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Superabounder Posted - 04/05/2006 : 18:00:32
My son just scored his first soccer goal ever tonight. He is 6, and this is the 4th season he has ever played (fall & spring are each a season) but he has never come close to scoring. He is more the brainy type as opposed to the super athletic type. Anyway, I was coaching our goalie at the entire opposite side but saw him kick it and watched it sneak in just inside the goalpost. It was the winning goal, and I was so excited for him I had to restrain myself from running down the field to hug him. He was so happy after the game! Being a parent definitely has its unbelievable elations.

Anyway, couldn't help but display my fatherly pride!



Mathematics moves at such a crawl
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Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 04/10/2006 : 14:27:11
I was a goalie/defenceman when I was younger. Now I play midfield, but in any case I did hate when a goal was scored but loved when I made a huge save. I remember widing up in the splits as I jammed one leg out way to the right and blocked it but it rebounded and they shot again to the other side of the net and my left leg went out and stopped that one too. Hurt a bit, but not as much as it would now. :)

So I really dislike the idea of no goalies. Parents should be involved in making everyone see it's a team game and the goalie is but a part, and perhaps recognize that if there is an esteem issue, it's either coming from other kids who need a talking to or the parents themselves. But anyway, that's cool Superabounder. Nice story.


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/10/2006 : 14:20:04
Oh and their weather.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/10/2006 : 14:19:26
We need more beaches so our kids can learn the Brazilian way.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
fbc Posted - 04/10/2006 : 11:28:21
I've seen matches (5-a-side) where instead of a keeper, they have goals about 1ft high/2ft wide. Reducing the size of pitch, number of players and size of ball is a great way to teach the children. They get more of the ball individually, learn to pass and receive because of this, and are under greater pressure from the opposition due to the smaller pitch.

Then you grow up, start smoking and cough'n'wheeze your way through the first half. Subbed at second.
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/10/2006 : 09:53:57
But then you lose the comedy.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
darwin Posted - 04/08/2006 : 11:36:29
I'm talking about small sided games. AYSO (AMERICAN YOUTH SOCCER ORGANIZATION) is trying to move towards young kids playing 5 on 5 games without a keeper. I think that's a pretty good way to learn skills rather than a pack of 22 kids chasing after the ball.
a guy in a rover Posted - 04/08/2006 : 07:47:32
quote:
Originally posted by pixiestu

Anyone ever play red-arse?

"The arc of triumph"



Yes. What a way to add a little bit of extra tension to a kickabout.

No keepers, what the fuck?!
seriously, do Americans have no patience whatsoever? Is a nil nil really that difficult to take? (I jest of course.

PS Brian McBride is American.

A pig or a goat well, they wouldn’t let you be mistreated

Cheeseman1000 Posted - 04/08/2006 : 05:06:14
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

No goalies is nonsense. You take your turn in goal like everyone else: how else are you going to make a decent keeper out of someone? Toughen 'em up, I say.



Aren't some of the best keepers in Britain from the US? We don't have problems finding people that can use their hands; it's the feet we have problems with.

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Working on the T.V. show Emergency! was particularly nice because I was working with a real pro “Randy Mantooth” - Dick Van Patten

You make a good point, but if you're eliminating goalies now, don't hold much hope for the future...

You're right actually, I've always been impressed by Brad Friedl in particular. There's one or two outfield players with some skill, Brian McBride (or is he Canadian?), and I hear nothing but good things about Freddy Adu, I look forward to seeing him in the World Cup.


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darwin Posted - 04/07/2006 : 12:39:06
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

No goalies is nonsense. You take your turn in goal like everyone else: how else are you going to make a decent keeper out of someone? Toughen 'em up, I say.



Aren't some of the best keepers in Britain from the US? We don't have problems finding people that can use their hands; it's the feet we have problems with.

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Working on the T.V. show Emergency! was particularly nice because I was working with a real pro “Randy Mantooth” - Dick Van Patten
pixiestu Posted - 04/07/2006 : 10:07:38
Anyone ever play red-arse?

"The arc of triumph"
Carl Posted - 04/07/2006 : 04:58:09
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Pointe/2515/thatcher.rm

pas de dutchie!
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 04/07/2006 : 02:33:38
Headers and volleys anyone?


I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid
fbc Posted - 04/07/2006 : 02:32:25
Post saves all?

I haven't had a decent game of Wembley in years.


break the two-minute rule and it's a lifetime in jail
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 04/07/2006 : 02:28:19
No goalies is nonsense. You take your turn in goal like everyone else: how else are you going to make a decent keeper out of someone? Toughen 'em up, I say.

Or, introduce playground rules...
Stick goaly - can't leave the penalty area
Rush goaly - can handle the ball in the penalty box and move anywhere on the field.
monkey rush goaly - can handle the ball anywhere on the field...

Jumpers for goalposts, isn't it? Hmm? Marvellous.



