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a guy in a rover Posted - 05/28/2006 : 10:08:06
So how many of you guys are headed for an early grave like myself? How many do you smoke a day and what are your brands?
I gave up about a year and a half ago but recently I was getting pretty stressed and bought a pack. Now Im back on about 20 a day. Recently I've developed an expensive taste for cigars, from which you can almost gain sexual pleasure, they are that good, like smoking twenty cigarettes at once. When Im not smoking cigars, my preferred cancer stick is Regal.

Ps I hope this thread doesn't offend anyone, if you object, then just dont bother posting.
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s_wrenn Posted - 05/31/2006 : 14:22:40
What do smokers think of this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5033284.stm

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jtjcp88 Posted - 05/31/2006 : 12:51:17
Ive been smoking since I was around 15, but have recentely moved up to Roll-ups. Brand cigarettes just taste like crap to me, and they're so weak in comparrison.

"Dance at my party."
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 05/31/2006 : 12:50:05
I know, me neither. It's hard to understand such stupidity though. Well I just hope he's learnt his lesson.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Carl Posted - 05/31/2006 : 12:31:31
I don't understand.

Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 05/31/2006 : 04:42:31
You just burnt your cock after Kitty had warned you!? Well that's just plain silly!


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
s_wrenn Posted - 05/31/2006 : 04:27:52
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

harder to burn though


forum ebook: end of miles



Ow!! I just shuddered

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Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 05/31/2006 : 04:27:29
Yeah and one goes better with a zippo.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
starmekitten Posted - 05/31/2006 : 04:25:57
harder to burn though


forum ebook: end of miles
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 05/31/2006 : 04:23:58
In that case, smoking cock looks cooler on a girl.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
starmekitten Posted - 05/31/2006 : 04:07:12
Yeah I guess if I'm completely honest about it when I started smoking it was a particularly low point in my life. I don't like to associate it with that though.

I still smoke because it looks cool though.

forum ebook: end of miles
ScottP Posted - 05/29/2006 : 23:25:39
All I have left of my baseball playing days are some pictures, a few newspaper articles, and an absurdly stubborn addiction to chewing tobacco.

Nice piece, Erebus. Kids are the best. Considering all of my bad habits, and all of my interest in the dark side of life, my close friends have been obviously concerned about my son's upbringing. I joked with them that I would perform my fatherly duties as "a good example of a bad example."

He's now 14 years old. A polite, caring, and confident, straight A student with a great sense of humor. He asks alot of questions about my destructive behavior and I tell him the truth. He responds well to my plan. Now, it's not such a joke- but more of an accidentally proven hypothesis. I shall write a book.
floop Posted - 05/29/2006 : 22:27:25
i posted that i quit in one of the other 'quit smoking' threads, but sadly that didn't last.

going to have to give it another go.. it's a son of a bitch.




"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur
Little Black Francis Posted - 05/29/2006 : 22:26:55
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis

Yeah, you're right, it was pancreatic. oops. I swear I've read about his cancer and that it wasn't related to smoking. I can't seem to find something that directly addresses that issue. You can get lung cancer without ever smoking, I don't see why one would automatically assume it was smoking related, (other than the fact he did a lot of smoking bits). It could be but I don't think so. I would like to know for sure.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging





Smoking causes cancer. Because it doesn't cause all cancers doesn't lessen the danger. When someone young gets cancer, it makes sense to ask if there were environmentally factors that led to the cancer. Sure people can get lung cancer without smoking, but I'm sure a large proportion of people with lung cancer did smoke.

And pancreatic cancer is linked with smoking.



Yeah, I know, I am not arguing that. I'm not retarded, I know smoking causes cancer. I know smoking is dangerous. I know most people with lung cancer probably got it from smoking. I don't know whether Hicks' cancer was related to smoking, and that's what I was talking about and wondering about. If I find out I'll be sure to follow up if anyone cares.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging
Erebus Posted - 05/29/2006 : 18:54:39
Thank you, AGIAR. It's funny: a few hundred yards from here there's a mountain, a hill by local standards but still enough of a mountain that all I would have to do is go out there and climb it or some not too substantial portion of it, not even everyday, a climb which I would actually enjoy for the effort and the view, and my life would be changed for the better, much better than I can know and certainly more than enough to justify the initial effort, so long as I do something similar again the same week, and then the week after that for the next, say, four months. Oh, yeah, could be I have some congenital defect and that it could kill me, but I have reason to doubt that given past efforts I've enjoyed. Pretty simple really. There's always some such hill around. Just go run around the local quarter mile track on a semiregular basis and you'll feel better, and we KNOW that that is true. But I don't do it. And millions of others in America and Europe also don't. Why/how does an organism KNOW what it takes to feel better, which is usually quite at hand, and yet not avail itself of it? And it knows that many have faced similar challenges and done quite well, so it can't say it doesn't work. The young are easily excused, for they are right to think they can always deal with it later. Most of them can continue to smoke or drink for another ten years without much adverse impact beyond it being somewhat more difficult to deal with later. But some of us are well beyond that excuse, and still we won't climb that hill that we know we'd actually enjoy climbing while benefitting our health as well. Seems simple, but if it were both mental health professionals and academic philosophers would find their employment prospects greatly diminished. They say it has something to do with neurosynapses and feedback loops, but many of us behave as though we believe otherwise.

