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floop Posted - 06/25/2006 : 22:09:41
i guess this will date myself, and i'm not really arguing that it's a bad thing, but something i've noticed about going to concerts now, versus going to concerts when i was a wee lad is that the crowds seem so docile these days.

going to concerts when i was in high school (or younger) i remember it being a much more sketchy affair. there were just way more hard-core scary characters, more drug use, and, usually, at almost every show at least one fight broke out. i remember always being afraid of getting knifed or whatever..

when i go to concerts now the crowds are markedly more clean-cut and timid; Moby look-alikes, Death Cab For Cutie fans.. etc..

not a judgement call. it's probably a good thing that there isn't much violence at shows. but that did, admittedly, add another level of excitement to going to a show. i kind of miss the gang violence and psychotic people on acid going into convulsions

any other oldies have the same sense? or am i just off here?




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prozacrat Posted - 08/08/2006 : 16:04:39
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by prozacrat

When FB&TC came to South Dakota, he actually stopped about 30 seconds into I Switched You because the crowd was getting too violent. He kindly asked the crowd to relax a little so nobody got hurt, then played Speedy Marie.

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you gotta watch out for those South Dakotians. they'll knife you in the back when you're not looking





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floop Posted - 08/08/2006 : 10:32:49
quote:
Originally posted by prozacrat

When FB&TC came to South Dakota, he actually stopped about 30 seconds into I Switched You because the crowd was getting too violent. He kindly asked the crowd to relax a little so nobody got hurt, then played Speedy Marie.

http://www.prozacrat.com



you gotta watch out for those South Dakotians. they'll knife you in the back when you're not looking





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mr.biscuitdoughhead Posted - 08/08/2006 : 10:25:54
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

To me, the most sickening part of this story, is that Korn (at least until a day or two ago) has not issued a statement on the incident. How can you stand by and not say something to this poor guy's family? If i were in that band, i would be fucking destroyed right now with guilt. I've been to shows where bands have said "please calm down, you're hurting people." That should be the norm, not the exception.

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Because they are a bunch of bastards?


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place


Exactly.
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 08/08/2006 : 10:23:20
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

To me, the most sickening part of this story, is that Korn (at least until a day or two ago) has not issued a statement on the incident. How can you stand by and not say something to this poor guy's family? If i were in that band, i would be fucking destroyed right now with guilt. I've been to shows where bands have said "please calm down, you're hurting people." That should be the norm, not the exception.

-Brian - http://bvsrant.blogspot.com



Because they are a bunch of bastards?


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
prozacrat Posted - 08/07/2006 : 17:31:57
When FB&TC came to South Dakota, he actually stopped about 30 seconds into I Switched You because the crowd was getting too violent. He kindly asked the crowd to relax a little so nobody got hurt, then played Speedy Marie.

http://www.prozacrat.com
Carl Posted - 08/07/2006 : 11:13:15
At a Smashing Pumpkins concert over here some years ago, a girl was killed when she was crushed against the barrier at the front of the stage. The band actaully considered splitting up because of it.


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Broken Face Posted - 08/07/2006 : 11:08:32
To me, the most sickening part of this story, is that Korn (at least until a day or two ago) has not issued a statement on the incident. How can you stand by and not say something to this poor guy's family? If i were in that band, i would be fucking destroyed right now with guilt. I've been to shows where bands have said "please calm down, you're hurting people." That should be the norm, not the exception.

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Carl Posted - 08/07/2006 : 11:01:52
quote:
Originally posted by dayanara

ATLANTA (KP International) – The case of a man who was beaten in the mosh pit of a Korn concert in Atlanta during the band's Family Values Tour has turned from an assault case to a murder investigation.
On Sunday night, the victim, Andy Richardson, was reportedly brutally beaten by two men after he asked them to be mindful of his pregnant girlfriend and a mentally impaired child who was accompanying him.
Richardson was declared dead on Tuesday afternoon. He allegedly remained on life support so doctors could harvest his organs in order for them to be donated to someone in need.


That's lovely.


