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Stuart Posted - 04/03/2004 : 17:55:51
When I came back to China from the UK last year the former manager of my school asked for all of my visa documents so that he could get them renewed. He took my foreign experts certificate, and green card and then gave them back to me 4 days later and told me that all was sorted and that I was good to live in China until August 2004. I took a look at my foreign experts certificate, checked the date and then put both of my documents in a safe place and forgot about them.

Towards the end of last week I picked up my green card and was browsing through it, when I realised that the expiry date was 31st August 2003. My manager had lied about the fact that he renewed it, and it means that I have been living illegally in China for 7 months, without even being aware of it.

My wife has phoned the bureau and they have informed her that there is a RMB500 per day charge for each day that I am in the country illegally... and seven months of that is RMB105,000 (about $13,000)... then my workplace were told that I will probably be arrested when I visit the government department to explain this huge fuck up.

My workplace are saying that they are not taking any responsibility, despite the fact that it was their responsibility to correctly renew my documents. So things are looking very bizarre indeed. Has anyone ever been in this kind of situation? The weird thing is that since August 31st, I have flown 3-4 times internally in China and have also got married (which required me to submit my documents to the Chinese authorities)... and no-one has pulled me over about this.

Man, it's fucked up because I have done nothing wrong other than be naive enough to trust my manager when he told me that everything had been sorted out.... and now I face possible arrest, plus a fine. A few friends have said that I won't have to cough up the full RMB105,000 as when the charge hits RMB5,000 it gets capped... but these are not official sources, so I am a little anxious.

Also, maybe as I was here illegally in January then my marriage to my wife could possibly be annulled.... which would be even weirder.

Any suggestions? I guess first thing is that I should go to the embassy and see what they suggest... Man why was I so stupid... this is classical Chinese behaviour, people here are compulsive liars and I was naive enough to think that my boss was a trustworthy character.


Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?
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bumblebeeboy2 Posted - 04/08/2004 : 07:57:44
quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath

See how I put the 'm' before hand...makes it evil, ya see...I learn so quickly.



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?



stop replying to yourself! you cheeky sausage!




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Stuart Posted - 04/08/2004 : 06:22:20
quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath

quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath

Oi! Not at all! say of equal importance...i think china would be more expensive , no?

Im glad to hear it all got sorted stuart, even if it did make you out of pocket.

Whereabouts are you from in UK?



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?



I'm from Bristol, the breeding ground for meatheads and cider drinkers. Yeah I'm a little relieved, but still I am pissed at having to hand over 350 quid because my work are just complete cunts. I'll have to leave as well, which means I'll be further out of pocket til I get another job.

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary



Bristol?I never had you down as a bristol guy...you seem far too intelligent, and nice...

haha



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?



I agree Bristol is full of toothless meatheads, who still own Cortinas and can't pronounce the word 'Beetroot' without sounding like complete brainless twats. Luckily I do not have a Bristolian accent, or I would have had to resort to drastic measures like taking a lifelong vow of silence.



'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
GypsyDeath Posted - 04/08/2004 : 04:41:54
See how I put the 'm' before hand...makes it evil, ya see...I learn so quickly.



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?
GypsyDeath Posted - 04/08/2004 : 04:40:56
haha, you always fall straight in to my traps, mwahahahaha



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?
bumblebeeboy2 Posted - 04/08/2004 : 04:38:58
quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath

ha, stuart knows its all in jest, I am only kidding.IM from london anyway,more to the point, Hackney! I have nothing to be snobby about.

CAn you not handle two men bumble?



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?



of course i can! no hang on, wait, no! i can't handle any! no, hmm, is there a come-back to that which isn't going to either imply i'm gay and into gang bangs or a wuss? i'm going for the wuss option me thinks!



The Shrine of the Sea Monkey!
GypsyDeath Posted - 04/08/2004 : 04:35:20
ha, stuart knows its all in jest, I am only kidding.IM from london anyway,more to the point, Hackney! I have nothing to be snobby about.

CAn you not handle two men bumble?



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?
bumblebeeboy2 Posted - 04/08/2004 : 04:29:01
quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath

Bristol?I never had you down as a bristol guy...you seem far too intelligent, and nice...

haha



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?



haha! what's with all the snobbery about where people are from? you're from brighton?! what's so good about brighton!?!?

glad to hear things are sorted though stuart! i was getting, erm, worried, yeah, worried, about having to be a replacement wife for someone else in the bedroom too!



