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| kathryn |
Posted - 06/06/2005 : 09:17:50
Anybody wanna make some money betting on whether Wacko Jacko's
gonna get convicted or aquitted?
I say the perv walks and I bet you one US dollar.
You?
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 08/10/2005 : 06:31:42
Too true. These peple are @ssholes.
Don't believe the type!
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| zub_the_goat |
Posted - 08/10/2005 : 01:16:01
grrr, that makes me mad...there should be some kind of law against this sort of thing *if* he is guilty then why the hell would they let him out? obviously they are going to get more money if they say something controversial rather than a simple account of what happened. They have either put more kiddies in danger if they gave the wrong verdict or are ruining a mans life for money if innocent |
| Carl |
Posted - 08/10/2005 : 01:06:52
If they felt he was guilty, they should have done the right thing. And one of the books is called 'Guilty As Sin, Free As A Bird'?! Fucking arsehole. |
| Kirk |
Posted - 08/09/2005 : 20:08:55
Call me crazy, but I think Jackson is innocent of molestation charges.
And these Jurors have intentions of making money from their upcoming book sales. They were shown the money, and they're willing to change their opinion. |
| kathryn |
Posted - 08/09/2005 : 19:42:36
8/10/5 LA Times article
2 Jurors Now Say Jackson Is Guilty
Two of the 12 jurors who acquitted Michael Jackson of child-molestation charges said Monday that they were pressured to do so by other jurors and now regret their decision.
The jurors — Eleanor Cook and Ray Hultman — made their statements to interviewer Rita Cosby on cable network MSNBC.
"People just wouldn't take their blinders off long enough to really look at all the evidence that was there," said Hultman, 62, of Santa Maria, Calif., where the trial was held.
As are a number of other jurors, both Hultman and Cook, 79, are planning to write books about their five months on the high-profile case. Cook's will be titled "Guilty as Sin, Free as a Bird" and Hultman's will be called "The Deliberator," according to Larry Garrison, who said he will help co-write both projects.
Garrison said neither book has a publisher. But Cook plans to share any profits with the charity Feed the Children, Garrison said.
Asked by Cosby whether their statements were motivated by money, both jurors said no.
"I'm speaking out now because I believe it's never too late to tell the truth," Cook said.
Jackson was acquitted June 13 of 14 counts in connection with allegations he molested a 13-year-old cancer survivor at his Neverland ranch in the Santa Ynez Valley. His lead defense attorney, Thomas A. Mesereau Jr., discounted the jurors' interview Monday as "embarrassing and outrageous."
"These people voted not guilty 14 times," said Mesereau, who also appeared on Cosby's show. "Now, nearly two months after being discharged, they're changing their tune. I think it's laughable."
Reached at his office during the program, Santa Barbara County Dist. Atty. Tom Sneddon said he wasn't watching the show and would have no comment on what the jurors were saying.
"It's over with," he said. "It isn't going to make any difference what I say or what I feel."
Prosecutors cannot appeal the acquittal, and overturning one is virtually impossible under the law.
The jurors' contention that they were coerced to vote not guilty was disputed by fellow panelist Susan Drake, 51, who was reached at her Santa Ynez home on Monday night.
Drake said that during deliberations, Hultman and Cook "were clear in expressing their feeling he might be guilty but totally clear that the evidence wasn't there and reasonable doubt prevailed."
She said that discussions in the jury room were thoughtful and courteous, hardly the intimidating environment her colleagues discussed on television.
"We would ring the bell if more than one person was talking and we would refer to the evidence and talk one at a time and present evidence we thought was appropriate," she said.
In their TV appearance, Hultman and Cook tried to distance themselves from the jury's decision to find Jackson not guilty, which was reached after more than six days of deliberations.
"They're the ones that let a pedophile go," Cook said. "We didn't."
Hultman speculated that a number of witnesses who offered testimony favorable to Jackson were paid off or otherwise influenced improperly — an allegation that Mesereau vigorously denied.
Hultman pointed in particular to the testimony of Deborah Rowe, Jackson's ex-wife, who stunned prosecutors when she had nothing but good things to say about the singer's parenting skills.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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| BLT |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 14:49:32
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve
someone already make that joke, kinda :(
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 12:27:45
quote:
Originally posted by dayanara
Third picture down, it's The Kaiser Chiefs.
Don't believe the type!
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| PixieSteve |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 10:05:36
someone already make that joke, kinda :(
 Oh let it linger |
| BLT |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 08:15:45
quote:
Originally posted by floop
isn't the word "until" misspelled on that guys license plate frame?
If you restudy the frame, you will eventually see what he's trying to say:
THE WRONG CASH DRAWER HAS BEEN CONVICTED.
Unfortunately, I am not familiar with that case.
 Where is Dustin? |
| PixieSteve |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 06:19:15
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=till
Usage Note: Till and until are generally interchangeable in both writing and speech, though as the first word in a sentence until is usually preferred: Until you get that paper written, don't even think about going to the movies. ·Till is actually the older word, with until having been formed by the addition to it of the prefix un-, meaning “up to.” In the 18th century the spelling 'till became fashionable, as if till were a shortened form of until. Although 'till is now nonstandard, 'til is sometimes used in this way and is considered acceptable, though it is etymologically incorrect.
