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| El Barto |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 17:48:00
This is a pretty liberal forum for the most part, so it's hard for me to imagine anyone here opposed to this, but hey, I'm often wrong. What are your thoughts on gay marriage, and laws/constitutional amendments to ban said marriages?
I personally think it's bullshit. Once again, it's a law which is attempting to tell people how to lead their lives, and I think such a law is total shit. I think the arguments against gay marriage have more holes in them than an inner-city gynocologist (har har). It's either about A) keeping tradition, or B) "think of the children." The biggest hole to the latter argument about a child growing up in a same-sex environment is "where's the mother/father?" Shit, you can say the same thing about all the single parents out there raising children. And not to bring traumatic experiences or exploit others, but how many documented cases have there been of step-fathers/mothers or mom/dad's girlfriends/boysfriends molesting their children? Are there any documented cases of same-sex couples molesting children? Think about it...
[Note: this thread was inspired by a debate I watched on PCN...local access...was flipping through channels and it's an issue which I'm interested in hearing about, because I personally believe we'll be seeing gay marriage being legal within the next several years...unless Boy George (W) gets his way]
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
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| VoVat |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 18:40:01
quote:
Yes, Im comparing it to a variety of my friends upbringing, mostly all 2.4 families.
To be fair, if I had to raise two-fifths of a child, I'd be pretty messed up too.
quote:
We can move on when you admit that you were molested by your preacher, and have severe moral and psychological repurcussions as a result of it.
At least the preacher bought him a soda first.
On a more serious note, I have to agree with this:
quote:
Im nto saying gay parents are better parents. What I am saying is why THE FUCK WOULD IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
Cattle in Korea / They can really moo. |
| El Barto |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 16:42:18
If you guys don't have anything constructive to add to the subject, stop posting and take it to private email.
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 15:17:08
We can move on when you admit that you were molested by your preacher, and have severe moral and psychological repurcussions as a result of it.
-Glacial
The twisted warped mind of Glacial strikes again.
You really dug deep into your subconscious to come up with that statement eh?, maybe you should write a book. |
| shineoftheever |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 14:43:22
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
quote:
Originally posted by shineoftheever
Darwin Darwin, Darwin...
When getting into an heated arguement it is important to be both gramattically correct and to spell things well. everyone knows dichodomy has an "aitch" in it. also, ...many kids would be lucky to have either parent or any parents. and, why did you precede argument with "logically" it should just be "logical", is that logical? 
 "Too cool for Cults"
Shiney,
Thank you for all of your advice and thank you for teaching me a new word, gramattically. I bet you have to be careful to not include it in letters to your grandma.
ah, touche! grandma would not like that. btw, original post was all sarcastic, no personal attack intended (not unlike the speeling and gramar errars). 
"Too cool for Cults" |
| glacial906 |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 10:02:53
quote:
Originally posted by The Champ
Glacial, boy, you sure are the useless hyporcite i had u pegged for. Thats awsome keep up the good work u faggit :) by the way next time try not to blow your short fuse it would have worked out better for you.
Can we move on now?
We can move on when you admit that you were molested by your preacher, and have severe moral and psychological repurcussions as a result of it. |
| GypsyDeath |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 09:00:41
well, hey, its workign for me thus far.
I drink and smoke
Until I choke
Until I'm broke
Cos' I want too |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 08:59:50
Will do, just so long as i get my point across. |
| GypsyDeath |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 08:26:56
Yeah, do it like i do champ, hit it randomly!
My new friends they dont belong here,
My old friends, they didnt want to stay
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| Monsieur |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 08:21:26
The Champ: I know I'm French and shouldn't say this, but your spelling is really hopeless. I mean, if you hit the keyboard randomly, you would probably get better results.
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| GypsyDeath |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 07:45:26
Yes, Im comparing it to a variety of my friends upbringing, mostly all 2.4 families.
I tried to restrain my self because the arguements got a little heated last time this topic was raised
Just thought I'd throw that in there... |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 07:42:58
Why would you restrain yourself, thats exactly what i want to hear, comments and facts. So you say you had a much happier child hood, what are you compairing that too? Straight families? |
| GypsyDeath |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 07:38:35
NEWS FLASH: Homosexuals are Human Beings, NOT Aliens
Just thought I'd throw that in there... |
| GypsyDeath |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 07:37:45
GRRGGGGHH, I truied, i tried to restrain myself, but I can NOT.
I was bought up in a very homosexual world. My mum is gay, and she and her long term partner bought me up for the majority of my life.
In relation to all of my friends lifes, mine was much more settled, much more open, hardly any arguements, I had and have a much better idea of the world, and was obviously much more open minded. I have a much higher social awareness than any of my friends. I generally had a much happier and healthier childhood. I had a childhood where no conversation was uncomfortable to talk about, nothing was a taboo, and i discussed everything with my mothers.
