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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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 Posted - 09/09/2009 : 14:00:21
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whose getting them? i want the digital files. for free.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2009 : 15:59:22
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alt.binaries.beatles has 'em.
I downloaded a few songs just to check out the levels. My understanding of mastering is rudimentary at best, but the levels look high to me. Go to wikipedia and read about the loudness war, then have a look at these pics.
In My Life
One After 909
Run For Your Life
I'd like to hear the opinion of someone with a greater understanding of CD mastering and amplitude. |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
2792 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2009 : 18:19:26
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2009 : 22:56:57
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That is disturbing. You've saved me a decision about
buying these, BLT. I will be sure to go get the first
four albums, which I do not have, before the remasters
replace them.
I've always been a strong believer that you use the medium
to its capacity, which for digital is one peak in the
recording. I've assumed that was THE universal understanding,
I'm sure I've seen manuals where 0db is listed as the hard
limit, "Don't get there."
[WTF's the point of dynamic range otherwise?]
There had been lots of room with tape, just peaking, or just
below, a few times worked perfectly, tape compression was
smooth and expected.
Remastering with [more] compression, especially on a much
loved and listened to recording like the Beatles will be
critical suicide! Everybody knows what those tracks
should sound like.
[If you've read the slightly confusing Wiki, Loudness is
the amount of blue in the pictures, (the integral of the
absolute, all the space under the line.)]
Here is In My Life from a 1990's (I think) CD, EMI Canada.
This is just below peaking.
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Edited by - hammerhands on 09/09/2009 23:31:04 |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2009 : 04:58:53
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
899 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2009 : 23:21:48
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I haven't heard the remasters yet, but those waveform diagrams ("909" in particular) definitely look a bit crushed.
It's sort of silly...records that were made in the '60s should simply be preserved, not brick-walled to "compete" against modern recordings. In the case of the Beatles, I think that lighter remastering and release on a higher resolution format (DVD) would be ideal. |
Edited by - Chris Knight on 09/15/2009 23:23:07 |
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Srisaket
= Cult of Ray =
Thailand
313 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2009 : 16:12:58
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I bought the remastered 'With The Beatles' and it definitely sounds much better, to my ears anyway.
The vocal parts and guitars sound so much clearer and the cymbals have much more clarity. The mixing of McCartney's bass still sounds muddy though.
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *
1965 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2009 : 05:49:57
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But how are the dynamics? I imagine there are NONE.
My life is dirt but you seem to make it cleaner... reduce my felony to a misdemeanor |
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Beatles Reissues