Oh let it linger |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 06:04:24
quote:
Originally posted by floop
isn't the word "until" misspelled on that guys license plate frame?
Yeah I'm sure there is supposed to be a K.
Don't believe the type!
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| vilainde |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 01:14:47
This week's title in theonion.com: "Enchanted By Own Innocence, Michael Jackson Molests Self"
Denis
I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul! |
| VoVat |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 22:06:40
quote:
isn't the word "until" misspelled on that guys license plate frame?
No, he's saying an innocent till was proven guilty.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
| Carl |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 20:10:33
The guy being held up is Irish, he had that 'Ireland still loves you Micheal' flag. If I every run into him... ;) |
| dayanara |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 19:44:04
i can handle the too-tight nazi armband, but what is with the chunky stuff all over his hand? too poor for a sparkly glove? |
| floop |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 19:40:11
isn't the word "until" misspelled on that guys license plate frame? |
| dayanara |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 19:36:15
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| Carl |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 18:23:22
She would have left them in the cage! There was probably a dove assigned to each charge!! "Sorry, dove, but you have to suffer 'cos MJ was guilty on that count!" |
| VoVat |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 18:19:01
I have to wonder what the dove lady would have done had Jackson been found guilty. Shot them?
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
| Coldheartofstone |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 15:23:20
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
[quote]Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson
I much rather see another tour or something
 "I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
Not me... He looks so frail he may break in two on stage or something...NOT something I wanna see.
If time is my vessel, then learning to love
Might be my way back to sea |
| billgoodman |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 14:00:23
quote:
Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson
not innocent, "not guilty".
difference.
what do you mean, how long will he last?
I think he looks wrecked
it's awful that after all those years
Micheal can still horrify me with again
a lesser human look
I think he will be death very soon,
tragically
I don't hope so of course
I much rather see another tour or something
"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!" |
| BLT |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 12:23:18
DATELINE SANTA MARIA, CALIFORNIA: Jackson Ending Sleepovers in His Room
SANTA MARIA, Calif. (AP) - Michael Jackson's lawyer said Tuesday he is convinced that the pop star "has never molested any child," but he said Jackson would no longer let children or their families sleep in his room...
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 11:05:38
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn
I am sure he did get off. Perv.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
At least someone got it.
Don't believe the type!
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| Carl |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 09:41:22
He looked doped to the nines. I'm sure he went home and had a good float in the isolation tank. |
| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 09:18:24
quote:
Originally posted by BLT
I figured KSR'd be on his way to Santa Ynez with a shotgun by now.
only natural someone would say this after that one post about justice to sex offenders being administered by big guys with baseball bats.
i really don't have strong feelings about this one at all.
i lean towards him having not done it actually, but I've been so disgusted with just about everything that is happening in the world i haven't been paying attention to the trial. i don't have cable or anything.. i listen to NPR in the morning which is hard enough what with the "a car bomb exploded in tikrit today..." running tally.
please, no lib/con argument.
i know i'm stupid, i know i deserve it, just keep it in the holster, ok?
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| whoreatthedoor |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 09:05:55
It was an obvious choice actually. I wish I was a member of that jury.
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro |
| jediroller |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 06:52:44
Now all jacko has to do is get a record out quick while the media are hot. Maybe a super-funky cover of Morrissey's "I Changed My Plea To Guilty"
"... 'cause freedom is waasted ooon meeee..."
or Oingo Boingo's "Little Girls"?
"They don’t care if I’m a one way mirror / They’re not frightened by my cold exterior..."
Any other suggestions? A song by The Vaselines perhaps :-P
Wot di fuk? |
| kathryn |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 06:29:22
I am sure he did get off. Perv.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 05:49:42
I see he got off on all charges.
I guess floop WAS wrong!
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| Llamadance |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 00:44:08
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
innoncent!
Was that a typo?
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No power in the 'verse can stop me |
| kathryn |
Posted - 06/13/2005 : 18:07:39
Daisy, I want you back!
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
| Daisy Girl |
Posted - 06/13/2005 : 17:32:33
it's so sad that this is big news.
is it even sadder that in my head i am like I would love to see the jackson 5 on tour? when the commontator said they might get back and tour...
I know it's pathetic... but the Jackson 5 Rocked!
Ok I know he is probabaly really a pedofile... so I won't go. |
| BLT |
Posted - 06/13/2005 : 15:39:14
I figured KSR'd be on his way to Santa Ynez with a shotgun by now. |
| PixieSteve |
Posted - 06/13/2005 : 15:34:25
cheers, to both.
Oh let it linger |
| kathryn |
Posted - 06/13/2005 : 15:30:50
In the US legal system the burden is on the prosecution to prove guilt
beyond a shadow of a doubt. A jury finds a defendant not guilty
because the state didn't make its case beyond said shadow of a doubt.
You can not be found "innocent" nor can you plea "innocent" - only
guilty or not guilty.
Sorry to go on. I used to do this for work.
Just saw your post, KSR. That pretty much applies in every state, not
just Massachusetts.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
