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| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 12:26:44
I've been debating among my various personalities on these massive "list" threads and their contribution to the forum, positive or negative.
I've come to the opinion that their impact on the forum is ultimately negative. First of all, many of these threads contain posts that in themselves could and should be topics. Particularly threads like "What are you listening to/last CD you bought/etc". They are cool ideas in theory, but what I observe to happen there is that it becomes people just listing their latest purchase and no real conversation related to the posts. Sometimes you'll get people chiming in that they like/want to buy/etc that album, but otherwise, very little going on.
My preference would be to have people who really are enjoying an album they picked up or an album they've loved forever, or something that is on their mind that they feel worthy of sharing with others to do so and start a thread on it. As examples.
Feel free to offer your own perspective... I'm contemplating deleting or actually, better still, locking the ones that are deterents to starting independant and worthwhile threads. That way you can still go back and read if you like and I can unlock them after a while if it seems to be a mistake. But I don't think so. I can't be the only one who couldn't be arsed to participate in/read these monstrously large threads.
Obviously if massive public opinion is in favour of leaving as is, I will reluctantly do so.
 "If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
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| Bohemoth |
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 04/25/2006 : 11:03:46
Perhaps they want them locking for their own good then.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Holy Fingers |
Posted - 04/25/2006 : 08:17:49
I guess I don't really care. I have been a member for less than a month, and I am still very willing to follow suit/guidelines given by the mods. I generally browse through all thread titles, and reply to all that have recent posts, whether it contains a list or not. I did start a "Post your age" thread, however. It may be a list thread, but it is rather enlightening. I must say though, that many of the people in favor of locking the threads in question, have their names plastered all over them.
 "The only difference between lilies and turds is whatever difference humans have agreed upon; and I don't always agree." - George Carlin |
| vilainde |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 14:03:04
Just like his mum
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 14:02:28
Floop's obsessed with sac licking.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 13:55:08
Thanks guys.
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
| Carl |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 13:50:43
Do aliens lick their own sacs?!
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| floop |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 13:47:28
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
So then, who's looking forward to Alien Vs Predator 2?
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
considering the first one licked sac, i can't say i'm looking forward to a sequel
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 13:30:41
So then, who's looking forward to Alien Vs Predator 2?
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 12:11:20
As long as it centres roughly around one topic, that's fine.
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
| Carl |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 11:33:03
This is turning into a massive thread. :)
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| floop |
Posted - 04/23/2006 : 14:55:43
quote:
Originally posted by VoVat
And don't worry, Floop. I had Chick-fil-A last night. :P
in a world filled with danger and uncertainty, it's nice to know that there are some things you can always count on
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur |
| VoVat |
Posted - 04/23/2006 : 13:37:42
Yes, and I've also stopped drinking, listening to music, going to concerts, watching movies, answering questions, and thinking random things! This massive lock-down is killing me!
Seriously, I think the principle is sound, but part of the fun of threads like the question one and the "topics you were going to start" thread was their somewhat random nature. Sometimes I want to say things that aren't necessarily related to a particular topic, you know?
The other thing is that I'm self-conscious about starting new threads. Sure, I'd like it if there were a thread where I could discuss Terry Pratchett or Oz books or the new Minus 5 album, but I'm afraid no one would post to them, so I enjoyed the little bit of discussion about such things that sometimes came up in the more general threads. I have no problem with dashing off a quick reply to just about anything, but I prefer not to start a thread unless I really think it's about something significant. Maybe that's just me, though.
And don't worry, Floop. I had Chick-fil-A last night. :P
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
| vilainde |
Posted - 04/16/2006 : 10:59:51
Maybe VoVat has stopped eating? I mean, what's the point of eating now that you can't tell it on the forum? VoVat's probably starving now and it's because of the mods! Damn you, mods, damn you!
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
| starmekitten |
Posted - 04/16/2006 : 10:27:58
Water, Floop, water!
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I tried doing that once, making every minute count. It gave me a headache.
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| floop |
Posted - 04/16/2006 : 09:52:38
i'm having list-thread withdrawl. it's killing me not to know what VoVat is eating this week. chick-fil-a? Applebee's? macaroni and cheese?
i don't know if i can take much more of this
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 04/16/2006 : 03:24:05
I think it's going OK so far.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Erebus |
Posted - 04/15/2006 : 22:58:38
Though I don't have that many irons in this fire, I did like the generic "watching" thread simply for posting mention of particular old, and I mean ancient, movies. I'm unlikely to open new topics for obscure 1940s flics, but I did think some youngsters might find some value there, so I posted word in that thread. No big deal. Time will tell. Experiment onward: I retain faith in fb.net sanity. |
| Erebus |
Posted - 04/15/2006 : 22:46:15
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde
Yeah! We could call it the "iMusic Bulletin Board". Old school!