"Projectile management is the essence of the quality of life" - Ted Nugent
a guy in a rover Posted - 05/29/2006 : 16:33:52
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus
But it's worth remembering, not that this thread has been overly unsympathetic, that there are actual HUMAN stories lying behind most disgusting addictions and lives of dissipation.


Thats very true Erebus, I haven't been doing too great myself recently, I've been having some mental health difficulties, and goin back on the cigs has been helping me through it in a way. Not to mention the booze, jeez do I like a drink when the chips are down, because ya know what, sometimes these things help. Okay they are not the ideal solution, maybe thats not what you 'should' do to see you through your problems, but sometimes its the only way.
Hope you manage to get all your shit together Erebus.
darwin Posted - 05/29/2006 : 15:34:13
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis

Yeah, you're right, it was pancreatic. oops. I swear I've read about his cancer and that it wasn't related to smoking. I can't seem to find something that directly addresses that issue. You can get lung cancer without ever smoking, I don't see why one would automatically assume it was smoking related, (other than the fact he did a lot of smoking bits). It could be but I don't think so. I would like to know for sure.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging



Smoking causes cancer. Because it doesn't cause all cancers doesn't lessen the danger. When someone young gets cancer, it makes sense to ask if there were environmentally factors that led to the cancer. Sure people can get lung cancer without smoking, but I'm sure a large proportion of people with lung cancer did smoke.

And pancreatic cancer is linked with smoking.
Erebus Posted - 05/29/2006 : 15:10:54
After smoking about a pack a day for twelve years I fell in love with a lady, and then shortly later with her two young children by the proverbial ex. At the start of the infatuation phase, I went cold turkey because she had invited me over for dinner. Easiest cold turkey I ever experienced. She and I had a good couple year run that eventually faded out, but I remained a part of their lives, initially due to my deep connection with the children (hours of horseplay, diapers, doing “science”, etc.), and then through deep friendship with all three of them. That may be the best, if not the only, way for a man and woman to actually remain friends after the romance and sex. For the next several years I think it's fair to say I was the go-to guy for Nancy, as she went through a few boyfriends while I continued, as the closest family friend, to see her and her (whom I still see as MY) kids about once a week, took care of the kids when she went out of town for a weekend or a week, fed the cat and dog when all three were gone, until she fell in love with a cosmic jerk who was threatened by my involvement with the life of her family. I understand his reaction, but he was way over the top. She cut me off from the whole deal, cold turkey. So I freaked out about basically everything and went back to smoking and drinking. Haven’t been the same since. Fuck It. In spades. She married, and then two years later, divorced the jerk, having learned what I recognized from the beginning. But my relationship with her and the kids was irrevocably damaged (though not utterly destroyed, for in the next almost ten years I corresponded with the kids through their father (sending a few dollars now and then, along with a bunch of CDs), and then after that reestablished a contact in which I see each of the kids, college age and beyond, about twice a year). But the whole thing remains by far the most traumatic thing in my adult existence, and I've smoked and drinked like mad ever since, trusting almost no one, certainly no one as much. So, I couldn't care less about lung cancer, alcoholism, or the rest. AGIAR, see what a thread about smoking can involve?

I know: excuses; pathetic resignation; lack of will. But it's worth remembering, not that this thread has been overly unsympathetic, that there are actual HUMAN stories lying behind most disgusting addictions and lives of dissipation. Perhaps I indulge in this just now because I spent the last three hours with young Martin, whose diapers I changed hundreds of times nineteen years ago. He's still my trooper, now six foot six, towering eight inches over me, and today he turned me onto some instrumental trip-hop type stuff that I actually enjoyed very much. Along with a Skatalites boot and a couple other things, I gave him one of those June 8, 2005 Cleveland Rock Hall of Fame comps (I originally had eight) that The Show was handing out to those of us who bought CDs of the 2005 Pixies shows (admonishing him with Frank's caveat that you may have to listen three times to give it a chance), and he's promised to give me a copy of the next trip-hip-hop compilation CD he makes. And I know he doesn't judge me one bit for being a simple addict. Isn’t love grand?


"Projectile management is the essence of the quality of life" - Ted Nugent
Apesy Posted - 05/29/2006 : 15:08:30
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis

You can get lung cancer without ever smoking...