Im nto saying gay parents are better parents. What I am saying is why THE FUCK WOULD IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
Just thought I'd throw that in there... |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 06:56:19
Glacial, boy, you sure are the useless hyporcite i had u pegged for. Thats awsome keep up the good work u faggit :) by the way next time try not to blow your short fuse it would have worked out better for you.
Can we move on now? |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 22:58:48
quote:
Originally posted by glacial906
Champ, I'm going to pretend I've never had the misfortune of meeting you, because sarcasm is no fun when the person you're mocking is too much of a fucking moron to know the difference.
Toss him a shiny object and then tip-toe away. |
| glacial906 |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 21:06:27
Champ, you are so cute. You want to be my bitch and raise children together? |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 20:09:54
Hey Glacial, remember, level headed responces plz, its very important. |
| Jefery With One F |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 19:54:46
Champ, with all due respect, please stop arguing for our side.
Vote Bush in 2004 |
| glacial906 |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 17:54:03
Heh heh, you're retarted, dickhead. |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 17:30:21
Hahah, calm down purple face |
| glacial906 |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 17:10:54
Champ, I'm going to pretend I've never had the misfortune of meeting you, because sarcasm is no fun when the person you're mocking is too much of a fucking moron to know the difference. |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 16:57:01
Ahh, thanks for proving my point, hahahahah man thats priceless |
| glacial906 |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 16:17:08
quote:
Originally posted by The Champ
Haha, Yes and what i find funny was that i knew that and only wrote that for the one moment of severe irritation you would have gotten from reading my post.
Yeah...haha...that's funny. Of course you knew! Otherwise, why else would you have had to explain it to us? After all, making others think you're a moron drives them absolutely insane with rage.
Damn, Chump, you get the last laugh every time, don't you..?
Take me, break me, tell me a good one and maybe I'll cry
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| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 13:43:19
(To drag this wildly off-topic (hence parentheses): Leah, are you seeing Tanya on Wednesday? Benji and I will be there, let us know...)
Kind regards,
Dr. Simon
Specialist In Broken Hearts |
| Jefery With One F |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 12:30:30
Studies have shown "conclusively" that Bush won in Florida, just as studies have shown "conclusively" that Gore won. If you make a claim either way, you're just quoting statistics to make your point, ignoring opposing statistics that are just as readily available.
With that said, I think that the best way to decide if things worked out as they should have is to look at the reaction from the people of Florida in the next major election.
The way I see it, if the people of Florida truly felt cheated, they wouldn't have voted to re-elect Governor Jeb Bush in 2002 by a 13% margin...or voted for Katherine Harris' successor as Attorney General by the same margin they elected Harris in the previous election...or voted to put Katherine Harris in the U.S. House of Representatives.
Vote Bush in 2004 |
| VoVat |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 12:00:10
It hasn't been conclusively proven either way, as far as I know. Regardless of who would have won, though, I think we can all agree that the whole thing was a suspicious mess.
Cattle in Korea / They can really moo. |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 08:53:15
Directly from moveon.org:
We all remember the election of 2000. Because of faulty and mismanaged election systems, George W. Bush won Florida's electoral votes and the presidency. And now look at the mess we're in.
That hasn't been proven, right?
In fact i thought studies have shown that bush would have won anyway. |
| Jefery With One F |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 08:21:29
moveon.org is a bunch of crap
Vote Bush in 2004 |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 07:08:55
I still dont think they should be able to raise kids. |
| Leah |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 06:58:31
My view is its up to everyone to take responsibility for their own happiness in this life.
And so long as its between two consenting adults who gives a shit what goes on behind closed doors?
I just wanted to chuck in that I voted for this online through a site Tanya Donelly recommended. (Anyone checked out www.moveon.org?)
The debates on her board have gotten so heated & venomous that the initial thread had to be locked.
Every choice human being strives instinctively for a citadel and a secrecy where he is saved from the crowd -
Nietzsche |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 06:40:18
O yeah, and thanks, i appreciate being considered a "great" hunter as well from the people on the form. |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 06:36:05
Haha, Yes and what i find funny was that i knew that and only wrote that for the one moment of severe irritation you would have gotten from reading my post. |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/24/2004 : 23:31:20
quote:
Originally posted by The Champ
To Darwin,
Grammatically has only one T in it you idiot, learn how to spell, thanks.
Sincerely.
The Champ
It was a joke about shineoftheever's typo, nimrod. That's why I said it was a new word for me. |
| glacial906 |
Posted - 07/24/2004 : 21:56:42
Yeah, well "sincerely" shouldn't have a period after it, it should have a comma. And there should be a semi-colon after "idiot" and "thanks" should be its own sentence. So there. |
| The Champ |
Posted - 07/24/2004 : 21:51:22
To Darwin,
Grammatically has only one T in it you idiot, learn how to spell, thanks.
Sincerely.
The Champ |