(uh, anyone else remember the iMusic Bulletin Board? Anyone? Gee, I'm old)
I do, but then I also remember the two of us recalling this once before. Wasn't so bad, was it? But then that was then. |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 04/15/2006 : 21:59:47
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Noisy
Hey, i've got a *really* good idea!
Why not delete ALL threads and ALL forums, and just have *one* thread on FB.net, and ALL discussion can go under it!
 "Live life like you're gonna die...because you are." - William Shatner, You'll Have Time / Has Been
Not helpful.
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I tried doing that once, making every minute count. It gave me a headache.
It is the crux of the matter though, that some people seem to be missing. Maybe an extreme version of what they're talking about will be added clarity. Or else amusing.
But I could see people being pissed, so you are probably right.
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
| starmekitten |
Posted - 04/15/2006 : 16:51:49
Vovat: the point is to spread the content out a little more and not confine it to a small number of threads. If they were indeed the "ONLY" ones that were enjoyable, then something is definitely wrong and steps to make more enjoyable stuff is the way forward, no?
Yeah, word association, I did that. Big thread, buries a lot of other stuff, same theory really. Word association was just a list of words; gut reaction words. Song title game involves more thinking, this was my rationale, might have been wrong but there was mention at the start of the thread for a pong clearout too, so...
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I tried doing that once, making every minute count. It gave me a headache.
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| starmekitten |
Posted - 04/15/2006 : 16:48:17
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Noisy
Hey, i've got a *really* good idea!
Why not delete ALL threads and ALL forums, and just have *one* thread on FB.net, and ALL discussion can go under it!
"Live life like you're gonna die...because you are." - William Shatner, You'll Have Time / Has Been
Not helpful.
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I tried doing that once, making every minute count. It gave me a headache.
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| VoVat |
Posted - 04/15/2006 : 14:50:15
I would have voted (or opined, anyway; I guess it's not really a democracy) against locking the threads, but then, everyone already KNEW I was a loser. Some of them were really stupid (like the "What are you drinking?" thread), but there were others that were still fun (topics you were going to start, upcoming gigs, movies, ask a question, etc.). Indeed, sometimes these were the ONLY threads that were at all enjoyable on a given day. Personally, I'm a big advocate of "If you don't like, don't read it," but since I'm apparently in the minority here, I won't make more than this token complaint. And since I don't have much Internet time anymore, it's probably good that there's less to read on the forum. I do think the Word Association thread should be unlocked, though, seeing as how it's a game and all. Isn't that what the Pong section is for?
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
| vilainde |
Posted - 04/15/2006 : 14:24:21
Yeah! We could call it the "iMusic Bulletin Board". Old school!
(uh, anyone else remember the iMusic Bulletin Board? Anyone? Gee, I'm old)
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
| pixiestu |
Posted - 04/15/2006 : 14:11:46
Cool, I like it.
"The arc of triumph" |
| Dave Noisy |
Posted - 04/15/2006 : 14:01:30
Hey, i've got a *really* good idea!
Why not delete ALL threads and ALL forums, and just have *one* thread on FB.net, and ALL discussion can go under it!
"Live life like you're gonna die...because you are." - William Shatner, You'll Have Time / Has Been |
| zub_the_goat |
Posted - 04/15/2006 : 03:43:52
quote:
Originally posted by Carl
Maybe we could have a single 'What have you read/watched, etc.' thread, for everything, including gigs you've been to and the like. Or maybe that's a bit too scattershot.
to be honest, im not so keen on this idea, we could just end up with one huge thread, and very little else-perhaps if we just had a new film at cinema thread, a new music thread, etc and made a new one each week, thatd make everything easier to find, and also mean that people who perhaps werent exited enough by something to post a topic, also get their say (eg "the new CDs for the week 15-22nd april thread") |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 04/14/2006 : 09:24:35
Alright, I appreciate everyone's input.
We're going to try it this way for awhile, please give it a chance. If it doesn't work then I will reconsider but think of it as an experiment and I hope you guys will try to give it an honest go. If you're not used to starting a thread, it will be an adjustment, but that's exactly the problem in my opinion.
