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Jose Jones Posted - 09/09/2009 : 14:00:21
whose getting them? i want the digital files. for free.

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TarTar Posted - 09/21/2009 : 05:49:57
But how are the dynamics? I imagine there are NONE.

My life is dirt but you seem to make it cleaner... reduce my felony to a misdemeanor
Srisaket Posted - 09/20/2009 : 16:12:58
I bought the remastered 'With The Beatles' and it definitely sounds much better, to my ears anyway.

The vocal parts and guitars sound so much clearer and the cymbals have much more clarity. The mixing of McCartney's bass still sounds muddy though.


Chris Knight Posted - 09/15/2009 : 23:21:48
I haven't heard the remasters yet, but those waveform diagrams ("909" in particular) definitely look a bit crushed.
It's sort of silly...records that were made in the '60s should simply be preserved, not brick-walled to "compete" against modern recordings. In the case of the Beatles, I think that lighter remastering and release on a higher resolution format (DVD) would be ideal.
Carl Posted - 09/10/2009 : 04:58:53
It's amazing that it's taken so many years for remasters to be issued... I mean it's The Beatles, for crying out loud.
hammerhands Posted - 09/09/2009 : 22:56:57
That is disturbing. You've saved me a decision about
buying these, BLT. I will be sure to go get the first
four albums, which I do not have, before the remasters
replace them.

I've always been a strong believer that you use the medium
to its capacity, which for digital is one peak in the
recording. I've assumed that was THE universal understanding,
I'm sure I've seen manuals where 0db is listed as the hard
limit, "Don't get there."

[WTF's the point of dynamic range otherwise?]

There had been lots of room with tape, just peaking, or just
below, a few times worked perfectly, tape compression was
smooth and expected.

Remastering with [more] compression, especially on a much
loved and listened to recording like the Beatles will be
critical suicide! Everybody knows what those tracks
should sound like.

[If you've read the slightly confusing Wiki, Loudness is
the amount of blue in the pictures, (the integral of the
absolute, all the space under the line.)]

Here is In My Life from a 1990's (I think) CD, EMI Canada.
This is just below peaking.

danjersey Posted - 09/09/2009 : 18:19:26
I see dead people
BLT Posted - 09/09/2009 : 15:59:22
alt.binaries.beatles has 'em.

I downloaded a few songs just to check out the levels. My understanding of mastering is rudimentary at best, but the levels look high to me. Go to wikipedia and read about the loudness war, then have a look at these pics.

In My Life


One After 909


Run For Your Life


I'd like to hear the opinion of someone with a greater understanding of CD mastering and amplitude.

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