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kathryn Posted - 01/22/2007 : 19:04:27
Or for that matter, Barack Obama. I say neither's electable. What do you say?


I got some heaven in my head
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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/31/2007 : 17:13:25
This just in from RP headquaters!!

Crappy, drunk pop stars support Ron Paul!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lEhISHzux5I

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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/31/2007 : 17:02:16
The only real candidate.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/311007_b_leno.htm

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Carl Posted - 10/25/2007 : 03:41:21
quote:
Originally posted by tisasawath




Looks like Dubya's got a little bit of trapped wind.

"A little bit of this, and a little bit of that....trade secrets!"
VoVat Posted - 10/24/2007 : 14:39:41
Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85

As other people have said, I'm not a big fan of Hillary (too Republican Lite for my taste), but I don't think she'd be terrible, and I'd vote for her over any of the current Republican contenders. I appreciate Ron Paul for his candor and willingness to challenge the other Republicans' ridiculous jingoism, but I also disagree with him on a lot of issues.



"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares."
lonely persuader Posted - 10/24/2007 : 04:33:09
Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72

Forum members (because of who and what music scene we are into) will generally be left and libertarian.
And we are all relatively intelligent and well read (except for KOK).

tisasawath Posted - 10/24/2007 : 04:02:25


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move along, nothing to see here
awestruck Posted - 10/23/2007 : 17:19:41
I don't know how it will play out, but Barak Obama may have helped Hillary when he didn't put his
right hand over his heart during the national anthem.

Here is a link...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2007/10/20/obama-no-hand-heart-pledge-either-will-msm-notice

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html

google it and you will find more links
It's not you I don't like
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/23/2007 : 17:06:02
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

wikipedia said so. i don't really know much about american politicians.

I like to complain



Some American politicians ship the drugs into America to fund covert operations (such as Iran Contra) and then the drugs shipped in, turn poor black neighborhoods into hell holes. Then those same politicians go on television and declare a "war on drugs".

Ask any black person how they felt about the "war on drugs" in the late eighties and they will tell you that if you turned on your television at that time it would appear to really be a war on black people. Then I thought about it. Turn on the tv every night in the late 80's and all you saw was some black guy being arrested for this or that. I have friends that said that they couldn't even sit on a bus or subway without being treated as a criminal. Women clutching their purses in horror, etc.. And this guy that told me that story was a retired military/ current California Highway Patrol officer at the time.

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PixieSteve Posted - 10/23/2007 : 16:47:19
wikipedia said so. i don't really know much about american politicians.

I like to complain
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/23/2007 : 15:01:40
Does he want to end the war on drugs? The war on drugs is a farce so it should be ended. It's like the war on terrorism. Complete bullshit.

Okay and now this -
Giuliani Employs Accused Pedophile Priest
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2007/10/23/giuliani-employs-accused-pedophile-priest/

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PixieSteve Posted - 10/23/2007 : 11:50:06
that explains why he wants to end the war on drugs then

I like to complain
darwin Posted - 10/23/2007 : 11:37:39
It's being reported that Kucinich had a recent UFO encounter. No news on Sasquatch.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/10/kucinich_had_a_ufo_encounter_according_to_friend_shirley_maclaine.php
houstonguthrie Posted - 10/22/2007 : 06:46:55
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

(Houstonguthrie, with your being a supposed Woody Guthrie disciple, I'm disappointed in how small your numbers are. :) )


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.



I answered as honestly as I could. I was afraid I was going to end up being the first person to score a positive # - and then I'd be made to walk the plank.

ObfuscateByWill Posted - 10/21/2007 : 16:34:18
Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.10

Not so far left as I'd been, No less concerned, though. Maybe less sense of responsibility to others?

*Take a bite of the chocolate coffin.
awestruck Posted - 10/21/2007 : 13:51:09
Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51



It's not you I don't like
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/21/2007 : 13:39:41
That's not true. IU make statement people say that's fucking crazy and I come up with a multitude of articles and links to support my statement then people criticize me for backing up my crazy statements. "I'm not reading all of that" "I'm not trusting Youtube." "Boob tube for me brother"

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floop Posted - 10/21/2007 : 13:33:50
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

Where have you been? I'm voting for Ron Paul. Hillary will win the election. That's all I'm saying. Please look for my quote.



sorry, i guess i was mistaken. to be honest i don't usually read your posts (at least the ones with paragraphs of copied and pasted text)..

i'd be interested in reading your own actual opinion on things if you ever posted it, but most of the time you just lazily copy and paste links and articles
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/21/2007 : 13:28:33
Sometimes you have to break free of your useless ideology in order to get the required job done. The country/world is in trouble you're going to vote for more of the same, while I'm voting for change.