Again, if not, we will start backtracking and trying other things like what's being suggested.
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
| Carl |
Posted - 04/14/2006 : 06:33:30
Maybe we could have a single 'What have you read/watched, etc.' thread, for everything, including gigs you've been to and the like. Or maybe that's a bit too scattershot.
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| kelladwella |
Posted - 04/14/2006 : 04:45:52
Sorry to step in after the discussion seems to be over and sorry for repeating some of the arguments, but I wasn’t able to check in for the last couple of days. So:
I'm with pretty much Carl and cassandra about the gigs, record and movies threads (erm, even about the dinner, what’s on your mind threads to a lesser extend). I enjoyed reading those general discussion threads. Even if people were just listing things up there (wich they weren't). I found it worthwhile and interesting checking these out.
And I really don't see why it shouldn't be possible to have general threads about things.
Even if you just added the name of your newest record... or just mentioned a film you saw that you didn't much care about, except for this one scene or... posted what was on your mind in a certain moment, you sometimes opened a discussion with your post. And sometimes not.
Those threads were a bit like a discussion on a cocktail party or so. They were low-obstacle offers (can you say that?) to post. You could chitchat about a certain topic. With as much depths to it as you felt like. To expect a concentrated and on-topic discussion in there all the time, for everyone in the future to understand, is a bit besides the point in my opinion. They were just general chat I suppose.
But if someone cares enough about a ceritain gig/record/movie/thought they can always create a topic about it and try to start a discussion there and moderate it. This has been done all the time.
So, if it’s a problem that those threads became too long, maybe one could delete the older pages from time to time and only keep the five pages prior to the latest one. Nobody really needs the first pages anyway.
And I can’t really see why a handful of threads should slow the forum down.
So there!
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| therewererumours |
Posted - 04/13/2006 : 13:13:32
I was sort of going to complain about the locking of the "I Just Watched...." and "Up Coming Gigs.....", but now that the mods have made their points, it's not such a bad thing. I did think some of the others were getting abit old and redundant, like "What are you listening....." and "Whats on your Mind" threads. At least certain people have been locked out now, one of them was mean to Carl, which 'aint right. I'm sure they'll be back in some other guise some time soon to stir shit but that's the way things go. Is there a lunar cycle to the hoha's on this forum about it getting boring/inappropriate material and people getting banned hehe? Anyway, I'm not one to talk, as I don't really go in for the big long debate/arguement thing for the simple fact that I prefer doing it face to face with someone. Less stress, more love.
 black, it was always black...... |
| Broken Face |
Posted - 04/13/2006 : 06:13:05
Here is my attempt at a logical explanation for the locking of the threads:
I'm selfish.
When i see a great movie, or read a great book, or have my socks rocked off at a show, i want to discuss this. Most of my friends/family and i don't share the same tastes in these things, so i come here to discuss. But when i post my thoughts in any of those threads, there is a good (over 50%) chance that no one will comment, not because they don't care (which many of them don't), but because the style of the thread is a list, not a discussion. Even on the rare occasion this a discussion, it is a truncated one that would certainly have been more indepth had it been a seperate topic.
Even if this means more topics, it will help those forum-ers who either a) don't read the big threads because of the intimidation factor of reading 100 pgs/jumping in at page 101, or b) don't have time to sift through epics to find a two word review of some film.
-Brian
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 04/13/2006 : 05:40:21
quote:
Originally posted by floop
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl
locking = good :)
lock her up!
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur
OK, everyone at work just stared at me 'cos I just burst out laughing.
Must you insist on ruining my life floop?
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| cassandra is |
Posted - 04/13/2006 : 04:07:12
I guess I still belong to the losers club... anyone wants to join me?
pas de bras pas de chocolat |
| starmekitten |
Posted - 04/13/2006 : 03:48:08
I still think you guys are missing the point here. The thread still contained listing of statements and not all of them stimulated any sort of discussion and any discussions that did start were brief and buried in the rest of the thread. If I wanted to know about a particular film I would have to sift through 67 pages to find mention of it. If a thread was started about the film though I would only have to use the search function to find it and I think discussion of the film would be more extensive than if it were spotted about in a thread with all other films.
Like I said a case could be made for a number of threads. What are you reading, upcoming gigs and movies. They all contained a certain level of appeal for people and a certain level of discussion but it is far better to open the discussion out rather than contain it in these large threads.
Just give it a chance, please!
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I tried doing that once, making every minute count. It gave me a headache.
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