who had a nicely mundane few years but you can fuck off anyone who thinks it was like this for everyone.
And RMMS do you think it might not help if you quit adding fuel to the fucking fire?
I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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| PsychicTwin |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 06:56:57
Sir Rockabye-
Everyone here has a valid point. Yes, even Ebb, however unilateral and uncouth his manner of expressing it is.
High School is a royal pain in the ass...but its also a lot of fun (at least it was for me). You are subservient to teachers/parents/etc. but you are also more free than you'll ever be because you are young and don't have any of life's "real" concerns weighing down on your head. I say "real" because high school has its trials and tribulations just like any other part of life.
My best advice is this: college (if you go) will be far far more fun, and is actually quite a good reason to rough it through high school and try to do fairly well. Then again, remember that you won't be 17 forever and that the friends you have now may be your friends 10 years down the line. Enjoy your youth and the relative lack of responsibilities you have now. Try to be constructive. You're playing music w/ a band, that's good...keep doing that. Just don't let the small things get you down, enjoy time with your friends as much as you can, and remember that high school will soon be over. Forever.
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| realmeanmotorscutor |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 03:13:51
and all of your posts here are a gigantic waste of time, but that doesn't stop you from posting. Come to think of it, going out of your way to be such a dick is a gigantic waste of time too . . . hmmmmmm.
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| realmeanmotorscutor |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 03:10:30
I'm not going to point you to any logic, Ebb. For some people it's just common GD sense. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to High School. I mean it; not a billion dollars. It was the worst period of my life. Life IS a lot easier now and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. Sure there are problems, but you're an adult now - if anything, you're the one who sounds like a cry baby. Did you ever grow up ebb? Now's the time when you can take charge; are you doing that through message boards. You're so fucking pathetic picking on a kid looking for help. I'm glad you didn't have a hard time in High School, but a lot of people do and some schools are worse than others. I agree with other posters that nothing is the end of the world, but you just try telling yourself that when you're depressed and everything seems hopeless. You shouldn't dismiss a hardship by comparing it to something worse; it does nothing to solve the actual problem. There IS a problem with the majority of High Schools in America and saying that having AIDS is worse than going to school doesn't mean shit. Grow up Ebb. You might have had a swell time, but accept that Sir Rockabye isn't. How about you offer some constructive advice rather than your usual useless, one-view remarks?
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