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TarTar Posted - 04/28/2005 : 10:05:54
ARGH! Absolutely dreadful! The Weezer record makes the last two pieces of crap they put out look better by comparison. This one is void of rocking out, key changes, unpredictable yet infectious melodies, and many other things that made Weezer great. The lyrics are contrived as hell. It's so slickly produced that you could slide all the way across it without even knowing you listened to it. There's just nothing engaging about the record. Okay, well, as far as I can tell, there's one song that I think is quite excellent, and that is "This is such a pity," which is a step forward for Weezer even though it harkens back to the 80's like no other New Wave retro band can. The song has quite a wicked sounding solo and the lyrics aren't AS bad as much of the rest of the words on the album. The melody is fantastic. At least we got one great song out of it... but dammit, we used to get 10 great songs on Weezer records. Oh well.

Let 'em riot. We're Sonic-fuckin'-Death Monkey.
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Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 05/13/2005 : 11:23:24
Rivers has a solo album out?


I guess floop WAS right!
ProverbialCereal Posted - 05/13/2005 : 10:40:44
is it Quiet Riot? I remember hearing who it was but I forgot.


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geertos Posted - 05/13/2005 : 07:11:40
If I may abuse this thread for asking a Weezer-related question:

In the booklet of the blue album, there's a picture of their guitars and drumset, and there's a poster of a band (well, at least a picture of a guitarist and a singer) hanging on the wall. Does anybody know which band that is? My first guess would be Kiss ("In the garage..."), but since the faces are not painted, I have no idea.
Jose Jones Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:48:19
i love hearing horrible things about this album before i actually hear it. i finally heard it yesterday and wasn't nearly as horrified as i thought i'd be. it just kind of reminded me of rooney. music that is all right, but i would just never choose to listen to it over most of the music i own.

now i'll continue to listen to the new spoon and raveonettes albums...

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TRANSMARINE Posted - 05/12/2005 : 08:10:13
quote:
Originally posted by Domestiques

quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

WEEZER just plain out-and-out SUCKS.
They are completely dry, old, stale, and stupid. Basically a one-album wonder. They just need to quit. Everything that Rivers Cuomo had to say made its way onto the Blue Album, which is miraculously wonderful. Everything after is just crap. Pinkerton is crap. The Green album is crap. Actually it's shit. Maladroit is rotten shit. Beverly Hills is quite possibly the worst of the bunch. WEEZER is a band that has hit a brick wall, and continues to drive deeper into the clay.

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN


Sorry you are wrong, simple as that, we will talk of it no more.

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They said, “You’re overqualified.
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I'm NOT sorry that I'm RIGHT, and I agree...let's bury Weezer 6 feet under and talk of it no more.

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

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Domestiques Posted - 05/12/2005 : 06:52:49
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

WEEZER just plain out-and-out SUCKS.
They are completely dry, old, stale, and stupid. Basically a one-album wonder. They just need to quit. Everything that Rivers Cuomo had to say made its way onto the Blue Album, which is miraculously wonderful. Everything after is just crap. Pinkerton is crap. The Green album is crap. Actually it's shit. Maladroit is rotten shit. Beverly Hills is quite possibly the worst of the bunch. WEEZER is a band that has hit a brick wall, and continues to drive deeper into the clay.

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN


Sorry you are wrong, simple as that, we will talk of it no more.

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“I want to be a star!” I cried
They said, “You’re overqualified.
Why don’t you learn to tune your damn guitar?”
Thomas Posted - 05/12/2005 : 05:50:37
Oh and I'm down with P!


"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard"
Thomas Posted - 05/12/2005 : 05:50:02
Make Believe you're Weezer -
Well I finaly got to hear the new album, downloaded it from bi-torrent, and it's nothing to write home about. After Beverly Hills, which is way to overproduced (what is that girl saying anyway), I was just bored listening to the rest of the songs. Nothing stood out. I loved Blue and Pinkerton they are classics and I know it's not for me to say, but I wish they would have stopped there. Since they didn't I'll have to rate the Green album better than Make Believe and Maladroit is a solid middle album.


"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard"
billgoodman Posted - 05/12/2005 : 05:33:49
indeed
the rivers solo work has that vibe

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
ProverbialCereal Posted - 05/11/2005 : 19:59:48
I agree with billgoodman. Longtime Sunshine is a beautiful song and a Rivers solo album would be a step in the right direction. I've loved weezer through the years. Make Believe sounds good so far, and Maladroit was good, but I don't see them creating another album as quality as the blue or pinkerton. And I don't mean one that SOUNDS like those albums.

I think a Rivers solo album would be amazing as long as the lyrics weren't generic, and it wasn't overproduced, but more "I recorded this in my room" sound.


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billgoodman Posted - 05/06/2005 : 00:19:00
pinkerton is great
it's not crap

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
danjersey Posted - 05/05/2005 : 20:18:44
it's so simple, WEEZER with Matt Sharp.........well, " WEEZER"
WEEZER without.................................... 'weeser'

oH yeA, that felt gooooooooooooooooooooooooooD
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 05/05/2005 : 11:07:17
Hey no need to apologize, it was funny.