The Shrine of the Sea Monkey!
GypsyDeath Posted - 04/08/2004 : 03:44:24
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath

Oi! Not at all! say of equal importance...i think china would be more expensive , no?

Im glad to hear it all got sorted stuart, even if it did make you out of pocket.

Whereabouts are you from in UK?



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?



I'm from Bristol, the breeding ground for meatheads and cider drinkers. Yeah I'm a little relieved, but still I am pissed at having to hand over 350 quid because my work are just complete cunts. I'll have to leave as well, which means I'll be further out of pocket til I get another job.

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary



Bristol?I never had you down as a bristol guy...you seem far too intelligent, and nice...

haha



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?
Stuart Posted - 04/07/2004 : 16:40:05
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

Well, I'm quite relieved to see it didn't end with you in jail, though I think that being "The Clopser" would've put you near the top of the prison food chain. :)

Too bad about the 350 quid, but I'm hopeful that you'll find a way to make your work pay for it one way or another...


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"



I think being the Clopser could have gone two ways, either I would have become the prison Daddy, or it would have put me on the top of the prison bum chain..... either would have been very unpleasant so I am very relieved that it didn't come to that!

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 04/07/2004 : 14:38:53
You have Cult Of Rank, Dave Nosy and moi to keep you company, caroly.


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Carolynanna Posted - 04/07/2004 : 14:29:05
hehehe, I'm glad I'm not the only jackass cheesema ;)
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 04/07/2004 : 14:19:28
He's an alien, an illegal alien - he's an Englishman in Beijing!

I do apologise, there's no need for Sting, ever.


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Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/07/2004 : 14:00:03
I'm really happy to hear it has ended so relatively well. I know it's not perfect but it's a whole lot better than it could have ended up.

Now let's get my 'Send Stuart To See The Pixies' fund up and running!!!

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
Stuart Posted - 04/07/2004 : 09:13:26
quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2

quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

send stuart to the uk fund. much more deserving than el barto's fund.



i think jimbo is sorted now anyway, so we can re-focus our attentions! hey stu, you said you had a wife? you know... we could be your wife if you were to sell her? it worked for benji!



The Shrine of the Sea Monkey!




Probably wouldn't be too difficult, take her down to the local market and trade her for cash. You guys would have to try and supply a dirty 'stand in' until I return to China and purchase my wife back.

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 04/07/2004 : 09:09:26
Well, I'm quite relieved to see it didn't end with you in jail, though I think that being "The Clopser" would've put you near the top of the prison food chain. :)

Too bad about the 350 quid, but I'm hopeful that you'll find a way to make your work pay for it one way or another...


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
Stuart Posted - 04/07/2004 : 09:07:55
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Noisy

*phew* - glad to hear. Maybe you can find a way to 'stick it to the man' there. =)


Join the Cult of the Flying Pigxies - I'm A Believer!



Believe me the cogs in my brain are working on this.... any suggestions then feel free to post them to me.

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
Stuart Posted - 04/07/2004 : 09:06:19
quote:
Originally posted by Scarla O


I know it's not much consolation but maybe some of the members that buy the live CDs direct from the gigs will pass a copy Stuart's way?




You guys are too nice, thanks for even thinking to suggest this!

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
Stuart Posted - 04/07/2004 : 09:04:55
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

send stuart to the uk fund. much more deserving than el barto's fund.



Hmmm....

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
Stuart Posted - 04/07/2004 : 08:58:43
quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath

Oi! Not at all! say of equal importance...i think china would be more expensive , no?

Im glad to hear it all got sorted stuart, even if it did make you out of pocket.

Whereabouts are you from in UK?



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?



I'm from Bristol, the breeding ground for meatheads and cider drinkers. Yeah I'm a little relieved, but still I am pissed at having to hand over 350 quid because my work are just complete cunts. I'll have to leave as well, which means I'll be further out of pocket til I get another job.

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
GypsyDeath Posted - 04/07/2004 : 06:07:54
yeah! then you dont even need to pay for her ticket too!!!



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?
bumblebeeboy2 Posted - 04/07/2004 : 06:02:19
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

send stuart to the uk fund. much more deserving than el barto's fund.



i think jimbo is sorted now anyway, so we can re-focus our attentions! hey stu, you said you had a wife? you know... we could be your wife if you were to sell her? it worked for benji!



The Shrine of the Sea Monkey!
GypsyDeath Posted - 04/07/2004 : 05:31:50
Oi! Not at all! say of equal importance...i think china would be more expensive , no?

