| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Llamadance |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 07:31:08
So, I went to the supermarket on Sunday for few things, the total of which came to £16.72. Unusually for me, I paid in cash, (£20), but as the checkout girl's mind must have been elsewhere, she gave me £16.72 in change.
I noticed straight away, as I wasn't expecting notes in the change, and I was just about to say something, but stopped and got out of there pretty quickly. I'm sort of surprised at myself, as I usually point these kind of things out, but equally, I feel a bit justified as we spend hundreds of pounds a month in there.
So, am I a thief and moral void, or just a normal person. What would you have done?
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| danjersey |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 23:21:44
"The white Moon heard it, and she forgot the dawn, and lingered on in the sky"
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| VoVat |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 19:23:10
I probably would have returned the money, if I'd known about it. If I didn't know that I'd received too much change until after I'd gotten back home or whatever, I probably wouldn't have bothered to return it, unless it was a LOT of money, or I knew I was going back there soon.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 09:59:00
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis
Excuse me Miss, I was walking down the aisle and I started eating this box of cookies. It says 4 cookies, I ate 2 and there is only 1 left, so I am not paying for them. Oh yeah, Miss? Suck my balls.
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
hahahahahaha!!!!
no I meant bypass the cashier altogether! Go in and sneak a meal. Of course, you have to eat things like yogurt drinks and Hostess while you sneek about the aisles...veggies and fruit from produce. My fav was getting a couple pre-made sandwiches from the deli, putting them in my jacket, and asking for the key to the restroom. Once inside, dine away. However a public restroom is a far cry from a dining room. Nevertheless, the sandwiches were good. Just don't attempt to eat things you have to prepare first. A stuffed oven roasted turkey would take WAY too long and be very hard to conceal as you walk around the store. You can't try to make bacon either. The management would smell it and become suspicious. Plus, they would catch you immediatly if you tried to use their cooking appliances. Trust me...I know what I'm talking about. DONT I repeat DONT attempt to make KoolAid. First you would have to get a large pitcher on aisle 9, then traipse about until you find the aisle with sugar (I use 'traipse' because you may be in a store you are not familiar with). After the sugar, you will have to locate the KoolAid mix. This is now looking very funny to the cashiers. Now you've got three ingrediants for the punch, but you still need water. You cross back to aisle 18 to get bottled water. After hiding behind a Frito-Lay display to mix the punch, you discover you have no wooden spoon. You see how difficult it becomes? Stay AWAY from potential incidents like this! Or a chicken divan casserole. To much hassle Stick to easier foods like the one's mentioned above. If they catch you, you might as well forget about change for a while altogether!
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN |
| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 09:39:22
Excuse me Miss, I was walking down the aisle and I started eating this box of cookies. It says 4 cookies, I ate 2 and there is only 1 left, so I am not paying for them. Oh yeah, Miss? Suck my balls.
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos. |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 09:31:53
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
[quote]Originally posted by Little Black Francis
Actually, it should say that...right under WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE.
I've only seen those in Bars. And notice that sign doesn't say "for any reason" That sign is total bullshit, I've never seen it enforced except on drunk morons. You can't shop here, you're not white. See how far that gets you.
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
I've enforced it before! And on people who aren't drunk...just ridiculous people! And I've called the police to enforce that right! This was at a record store years ago. And more than once! It's not total crap. A business has every right, like a person, to say "okay, shut the hell up and get out of my face." And people will say, well that'll get you a lawsuit. I never saw a lawsuit. And as far as your stance goes, in my opinion, on the non-importance of counting your money owed to you because it's so inconveinient to shop anyway...use a credit card. Or, if money is an issue altogether, just do what I did as a college student. Eat as you walk through the store and don't pay. No coins pass hands!
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN |
| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 09:18:55
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
[quote]Originally posted by Little Black Francis
Actually, it should say that...right under WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE.
I've only seen those in Bars. And notice that sign doesn't say "for any reason" That sign is total bullshit, I've never seen it enforced except on drunk morons. You can't shop here, you're not white. See how far that gets you.
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos. |
| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 09:14:34
You're not allowed to shop here unless you can make your own change.
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos. |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 09:13:49
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis
No, I know it wouldn't work. My grandmother couldn't do it. I, myself, count my change and know how much I should have and receive in return. I just think for people like my 90 year old grandmother, she has every right to go to a store and shop and expect that if she provides enough money for the items she wants that she should expect to recieve the proper ammount of change without ever thinking twice about it. When you walk in the door of any store does it say on the front door "customer expected to be able to count their own change, if you get too little it's your own fault dumbass!"
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
Actually, it should say that...right under WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE.
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN |
| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 09:07:15
No, I know it wouldn't work. My grandmother couldn't do it. I, myself, count my change and know how much I should have and receive in return. I just think for people like my 90 year old grandmother, she has every right to go to a store and shop and expect that if she provides enough money for the items she wants that she should expect to recieve the proper ammount of change without ever thinking twice about it. When you walk in the door of any store does it say on the front door "customer expected to be able to count their own change, if you get too little it's your own fault dumbass!"
if there was a sign on every door of every store stating that, then I would totally agree with you.