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TRANSMARINE Posted - 05/05/2005 : 10:16:46
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

I think you need to take a trip here TRANSMARINE:

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12886


I joined the secret forum, and all I got was this lousy secret




Heh. Somehow I have missed seeing this thread. Normally I dont get so worked up and lose my cool. I am now embarrased because I have reduced myself to cursing and shouting hatred. I apologize. It's just so maddening when a band fizzles out so horribly so quickly and continues to flounder.

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 05/05/2005 : 09:22:52
I think you need to take a trip here TRANSMARINE:

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12886


I joined the secret forum, and all I got was this lousy secret
TRANSMARINE Posted - 05/05/2005 : 09:17:05
OOps...sorry about that weird double post. I meant to edit myself and correct my error regarding Beverly Hills as the title of Make Believe. I became so caught up in my rant my fingers lost control.

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN
TRANSMARINE Posted - 05/05/2005 : 09:15:21
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

WEEZER just plain out-and-out SUCKS.
They are completely dry, old, stale, and stupid. Basically a one-album wonder. They just need to quit. Everything that Rivers Cuomo had to say made its way onto the Blue Album, which is miraculously wonderful. Everything after is just crap. Pinkerton is crap. The Green album is crap. Actually it's shit. Maladroit is rotten shit. Make Believe is quite possibly the worst of the bunch. WEEZER is a band that has hit a brick wall, and continues to drive deeper into the clay.

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN



Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN
TRANSMARINE Posted - 05/05/2005 : 09:13:10
WEEZER just plain out-and-out SUCKS.
They are completely dry, old, stale, and stupid. Basically a one-album wonder. They just need to quit. Everything that Rivers Cuomo had to say made its way onto the Blue Album, which is miraculously wonderful. Everything after is just crap. Pinkerton is crap. The Green album is crap. Actually it's shit. Maladroit is rotten shit. Beverly Hills is quite possibly the worst of the bunch. WEEZER is a band that has hit a brick wall, and continues to drive deeper into the clay.

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN
billgoodman Posted - 05/05/2005 : 01:46:41
quote:
Originally posted by geertos

Return of the Rentals is very, very mediocre. The album is residing in my "I never play these"-pile for the last two years (along with the second Cell album, the Boo Radleys’ Kingsize, a Blake Babies album,... well, you get the idea). First of all, the vocals are very weak and tiresome. And overall, the album didn't age very well. Well, actually, it aged just as well as you might expect from a 90's send-up of 80's poppy new wave. Bad new wave, that is. It's just not even catchy songwriting, which is obviously the one thing that could have saved it.

As for Beverly Hills : it’s in the same league as Undone, and way better than El Scorcho, their two other "novelty" lead-off singles. And it's also way better than "Friends of P" for that matter. Word of advice: play it really loud !

The Green album is three times as good as Pinkerton. Don't let go is better than Tired of sex. Photograph is better than Getchoo ...and I can go on like this for the other 8 tracks. Every single track could have been released as a single. Every time I put that disc in my player, it stays in there for at least two complete spins. It’s classic, timeless, infectuous, well-crafted pure pop, and it rocks reclessly. One of the 10 best albums of the 00’s.

If anybody else is going to call the three latest album not up to par with Blue/Pinkerton, I think I’ll scream. First of all because it’s not true, second because it makes no sense. It would be like dismissing anything of FB’s output compared to Surfer Rosa / Doolittle.

Aaah, that felt good.



I disagree with everything you say
no hard feelings though
the vocals are weak on Return of the Rentals
but the songwriting and the moogs are great
really
rivers doesn't sound that sprankling on maladriot either

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
vb7000 Posted - 05/04/2005 : 12:59:46
Here's a decent preview:

http://www.weezerjonas.com/CDA5240F87574D8387EBDE8FEC733210/tracklink.asp?guid=37ECBB98389842468E05D05160CCE573
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 05/02/2005 : 11:33:29
quote:
Originally posted by geertos



It would be like dismissing anything of FB’s output compared to Surfer Rosa / Doolittle.

Aaah, that felt good.



Well they are his finest.


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vilainde Posted - 05/02/2005 : 07:30:49
I like Beverly Hills. I can't compare with their other works though, I don't have any albums by them.


Denis

"His chops are too righteous. The helmets can't handle this level of rock 'n' roll. Karen, do something!"
geertos Posted - 05/02/2005 : 07:22:12
Return of the Rentals is very, very mediocre. The album is residing in my "I never play these"-pile for the last two years (along with the second Cell album, the Boo Radleys’ Kingsize, a Blake Babies album,... well, you get the idea). First of all, the vocals are very weak and tiresome. And overall, the album didn't age very well. Well, actually, it aged just as well as you might expect from a 90's send-up of 80's poppy new wave. Bad new wave, that is. It's just not even catchy songwriting, which is obviously the one thing that could have saved it.