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darwin Posted - 10/21/2007 : 13:25:26
Good for you. You're so eager to be contrarian that you can't recognize which politicians agree the most with you. Very impressive.
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/21/2007 : 13:14:04
Where have you been? I'm voting for Ron Paul. Hillary will win the election. That's all I'm saying. Please look for my quote.

And Darwin you are at least two inches north east of me and Dalai. Dalai! Tea's on brother!

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floop Posted - 10/21/2007 : 13:11:21
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

I don't support Hillary Clinton. I'm telling you that this thing is so controlled Hillary is already chosen. You clowns are wasting your energy pretending any of your opinions are going to make a difference. She will win. Therefore I will have a new skateboard. It's a done deal.

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uh, i don't really feel like looking for your quote, but i'm pretty sure you made comments regarding your support for Hillary Clinton.


kok, take your meds and go skateboarding (it's a nice day outside!).. i think this being indoors all the time is making you uptight
darwin Posted - 10/21/2007 : 13:07:38
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

And people, don't be afraid just because the Dalai Lama and I have our own little roomy corner on the political compass and the rest of you are crowded in with the slaves.



Hey, don't let the facts (once again) get in the way. I'm in that corner with you and so is Steve (most of us are). But unlike you we aren't preaching a political point-of-view (libertarism) that doesn't match our political compass score.
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/21/2007 : 13:05:12
I don't support Hillary Clinton. I'm telling you that this thing is so controlled Hillary is already chosen. You clowns are wasting your energy pretending any of your opinions are going to make a difference. She will win. Therefore I will have a new skateboard. It's a done deal.

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floop Posted - 10/21/2007 : 12:58:57
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

Darwin... That is conventional wisdom. How about if we stop policing the world at the same time?

Here's Ron's site. Don't be afraid. http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

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back on topic... i don't understand why you support Hillary Clinton when she voted for invading Iraq
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/21/2007 : 12:55:50
And people, don't be afraid just because the Dalai Lama and I have our own little roomy corner on the political compass and the rest of you are crowded in with the slaves.

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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/21/2007 : 12:49:53
Darwin... That is conventional wisdom. How about if we stop policing the world at the same time?

Here's Ron's site. Don't be afraid. http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

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darwin Posted - 10/21/2007 : 10:43:09
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
I'm a bit apprehensive about some of his economic policies and how they would affect social programs (welfare, etc) but even then, his plans are gradual.



Getting rid of income taxes and thus starving all social programs isn't gradual. It would be an experiment in Social Darwinism. Screw the poor.

I don't know what his thoughts are about corporations. Does he believe in strong government regulations and monitoring of companies? A strong FDA, SEC, and EPA to protect US citizens from the drive for companies to maximize profits while ignoring their effects on people (i.e. lead toys, pollution, predatory pricing and monopolies).
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/21/2007 : 10:13:40
His non-interventionist beliefs, his strict adherence to the constitution, his desire to maintain American sovereignty his belief that the states should be handling these social issues such as gay marriage, legalized marijuana, abortion etc. The Federal government should not be dictating what the states do.

I'm a bit apprehensive about some of his economic policies and how they would affect social programs (welfare, etc) but even then, his plans are gradual. Plus bring back the gold standard or whatever his plan is just get rid of the PRIVATE central bank we are all enslaved to.

Right now our country is in deep financial trouble. If we have to buckle up for a while to straighten things out then fine. 4 to 8 years of dealing with a guy whose economic policies I do not fully agree with will be better than the first year with these war mongers.


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PixieSteve Posted - 10/21/2007 : 09:58:20
why do you support ron paul again?

I like to complain
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/21/2007 : 09:46:35
Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.21
http://politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-7.50&soc=-6.21

Does that seem accurate to ya'll?

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PixieSteve Posted - 10/21/2007 : 09:32:21
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

I'll take it later today for ya'll.




i'm on the egde of my seat.

anyone else think this might have a bias of say -2 for both axis?

I like to complain
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 10/21/2007 : 09:28:53
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

KOK why don't you take the test. Let's see how close you're to your master (Dr. Paul).



I started to but only got half way through before I had to do something important. Like put peanut butter on some toast. I'll take it later today for ya'll.

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coastline Posted - 10/21/2007 : 09:16:30
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

(Houstonguthrie, with your being a supposed Woody Guthrie disciple, I'm disappointed in how small your numbers are. :) )


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
houstonguthrie Posted - 10/21/2007 : 08:32:16
Economic Left/Right: -1.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.59
Srisaket Posted - 10/21/2007 : 08:10:50

Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85



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