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos. |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 09:01:47
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Originally posted by Little Black Francis
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Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
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Originally posted by Little Black Francis
Not if they give you too much
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
Well, if they give you too much, you simply give it back or walk away a little richer!
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN
I think youre missing the point of my argument. And what's the point of offering a service that doesn't provide what it is founded on. If that's the case, why are there cashiers in the first place. Why don't we all make our own change?
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
The service of a cashier is not an offering. It's an expectation and a necessity of a money-giving public. And it's made up ironically of individuals of same public. And we do make our own change by counting what the cashier is expected to return to us. It would be silly to completely hand over your responsibility to another because fallible humans are fallible humans. But, as to address your question of why we arent literally making our own change? More and more these days we are seeing automated check-out lanes in stores...even banks. We scan the item ourselves, bag it ourselves, and then a machine completes the money transaction. I don't like these things (unless I am buying something embarrasing). Yes, the change has been, for me, 100% correct when I've used these. However, I know they are fallible too. But come on! These are a substitute for laziness...and ultimately they are taking jobs away from the public. Consumers should always deal with human customer service representatives...because they themselves off the clock are consumers. And they, like us, are going to make errors in math from time to time. It's a simple choice of reigning the situation by taking 10 seconds to clear it up by pointing it out, or pocketing it. I'd rather spend a minute with people to figure out the problem, than to go to ONE person in an automated store and attempt to solve an incorrect-change issue caused by a robot. And as much as I have really avoided the "make our own change" question you posed...due to the insanity of such an idea in this day, age, and culture...I am finding I can't hold back. Can you really convince me LBF, or any of us here, that this would work in our current structure of retail? To make our own change? To go behind a register ourselves, dip into the till, and make our own change?
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN |
| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 08:37:17
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis
Not if they give you too much
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
Well, if they give you too much, you simply give it back or walk away a little richer!
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN
I think youre missing the point of my argument. And what's the point of offering a service that doesn't provide what it is founded on. If that's the case, why are there cashiers in the first place. Why don't we all make our own change?
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
I'll make sure I bring my math textbook, a slide rule and a calculator next time I go shopping. |
| whoreatthedoor |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 08:27:53
Yep! Right. I work on a help desk, what do you want from me?
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 08:24:19
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis
Not if they give you too much
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
Well, if they give you too much, you simply give it back or walk away a little richer!
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN |
| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 08:19:14
Not if they give you too much
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos. |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 08:18:03
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis
In your defense, it's not your job to count the change at the store. Isn't it enough you have to drive there, prepare the list, walk around the store and find your items, work like a dog to acquire the money you supply to purchase the goods, take them home and use them to feed and support your family and prepare for the next venture to the store and on top of all that you have to count the fucking change too? Gimmie a break
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
In all due respect, it IS your job to count your change at the store! If one is so paranoid of the meager wages one worked like a dog to aquire, I would think one would have counted it in one's head before you even got to the checkout! So many one's! I always count my change, as I think Llamadance probably does (it's what got him into this mess initially). I want my damn money! More often than not, uncaring and abused cashier's tend to short-change me...I swear to Frank, three out of five times I am given change it's horribly wrong. Once you get home and you realize you've been short-changed (and usually it's a matter of dollars, not cents...or, 'pounds' as you folks with the funny accents and secret agents say) it's harder to get the money back than if you discover it on the spot. Your money IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN |
| PixieSteve |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 06:15:47
can't you people do maths. he got £13.44 too much, not £12.72.... i think.
 Oh let it linger |
| Surfer Rosa |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 00:38:25
What LBF said. |
| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 20:29:30
quote:
Originally posted by Llamadance
So, I went to the supermarket on Sunday for few things, the total of which came to £16.72. Unusually for me, I paid in cash, (£20), but as the checkout girl's mind must have been elsewhere, she gave me £16.72 in change.
I noticed straight away, as I wasn't expecting notes in the change, and I was just about to say something, but stopped and got out of there pretty quickly. I'm sort of surprised at myself, as I usually point these kind of things out, but equally, I feel a bit justified as we spend hundreds of pounds a month in there.
So, am I a thief and moral void, or just a normal person. What would you have done?
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In your defense, it's not your job to count the change at the store. Isn't it enough you have to drive there, prepare the list, walk around the store and find your items, work like a dog to acquire the money you supply to purchase the goods, take them home and use them to feed and support your family and prepare for the next venture to the store and on top of all that you have to count the fucking change too? Gimmie a break
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos. |
| floop |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 19:33:39
i once found $200 on the floor in the check out line at the supermaket. i could never really know if it fell out of the register or if a customer dropped it. but, the right thing to do would probably have been to give it to the check out guy. which i didn't do.
the other day at my local bread store i was 50 cents short and they said to pay them next time. which i did today. i'm slowly building my karma back. |
| IceCream |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 18:35:40
donate the 12.72 to charity. or Go to some kid in Africa and give him the converted currency; I'm sure it'll do wonders for his education. |
| floop |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 18:25:54
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Originally posted by Carl
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| astrology |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 15:03:23
i dont know about the fucking karma, but the survellance camera filmed everything..
you will notice the strange way the supermarket staff stares at you next time you go back...