I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid
fbc Posted - 04/07/2006 : 02:13:25
I have sympathy for the young goalies I see stuck in full size 11-a-side goals. Catch the ball right on a windy day and you can lob him from the half way line, poor kid.
darwin Posted - 04/06/2006 : 23:43:45
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

quote:
Originally posted by darwin

In our town they've eliminated goalies until they're 10 years old. I was against that change because I thought it was going to cause a scoring-fest, but last fall was the first season with that change and it went well. Kids did score a little more (but scores were still reasonable) and nobody had the burden of being goalie (and as a coach I didn't have the burden of telling someone they had to play goalie).



what kind of self-esteem-building, politically correct bullshit is this?

of course, i ask with love, darwin.


I’m the only one who can say that this light is mine




I would love to say it's a Davis self-esteem initiative, but it's a national AYSO recommendation. Beyond the self-esteem stuff it's suppose to get the kids playing soccer and defense rather than relying on the keeper. Plus, we know keepers aren't real soccer players - social misfits.

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Working on the T.V. show Emergency! was particularly nice because I was working with a real pro “Randy Mantooth” - Dick Van Patten
kathryn Posted - 04/06/2006 : 21:27:43
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

In our town they've eliminated goalies until they're 10 years old. I was against that change because I thought it was going to cause a scoring-fest, but last fall was the first season with that change and it went well. Kids did score a little more (but scores were still reasonable) and nobody had the burden of being goalie (and as a coach I didn't have the burden of telling someone they had to play goalie).



what kind of self-esteem-building, politically correct bullshit is this?

of course, i ask with love, darwin.


I’m the only one who can say that this light is mine
darwin Posted - 04/06/2006 : 21:13:54
In our town they've eliminated goalies until they're 10 years old. I was against that change because I thought it was going to cause a scoring-fest, but last fall was the first season with that change and it went well. Kids did score a little more (but scores were still reasonable) and nobody had the burden of being goalie (and as a coach I didn't have the burden of telling someone they had to play goalie).
Superabounder Posted - 04/06/2006 : 20:47:40
One of his coaches IS from England, so we were talking about how our team should be extra gritty and have really hard slide tackles and such. But then again they are five and six, and many of them are more interested in pulling grass out of the field.

Position wise, there is pretty much goalie and the pack. He was playing in the pack.



Mathematics moves at such a crawl
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/06/2006 : 12:51:49
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

How sad for Superabounder to have his thread hijacked by the Brits with their incomprehensible babbling on about "football."


I’m the only one who can say that this light is mine




Well football played a large part in the initial post. In fact, without football, there would have been no topic. Now get back to your adopted nation's sport of seal clubbing.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
darwin Posted - 04/06/2006 : 12:43:10
That's baseball, or since Superabounder is in Texas Pee Wee football.
BLT Posted - 04/06/2006 : 11:38:20
I just want to know when the parent-to-parent fisticuffs begin.
kathryn Posted - 04/06/2006 : 11:37:53
How sad for Superabounder to have his thread hijacked by the Brits with their incomprehensible babbling on about "football."


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Cheeseman1000 Posted - 04/06/2006 : 10:46:16
He was pretty darn fine when Norwich made it into Europe. Bryan Gunn used to rival Neville Southall for best bald goalie at the time as well. I've been reminiscing of my football sticker collection (season 94/5), good times.

Good job there training your kid in a good sport, superabounder. If you need a rundown of cricket rules, give me a shout.


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Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/06/2006 : 10:01:52
He wasn't actually very good when I think about it. He was OK I guess.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
pixiestu Posted - 04/06/2006 : 09:59:55
Ruel Fox is currently coach of non-league Whitton United F.C. (apparently)

"The arc of triumph"
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/06/2006 : 09:59:09
There is also goal poacher.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
fbc Posted - 04/06/2006 : 09:51:12
Remember Ruel Fox? and Chris Kiwomya? I wonder what happened to them.
pixiestu Posted - 04/06/2006 : 09:47:15
How about Paul Jewell's favourite term for a centre forward: "Fox in the box"

"The arc of triumph"
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/06/2006 : 09:40:02
quote:
Originally posted by fbc

It's Striker, homers, as in 'soccer'. Centre Forward I believe is more commonly used in 'football' (not to be confused with the sport where by hugging counts as a tackle)

quote:
He is more the brainy type as opposed to the super athletic type

the playmaker. more inspiration than perspiration. they're the ones who can change a game in the blink of an eye. Good job, little abounder =) Let the flood gates open.




Sorry but I refuse to use these terms.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Carl Posted - 04/06/2006 : 05:35:51
Congrats to your son, Super! He could become a football legend one day!

pas de dutchie!
fbc Posted - 04/06/2006 : 05:12:30
It's Striker, homers, as in 'soccer'. Centre Forward I believe is more commonly used in 'football' (not to be confused with the sport where by hugging counts as a tackle)

quote:
He is more the brainy type as opposed to the super athletic type

the playmaker. more inspiration than perspiration. they're the ones who can change a game in the blink of an eye. Good job, little abounder =) Let the flood gates open.
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/06/2006 : 04:44:12
What position does he play? Please tell me it's not centre forward.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Superabounder Posted - 04/05/2006 : 18:20:17
I'd hate for anyone to wear that shirt without authenticating it with me first.

btw thanks Ataris!



Mathematics moves at such a crawl
kathryn Posted - 04/05/2006 : 18:14:16



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