As for Beverly Hills : it’s in the same league as Undone, and way better than El Scorcho, their two other "novelty" lead-off singles. And it's also way better than "Friends of P" for that matter. Word of advice: play it really loud !

The Green album is three times as good as Pinkerton. Don't let go is better than Tired of sex. Photograph is better than Getchoo ...and I can go on like this for the other 8 tracks. Every single track could have been released as a single. Every time I put that disc in my player, it stays in there for at least two complete spins. It’s classic, timeless, infectuous, well-crafted pure pop, and it rocks reclessly. One of the 10 best albums of the 00’s.

If anybody else is going to call the three latest album not up to par with Blue/Pinkerton, I think I’ll scream. First of all because it’s not true, second because it makes no sense. It would be like dismissing anything of FB’s output compared to Surfer Rosa / Doolittle.

Aaah, that felt good.
floop Posted - 05/01/2005 : 15:23:34
quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

as a recovering weezer fan, this is what will help everyone move on:
http://www.matadorrecords.com/mpeg/the_new_pornographers/new_pornos_twin_cinema.mp3

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they were the heroes of old, men of renown.



nice. thank you Jose!


new pornographers: best band of this decade thus far
The Holiday Son Posted - 05/01/2005 : 15:22:04
I second Return of The Rentals. It's as good as blue and pinkerton.
billgoodman Posted - 05/01/2005 : 15:01:29
try Pinkerton or the Blue album
great stuff

actually

Return of the Rentals (by ex-bass player Matt Sharp) is fantastic too

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
ElevatorLady Posted - 05/01/2005 : 12:18:58
I think I understand now why I couldn't understand how come people are so crazy about this band. I gave one of their records a listen once at the record shop and thought it was really boring and crappy. It was strange because everybody was so excited about this band and I just couldn't understand why. But I guess I just picked the wrong CD.
Jordo Posted - 05/01/2005 : 11:35:29
I'm interested in hearing Make Believe BUT WOHHH "Beverly Hills" is a piece of crap.

Besides that the song is just really boring, the video is what made me hate it. They are trying to show how they are "above" hollywood and beverly hills, they dont need it to think theyre cool, the song is all "ironic" and cheeky and sarcastically saying "Beverly Hills, thats where I want to be" (Cause GET IT, he DOESNT want to be there, cause its all phony ... get it??)

But the video is shot at the playboy mansion, with like models and crap all around them. Oh yeah Rivers, I'm sure that was HELL to shoot, I'm sure it was horrible, Beverly Hills really does suck. It's like the most hypocritical bullshit...Its this big fancy expensive video at the Playboy mansion and we're suppossed to like agree with Rivers and feel sorry for him... It really made me mad. Like, instantly.


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ElevatorLady Posted - 05/01/2005 : 10:45:59
quote:
Originally posted by Doog

Why do topics die as soon as I post in them? :(

"Join the cult of Ray/He was the best Ghostbuster"
www.doog.tk



It's all in your head, Doog. As far as I'm concerned, it's nice to see you posting again.
billgoodman Posted - 05/01/2005 : 09:56:50
Even the album 5 demos were great (modern dukes, mad kow, which were green album demos too)
They just want to satisfy a large group. Geffen was a sort of cool label in the early 90's. But only because indie (or grunge) music was hip that day. Geffen is now part of a much bigger major, and their only concern is to sell sell sell!

But I don't hate Make Believe, I think it's better than Green, because that was to most 'instant-poppunk'-album ever, the songs weren't bad but the production was horrible.
This album has some diversity in the production that I like. But I think the songs aren't as great
as before. The lyrics are really weak too

pfff, I got used to it already
Maladriot was a weak album as a whole (american gigolo, possibilites)
Tracks didn't fit together.
Weezer-fans hate it, people think it's really bad, but to be honest
it has some killer songs on it.

Weezer used to have great singles
(Yes I do think Hash Pipe and Dope Nose are great popsongs)
but no the singles for this album (Beverly Hills and We're all on drugs)
are the weakest songs in their career. How is that possible?

anyway, Rivers should sign with matador and do a solo album, his solo
song Longtime Sunshine is killer, it's from the great Pinkerton-era
download it!

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
Doog Posted - 05/01/2005 : 09:01:07
Why do topics die as soon as I post in them? :(

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www.doog.tk
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/30/2005 : 07:52:54
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

Oh dear. Then again weren't you one of the ones who hated Beverley Hills? I don't mind that song. Having said that, I can see me growing tired of it pretty soon.


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Yup, I'm bored now.


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Doog Posted - 04/30/2005 : 07:38:51
I wish Rivers would change their name. It doesn't feel like the same band who did Surf Wax America or Tired Of Sex, it almost feels embarrasing calling yourself "a Weezer fan" when they haven't put out anything decent in years.

And Beverly Hills is fucking terrible.

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Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/30/2005 : 06:51:13
Wait 'til you hear their first two albums.


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PsychicTwin Posted - 04/30/2005 : 06:37:54
gotta say, I've never heard any New Pornographers....and i'm listening to that one through headphones.

VERY enjoyable

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