-=Apesy
Little Black Francis Posted - 05/29/2006 : 14:10:37
Yeah, you're right, it was pancreatic. oops. I swear I've read about his cancer and that it wasn't related to smoking. I can't seem to find something that directly addresses that issue. You can get lung cancer without ever smoking, I don't see why one would automatically assume it was smoking related, (other than the fact he did a lot of smoking bits). It could be but I don't think so. I would like to know for sure.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging
a guy in a rover Posted - 05/29/2006 : 14:04:46
My own personal favourite (on people who complain about the health risks of secondary smoke):

"If I don't smoke, there's gonna be secondary bullets comin' your way, Im that tense."
Carl Posted - 05/29/2006 : 13:54:50
I heard that the cancer he had was not smoking-related either.



"I smoke. If this bothers
anyone, I recommend
looking around the world
in which we live....and
shutting your fucking
mouth!"


a guy in a rover Posted - 05/29/2006 : 13:49:21
Hicks died of pancreatic cancer which can be caused by smoking.
His smoking routines were hilarious though, and I dont think the point of his act was to advertise or justify smoking per se, rather it was a retort to all the patronising, annoying people who constantly get on your back about smoking.


A pig or a goat well, they wouldn’t let you be mistreated

darwin Posted - 05/29/2006 : 13:35:14
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis
He died of stomach cancer that had nothing to do with smoking.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging



I think a google search of "smoking stomach cancer" might change your mind about that.
Little Black Francis Posted - 05/29/2006 : 13:09:33
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis

quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

i hope you're not using bill hicks to justify smoking...

FAST_MAN RAIDER_MAN - June 19th


I'm not using Bill Hicks to justify smoking, I'm just providing some quotes in which he justified smoking. What does justify smoking mean anyway?


dying in your eary 30s does not justify smoking..

JUSTIFY!


FAST_MAN RAIDER_MAN - June 19th



He died of stomach cancer that had nothing to do with smoking.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging
s_wrenn Posted - 05/29/2006 : 10:54:28
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

quote:
Originally posted by s_wrenn

But that guy was weird anyway, he used to wank in the study hall.


You went to school with Gary Lineker?

http://masksmokin.ytmnd.com/





hahaha Gotcha Wankers crisps indeed.

http://myspace.com/seanwrenn
Carl Posted - 05/29/2006 : 09:59:45
quote:
Originally posted by s_wrenn

But that guy was weird anyway, he used to wank in the study hall.


You went to school with Gary Lineker?

http://masksmokin.ytmnd.com/

a guy in a rover Posted - 05/29/2006 : 08:31:03
I think we need to chill this thread out by sitting down and having a big fat smoke.

s_wrenn Posted - 05/29/2006 : 04:48:43
I went to school with a guy who started smoking so that he would have something in common with the hottest girl in the class. He thought that it would be his ticket to going out with her. But she hated him so it never happened.

The stupidest smoking related story i ever heard was to do with a different guy in school, who was told that he'd be given a 10 pack of John Player if he shaved off his pubes. And he did it.
But that guy was weird anyway, he used to wank in the study hall.



http://myspace.com/seanwrenn
mcil Posted - 05/29/2006 : 04:43:37
I don't smoke, never will, because I need to get teeth implants and apparantely they don't work if you smoke. Anyhoo, I think it was Groucho Marx that said 'I once read about the effects of smoking: I was so shocked that I gave up reading.' I like that quote.

"Your Bone's Got a Little Machine..."
lonely persuader Posted - 05/29/2006 : 04:39:30
was this thread inspired by...
"if your poison gets you"
lonely persuader Posted - 05/29/2006 : 04:37:18
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

I don't smoke, being athmatic and all.





snap. Irish and asthmatic
PixieSteve Posted - 05/29/2006 : 04:23:09
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis

quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

i hope you're not using bill hicks to justify smoking...


FAST_MAN RAIDER_MAN - June 19th



I'm not using Bill Hicks to justify smoking, I'm just providing some quotes in which he justified smoking. What does justify smoking mean anyway?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging



dying in your eary 30s does not justify smoking..

JUSTIFY!


FAST_MAN RAIDER_MAN - June 19th
Apesy Posted - 05/28/2006 : 21:27:51
I only smoke cigarettes when I'm writing, basically. It helps me concentrate for whatever reason -- and I never have more than three per session. I don't want to turn into a chain smoker. Especially when my preferred brand is like, one of the most expensive brands out there:



Best stuff ever, though.

Shame on this thread for making me want to smoke the whole pack in one sitting.

And hooray for cigars.

-=Apesy
Little Black Francis Posted - 05/28/2006 : 19:27:26
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

i hope you're not using bill hicks to justify smoking...


FAST_MAN  RAIDER_MAN - June 19th



I'm not using Bill Hicks to justify smoking, I'm just providing some quotes in which he justified smoking. What does justify smoking mean anyway?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 05/28/2006 : 18:53:33
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

quote:
Originally posted by a guy in a rover


Ps I hope this thread doesn't offend anyone, if you object, then just dont bother posting.



boring


FAST_MAN  RAIDER_MAN - June 19th



Boring.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place

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