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prozacrat Posted - 08/07/2006 : 03:40:03
I've also noticed a general mellowing at concerts, and while part of me misses the excitement, the part of me that has had a broken collarbone for the last three years is really rather grateful. I recently saw the Eels at the ampitheater at the Minnesota Zoo, but felt safe going because I knew I had handicap seats in front, separated from the rest of the audience. The last time I saw the Eels at First Ave. it was pretty rowdy. This time people sat in their seats for the most part. Towards the end of the show some big drunk guy came down in front of me and my friends and was trying to get everybody else to "get down here and fuckin' party!!" I guess he didn't notice the fragile lookin' guy in the wheelchair with his arm in a sling... in the handicap section...where the drunk guy wanted everybody to "fuckin' party!!"

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starmekitten Posted - 08/07/2006 : 01:59:29
People suck.

I feel like I'm at that stage where I don't want to have to put up with other peoples nonsense at gigs anymore. I'd rather be a softy than have to get pissy with morons.
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 08/07/2006 : 01:52:38
quote:
Originally posted by dayanara

obviously it depends on which concerts you're going to.

quote:
Korn mosh victim dies

ATLANTA (KP International) – The case of a man who was beaten in the mosh pit of a Korn concert in Atlanta during the band's Family Values Tour has turned from an assault case to a murder investigation.
On Sunday night, the victim, Andy Richardson, was reportedly brutally beaten by two men after he asked them to be mindful of his pregnant girlfriend and a mentally impaired child who was accompanying him.
Richardson was declared dead on Tuesday afternoon. He allegedly remained on life support so doctors could harvest his organs in order for them to be donated to someone in need.


http://www.insideeonline.com/news/gossip/20060803-1061/korn_mosh_victim_dies.html


i hate anyone who doesn't like me.

That is pretty sickening. A pregnant girlfriend a mentally retarded kid and they beat him to death?


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dayanara Posted - 08/06/2006 : 23:07:54
obviously it depends on which concerts you're going to.

quote:
Korn mosh victim dies

ATLANTA (KP International) – The case of a man who was beaten in the mosh pit of a Korn concert in Atlanta during the band's Family Values Tour has turned from an assault case to a murder investigation.
On Sunday night, the victim, Andy Richardson, was reportedly brutally beaten by two men after he asked them to be mindful of his pregnant girlfriend and a mentally impaired child who was accompanying him.
Richardson was declared dead on Tuesday afternoon. He allegedly remained on life support so doctors could harvest his organs in order for them to be donated to someone in need.


http://www.insideeonline.com/news/gossip/20060803-1061/korn_mosh_victim_dies.html


i hate anyone who doesn't like me.
vilainde Posted - 07/17/2006 : 05:20:09
Some of these were kinda fun though. And some were actually true.


Denis

jediroller Posted - 07/17/2006 : 04:50:58
I finally found the answer to floop's question.

The Rules of Rock.

No shit.

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floop Posted - 06/28/2006 : 22:43:48
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

After a metal show, your ears are numb, your body feels like it's been put through a ringer, and you feel all sweaty and dirty. And the scent of sweat and cheap shampoo lingers in your nostrils.



that's how i feel after going to LBF's mom's house




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glacial906 Posted - 06/28/2006 : 22:36:04
The most violent show I ever went to was, surprisingly, the Squirrel Nut Zippers. There were more fights that broke out during that show than I had seen before, going to Tool, the Deftones, etc.


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MissMaceo Posted - 06/27/2006 : 17:10:53
shit
metal nothin
that was me after the twilight singers



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Carl Posted - 06/27/2006 : 15:45:07
After a metal show, your ears are numb, your body feels like it's been put through a ringer, and you feel all sweaty and dirty. And the scent of sweat and cheap shampoo lingers in your nostrils.


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HeywoodJablome Posted - 06/27/2006 : 10:11:34
I been too enough Slayer shows and been tossed like a rag doll and trampled upon. It was fun and I miss it sometimes but if I see a pit at a show nowadays I mainly think about how I could get injured and just find a comfy spot by the bar. It does seem that shows were a lot more unpredictable back when but maybe becuase I've been to loads of'em by now, they're a little more eh.... predictable.

