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trobrianders Posted - 08/04/2009 : 03:18:07
Been meaning for ages to post a few links of Christopher Hitchens to help kickstart a thread on religion. danj had the right idea. In short CH proposes that religion of all stripes poisons everything and it's hightime we started fighting back to protect civilisation. In his words 'The struggle against religion is the struggle to raise the culture to a level where people are immune to appeals made by the cynical to the credulous'.

http://fora.tv/2007/05/10/Christopher_Hitchens_at_Politics_and_Prose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wQbHT8PDuE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY8fjFKAC5k

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pot Posted - 06/26/2013 : 08:20:49
A song about christians who like to do it up the pumphole

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ZF_R_j0OY
trobrianders Posted - 03/19/2013 : 03:37:29
quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

quote:
Originally posted by Carl

'Outspoken atheist' Dawkins admits he is agnostic.



not news. also, obviously, and why isn't everyone?

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they were the heroes of old, men of renown.

"Never underestimate the power of denial" - Ricky Fitts, American Beauty

That one's definitely in my top ten movie quotes.

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Jose Jones Posted - 03/18/2013 : 17:16:09
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

'Outspoken atheist' Dawkins admits he is agnostic.



not news. also, obviously, and why isn't everyone?

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trobrianders Posted - 03/15/2013 : 23:28:34
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

Will all this pope nonsense ever end! These beauty contests are so lame.

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would you like to see the pope at the end of a rope?

green star member since 2006. smb?


Yes, in a hole, on a ledge, lost in space. Like that. Just out of the way, otherwise preoccupied, you know what I mean.

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Carl Posted - 03/15/2013 : 18:32:27
'Outspoken atheist' Dawkins admits he is agnostic.
floop Posted - 03/15/2013 : 05:09:57
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

Will all this pope nonsense ever end! These beauty contests are so lame.

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would you like to see the pope at the end of a rope?

green star member since 2006. smb?
BLT Posted - 03/15/2013 : 04:50:03
quote:
Originally posted by pot





Now that's a funny one, though mostly ruined by the misspelling.
trobrianders Posted - 03/14/2013 : 09:19:53
Will all this pope nonsense ever end! These beauty contests are so lame.

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Llamadance Posted - 09/20/2012 : 10:32:03


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"Some people don't have the guts for distance racing. The polite term for them is sprinters."
pot Posted - 09/20/2012 : 08:38:48
trobrianders Posted - 09/20/2012 : 08:09:52
Damn! I didn't think of that. Impeccable reasoning, as always.

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vilainde Posted - 09/20/2012 : 02:26:23
If I get up early, the terrorists win!


Denis


Obsidiana Bijoux
trobrianders Posted - 09/20/2012 : 00:58:03
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

Denis what's your take on Charlie Hebdo this week?

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My take is that it was out of print this morning when I tried to buy it. Grrrr


Denis


Obsidiana Bijoux

It's reprinted, available tomorrow. Get up early ok.

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trobrianders Posted - 09/19/2012 : 22:46:06
That's as close as some Egyptians get to consent I guess (No offense to Egyptians. Much offense to Egyptian law)

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Llamadance Posted - 09/19/2012 : 07:55:20
hehehe, nice thread

Wasn't there a (hoax) story recently where the Egyptians ruled that it's ok for a husband to have sex with his wife up to 6 hours after her death?

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trobrianders Posted - 09/19/2012 : 02:43:11
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

Denis what's your take on Charlie Hebdo this week?

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My take is that it was out of print this morning when I tried to buy it. Grrrr


Denis


Obsidiana Bijoux

I hope Charb stays safe.

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pot Posted - 09/19/2012 : 02:20:26


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/jan/06/science.religion
vilainde Posted - 09/19/2012 : 02:16:21
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

I guess you can't help with advice on tactical retreat either?

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No but I can give advice on necrophilia if you need it


Denis


Obsidiana Bijoux
vilainde Posted - 09/19/2012 : 02:15:39
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

Denis what's your take on Charlie Hebdo this week?

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My take is that it was out of print this morning when I tried to buy it. Grrrr


Denis


Obsidiana Bijoux
pot Posted - 09/19/2012 : 02:04:24
How to talk to God

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qAugcz9LCI
pot Posted - 09/19/2012 : 01:53:04
I believe in Blobby

trobrianders Posted - 09/19/2012 : 01:41:58
Denis what's your take on Charlie Hebdo this week?

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pot Posted - 09/19/2012 : 01:31:58
Please no sexy talk. This is a religious thread.
trobrianders Posted - 09/19/2012 : 01:29:27
I guess you can't help with advice on tactical retreat either?