Im glad to hear it all got sorted stuart, even if it did make you out of pocket.

Whereabouts are you from in UK?



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?
PixieSteve Posted - 04/07/2004 : 03:19:21
send stuart to the uk fund. much more deserving than el barto's fund.
Scarla O Posted - 04/07/2004 : 01:24:52

I know it's not much consolation but maybe some of the members that buy the live CDs direct from the gigs will pass a copy Stuart's way?
Dave Noisy Posted - 04/07/2004 : 01:02:11
*phew* - glad to hear. Maybe you can find a way to 'stick it to the man' there. =)


Join the Cult of the Flying Pigxies - I'm A Believer!
Stuart Posted - 04/07/2004 : 00:48:51
Good news, all is sorted.... there is no chance that I'll get my arse filled in in Jail. Had to pay a 350 quid fine which is a right pisser, but thats better than having to leave the country, or getting fined the full whack. Still, I'm pissed off as work will not accept responsibility and pay anything towards the fine, which means that I will not be going back to the UK to see Pixies.

Cheers for all of your responses over the past few days.

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
Dave Noisy Posted - 04/06/2004 : 17:55:06
Good luck Stuart.....


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Stuart Posted - 04/06/2004 : 16:43:01
I'm feeling nervous....

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
Stuart Posted - 04/06/2004 : 16:35:48
Today is the day this gets solved, or I get fucked..... there can be only one thing to do.... listen to The Crue before going to work and get prepared for a 'Big Vern' (Viz character) style showdown.

If I do get sent down, then I'll have to be a 'giver' not a 'taker.' No one is gonna make me squeal like a pig in a Chinese jail!

Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/06/2004 : 10:15:04
Go West are invloved as well??? The plot thickens!!! Someone find out what Living In A Box are up to!!!

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
Stuart Posted - 04/06/2004 : 06:23:51
Lol.... although I wouldn't want to share a cell with the Chinese equivalent of Neil Tenant.... saying that I am very very tempted to leave China now to 'Go West'

Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?
vilainde Posted - 04/06/2004 : 06:15:21
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart
The people at the PSB want me to go to their office tomorrow



Wait, what do the Pet Shop Boys have to see with this story?


Denis
Stuart Posted - 04/06/2004 : 06:07:28
Cheers Mel... tomorrow I'll find out. The people at the PSB want me to go to their office tomorrow, but the wife has advised me against it as they might try and arrest me. So, she is going to go there and try and sort it out, if it cannot be sorted I will go there and take whatever they are going to throw at me. I think as long as they see money then they will not do anything drastic.

Its got to a point where I really don't give a fuck now, saying that I am filled with dread at the prospect of sharing a cell with a man hungry mongolian serial killer. I am also a little bewildered at the attitude of my employers who are still claiming that this is nothing to do with them.

Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?
GypsyDeath Posted - 04/06/2004 : 04:12:22
Oh man stuart!that sucks!!!!!

er..i ahve nothing of any importance or interest to say...just im reallly sorry to hear about your situation!

Im sure itll get sorted out though.

Good luck

Mxx



Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars

Wanna fuck and fight in the basement?
Stuart Posted - 04/05/2004 : 17:21:11
quote:
Originally posted by Scarla O


Hi Stuart, I found myself in a similar kind of situation in Israel but when it became apparent to them that I had proof to back up my story (that i wasn't working on the black-market) they backed off and everything was resolved amicably...I'm sure you'll be ok dude.





I'm sure if the Israeli Government were lenient to you then I stand a good chance of being treated fairly by the Chinese.... although saying that the Chinese do seem to lack any kind of common sense. For years they have been told what to think, so when it comes to thinking for and trying to work shit out for themselves then they struggle.

My work have bluntly said that as I have recently moved from full time teacher to working part time, then they no longer have an obligation to sort out my problem. However, they fail to understand that my visa should have been renewed when I was a full time teacher, but they neglected to do so. It's these kind of half arsed and completely ridiculous reasons that they give, which just make me even angrier. They just don't have a clue as to how things work in life.

Realmeanmotorscutor, prepare yourself for their childish behaviour when you come over here, if you have any problems then they'll conduct themselves in a way comparable to a 12 year old child. It really is a playground mentality here. They aren't helpful at all in sticky situations.

Saying that, not all people out here are unbareably annoying, there are some really nice people, but they seem to be overshadowed by the large number of tossers, there really are alot of them here (and they always seem to be the managers at the schools).

Apologies if I am coming across as a racist, but really I am at the end of the line here.

Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?

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