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kathryn Posted - 06/27/2006 : 10:10:00
And brush your teeth.


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Newo Posted - 06/27/2006 : 08:22:27
and don´t come back from the next show unless you got stitches young man.

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Cheeseman1000 Posted - 06/27/2006 : 08:19:37
Cut your hair as well.


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Broken Face Posted - 06/27/2006 : 08:05:26
Get a job hippie.

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Sir Rockabye Posted - 06/27/2006 : 07:51:40
Aw, give me a break K, its the summer.

What you really should be saying is go back to the classifieds and keep looking for a job.


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When you run out of exits you can always count sheep.
kathryn Posted - 06/27/2006 : 05:58:32
quote:
Originally posted by Sir Rockabye

I got a bloody lip at the Liars show I attended tonight.

To be fair though, it wasn't as much anyone else's fault as mine. I was pressed up against the stage, and when they started playing Let's Not Wrestly Mt. Heart Attack, I started dancing all over the place, and I smashed my face accidentally into a monitor.

I also think I might be temporarily deaf. Once again though, not my fault.


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Sir Rockabye Posted - 06/26/2006 : 21:52:22
I got a bloody lip at the Liars show I attended tonight.

To be fair though, it wasn't as much anyone else's fault as mine. I was pressed up against the stage, and when they started playing Let's Not Wrestly Mt. Heart Attack, I started dancing all over the place, and I smashed my face accidentally into a monitor.

I also think I might be temporarily deaf. Once again though, not my fault.


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When you run out of exits you can always count sheep.
MissMaceo Posted - 06/26/2006 : 21:47:25
fair enough
my experience with crime has risen dramatically due to a location change and part of my left wing libertarian attitude dictates me to go doomsday cynic
perhaps the perception for others has changed
perhaps the incidents caught up with us?
perhaps the insurance no longer allows for any fooling around?
so many variables it could be
interesting question



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darwin Posted - 06/26/2006 : 21:35:17
quote:
Originally posted by MissMaceo

sort of

i think our society has become less and less tolerant of things like moshing as the crime rates have risen




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Except that violent crime rates in the US have been declining since the early 90s.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict.htm
BLT Posted - 06/26/2006 : 21:24:51
If I'm going to get physically injured, I'd like it to happen while doing something more exciting than attending a rock concert. At least then I can brag about how it happened.
Little Black Francis Posted - 06/26/2006 : 21:12:41
All the scary people like shitty bands now. Like the last Woodstock when they burnt the place down and raped women, all to the sound of the Chili Peppers, a show that also included the very popular Limp Bizquick and Kid Rock.


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Superabounder Posted - 06/26/2006 : 21:05:15
I've had the wish that fans at some of the shows I've been to in the last few years would get into the music at least...not necessarily form a violent mosh pit, but at least jump up and down and have fun. Let the music take them over. The Pixies show was pretty fun on the floor area, and I got to crush up close and people were pretty delirius, but many other shows have had that "I'm too cool to get into the music at all" feel.

A futureheads show last year in Dallas was like that: sold out, packed room, yet even the youngsters in the crowd at the very front weren't getting into it too much. Maybe the lack of ability to buy alcohol for them at the bar (18 & up show I guess it was) affects that.



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MissMaceo Posted - 06/26/2006 : 20:20:44
sort of

i think our society has become less and less tolerant of things like moshing as the crime rates have risen




This species has amused itself to death.
Broken Face Posted - 06/26/2006 : 20:03:32
I think that for the most part this is true, but i for one don't mind. There are usually pockets of intensity if that's what i'm in the mood for. Or, if i'm in my normal mood, i just hang out where i won't get stepped on/beer spilled on me.

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kathryn Posted - 06/26/2006 : 19:53:38
a good point is made here and one that was driven home during the pixies reunion tours. a very different experience, physically, than pixies (and other) shows in the 80s. less physically perilous.


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Carl Posted - 06/26/2006 : 18:03:38
I remember FB saying in a COR-era NME interview that his big rock 'n roll concert experience moment came when a big guy landed on him at a Black Flag show!!

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