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vilainde Posted - 09/19/2012 : 01:25:54
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

Oh dear! I exposed one of my favorite threads to the pot virus. Guess I've only got myself to blame. Hey denis, help me out here, will you?

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sorry tro, I tried to read the whole thread and couldn't understand a word.


Denis


Obsidiana Bijoux
pot Posted - 09/19/2012 : 01:08:51
Any mods online care to help trobrianders eliminate any posters he deems unworthy of comment from his thread?

Seriously though, I have little interest in getting into a debate with a closed minded twerp like you, so don't worry your little mind. Just ignore the bits where I post in response to other folk, unless everyone else now hates me as well.

quote:
Originally posted by Newo
I find Hitchens' approach, while it had great parts, to be a little self-defeating to his own purpose, this kind of sensationalistic tone (religion born of terror etc.) would only alienate the many people who toy with religions (or mix and match from them) for the beautiful aspects they might contain. And it is these people Hitchens should be interested in reaching, it sure as hell isn't the guy with eyes rolled back in forehead saying you need to read the Bible because humans need an instruction manual just as a VCR does. (There's nothing you can do with religious zealots except give them as wide a berth as possible.) But Hitchens is Hitchens, and though he's funny when giving poor old Kissinger a good kicking, he's the kind of thinker where he has a hammer and everything looks like a nail.

About the Victorian brush, I didn't just have the aethyr in mind when I wrote that, but you can find the same views further afield too. I recommend Fritjof Capra's "The Tao of Physics", about the parallels between quantum physics and Oriental mysticism.




Capra's books are a good read, very inspiring. Religion is not all about oppression and mass delusion, behind the theology there are some very interesting points to consider and if you are open minded and take a holistic view on it all and incorporate some science into the equation it can all be very interesting. The term 'ayurveda' from ancient sanskrit translates into 'science of life'. Fundamentally there is not that much difference between science and theology. If you look at some of the scientific theories that are being considered by mainstream scientists these days, they certainly make some of the claims made by religion look quite plausible by comparison. It's all very easy to follow the sheep and denounce all religion and blame it for all the world's problems, without really looking into it to see if there is any substance to it. Let's alienate so many people across the world who gain some sort of comfort or inspiration from theology/religion/spirituality or whatever the hell you like to call it, in the name of progress.

'Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.' Albert Einstein

trobrianders Posted - 09/19/2012 : 00:54:15
Oh dear! I exposed one of my favorite threads to the pot virus. Guess I've only got myself to blame. Hey denis, help me out here, will you?

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pot Posted - 09/19/2012 : 00:47:45
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

This is my favorite of all the threads I started. I'd really be grateful if you didn't post here pot. Thank you very much for your cooperation.

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Go create your own thread in your own forum trob. I'll post here if I like. Fuck you.

So much for democracy and progress. That's the second time you have tried to silence me for my views. You're a hypocrite.
trobrianders Posted - 09/19/2012 : 00:46:57
This is my favorite of all the threads I started. I'd really be grateful if you didn't post here pot. Thank you very much for your cooperation.

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pot Posted - 09/19/2012 : 00:36:12
Atheists are such douche bags
trobrianders Posted - 09/19/2012 : 00:11:56
100 lashes if you're not dying of laughter

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trobrianders Posted - 09/13/2009 : 01:08:26
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

Necrophilia should be out if you're planning on eating it.

Certainly if you're planning on dining at a restaurant. But it's okay if you're dining in, surely?

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danjersey Posted - 09/04/2009 : 16:47:02
Every year in catholic school my parish observed a week of UNICEF lunch, where a single cup of cooked rice was fed to each student. Their must have been some dissent from other kid's parents because I always had extra rice. Soon I was carrying packets of soy sauce with me in my pockets. My Mom kept these and other condiments in a coffee can on the hutch in our kitchen. I loved UNICEF week. No Reservations.
trobrianders Posted - 09/02/2009 : 08:51:49
I remember all that; nervous teachers trying to maintain order through the singing of Onward Christian Soldiers. But that was a long time ago. It's tougher where you are than here in the UK. Do you see Christianity persisting or fading over time where you are?

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darwin Posted - 09/02/2009 : 07:06:08
Yeah, a few weeks ago I was giving the standard parent pep talk to my older kid and said, "everybody makes mistakes". My 6-year old (who has never been in a church) piped in with, "God doesn't make mistakes". I don't think he's being indoctrinated by the teachers, but by the other kids.

I also remember when I was a kid in 6th grade (probably have already told this story) The Gideons showed up at my school to pass out New Testaments. The kids were sent out of class to go get one. I refused and my teacher tried to talk me into it. And I remember prayers before football games, strangers asking me what church my family attend, ect. So, I'm not buying the persecution of Christians.

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