I'm a pistolero, i'm not shakin in my boots
I'm the ruler of this moon, if u move I shoots
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 12:25:11
Haha, just kidding.
I would have given it back though.
Pack a fan, it's hot down there.
Don't believe the type!
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| Llamadance |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 11:53:36
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
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The amount isn't the issue.
He's going to hell.
Don't believe the type!
Say it aint so 
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| Llamadance |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 11:49:10
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
No! I'm sorry! I didn't mean for it to be harsh...and I apologize for coming off harsh. I just meant to be black and white about the issue. I'm VERY sorry for having it seem I used the "shut the hell up" as a personal attack...that is far from what I meant it to be. Maybe not the best use of words. What I meant was that this is all up to YOU. It seemed you started this thread for advice based on a possible bad judgement you had made. I was just offering the 2 cents I had to give you for advice. I meant all the best in my heart. And what I've learned is that it is all up to the INDIVIDUAL facing these matters. We ultimately are alone when it comes to certain things...we are born alone, we die alone, and we lie, cheat, steal, forgive, and prosper alone. Luckily, though, we have the will to ask for guidance in these matters, and you have excersized that will. So, what I originally meant was it is all up to you. And you've made a decision. If you are happy with it, that's all that matters! No judgement from me, man! I've been there!
No worries Transmarine, forums can be so one dimensional when you're trying to say something. I didn't really think that's what you meant, but didn't know what you meant. If that makes sense.
I've made my decision, you're right, and I wouldn't change it for something as small as this. Any residual guilt that exists will disappear. I guess I'm wondering why I did it, when I wouldn't usually. I don't expect the threads answers to help directly, but it's interesting (to me at least) to explore it.
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 11:22:56
quote:
Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
Who cares about those £12.72, actually? Forget it and sleep in peace tonight.
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro
The amount isn't the issue.
He's going to hell.
Don't believe the type!
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| Carl |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 10:30:34
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| whoreatthedoor |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 10:12:49
Compassion is for pussies.
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro |
| Broken Face |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 10:08:01
quote:
Originally posted by jediroller
I have to admit I would have pointed it to her - and then beat myself up for being so stupid.
I've actually done worse - e.g. returned unclaimed money (which I found coming out of an ATM I was about to use) to security, who undoubtedly split the sum between themselves, laughing at the sucker who brought it to them.
I just can't help it, it's one of the many crippling flaws in my character.
Wot di fuk?
When i was in San Diego on vacation last year, i was at a Padres game and i was about to use the ATM (its the kind you swipe your card through, so you only need to swipe when you first walk up and then you can put your card away). The dude before me stepped away and it asked it "Would you like another transaction?" - So, i could've gone into his bank account and taken out $200 (the max on that machine @ one t ime). However, i just said "no thanks" and went about my own transaction. I don't feel bad about not stealing from some guy who probably wanted a beer.
-Brian
If you move I shoots!
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| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 10:01:08
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Originally posted by Llamadance
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
LLamadance, you have two choices that hinge on who YOU are...not how WE percieve you, but how you percieve your feelings:
You can keep the money and shut the hell up and get over it. Sometimes money is free.
That sounds a bit harsh man, it's a forum, and I hoped the thread would mutate into a more general dicussion about the issue.
As for the other stuff, I've made my choice, I'll live with it. I guess what happened to you is what everyone fears in that instance.
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No! I'm sorry! I didn't mean for it to be harsh...and I apologize for coming off harsh. I just meant to be black and white about the issue. I'm VERY sorry for having it seem I used the "shut the hell up" as a personal attack...that is far from what I meant it to be. Maybe not the best use of words. What I meant was that this is all up to YOU. It seemed you started this thread for advice based on a possible bad judgement you had made. I was just offering the 2 cents I had to give you for advice. I meant all the best in my heart. And what I've learned is that it is all up to the INDIVIDUAL facing these matters. We ultimately are alone when it comes to certain things...we are born alone, we die alone, and we lie, cheat, steal, forgive, and prosper alone. Luckily, though, we have the will to ask for guidance in these matters, and you have excersized that will. So, what I originally meant was it is all up to you. And you've made a decision. If you are happy with it, that's all that matters! No judgement from me, man! I've been there!
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN |
| speedy_m |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 09:42:13
First single: "Weird Culinary Habits".
I am God's brother, his soul mate and team mate/He passes me info-mation/and I reciprocate |
| speedy_m |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 09:40:41
Thread title would be a good album title. Go with it Llamadance.
I am God's brother, his soul mate and team mate/He passes me info-mation/and I reciprocate |
| Carl |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 09:39:11
I've had that happen before. You just go "Ah, well", and thank your lucky stars! |
| kathryn |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 09:37:36
What floop said.
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
| whoreatthedoor |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 09:25:28
Who cares about those £12.72, actually? Forget it and sleep in peace tonight.
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro |
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