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| Erebus |
Posted - 11/04/2004 : 10:43:10
I suppose most of you are familiar with this but I thought we might like to see one view of Bush's popular vote majority. Much more striking than the red state/blue state map, and more telling. Small town & rural vs. big city, of course. Is this a divided nation or what?
Square miles of counties won:
Bush 3.28 million
Kerry 741,000
Population (2003) of counties won:
Bush 150.9 million
Kerry 103.6 million
Note: County election data is not reported for Alaska,
Source: the Associated Press, ESRI Inc. USATODAY analysis by Paul Overberg.
link to this and similar 2000 map:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm
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| VoVat |
Posted - 11/07/2004 : 13:48:58
True. Maybe there should be a chart based on that.
I'll bet a lot of American voters didn't even know who the candidates were. ("Hmm, I think curry is too spicy, but I like bushes, because berries grow on them. I also like corn on the cob, though, so I'm not sure.")
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 11/07/2004 : 10:28:06
I think if an American citizen who voted didn't know that these maps were of the United States, that would be considered stupid.
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| billgoodman |
Posted - 11/07/2004 : 09:25:58
this isn't about Giant Sand's all over the map
right?
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| toeknee |
Posted - 11/07/2004 : 07:04:17
I think it's a testament to the nerdiness of Frank Black's fans that a map topic has 50 replies. |
| El Barto |
Posted - 11/07/2004 : 01:33:32
Great map, Dave. Fascinating.
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
| slaveish |
Posted - 11/06/2004 : 16:20:00
I think literacy rates would be a more accurate gauge of a state's educational system. |
| soundofataris |
Posted - 11/06/2004 : 13:19:22
quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal
But, South Carolina is pretty stupid. I hate how many people have Confederate flag stickers on their cars... I mean trucks.
You'll be eating those words when the south rises again.
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| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 11/06/2004 : 13:06:19
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face
State Avg. IQ vs. Election 2004
1 Connecticut 113 Kerry
2 Massachusetts 111 Kerry
3 New Jersey 111 Kerry
4 New York 109 Kerry
5 Rhode Island 107 Kerry
6 Hawaii 106 Kerry
7 Maryland 105 Kerry
8 New Hampshire 105 Kerry
9 Illinois 104 Kerry
10 Delaware 103 Kerry
11 Minnesota 102 Kerry
12 Vermont 102 Kerry
13 Washington 102 Kerry
14 California 101 Kerry
15 Pennsylvania 101 Kerry
16 Maine 100 Kerry
17 Virginia 100 Bush
18 Wisconsin 100 Kerry
19 Colorado 99 Bush
20 Iowa 99 "---"
21 Michigan 99 Kerry
22 Nevada 99 Bush
23 Ohio 99 Bush
24 Oregon 99 Kerry
25 Alaska 98 Bush
26 Florida 98 Bush
27 Missouri 98 Bush
28 Kansas 96 Bush
29 Nebraska 95 Bush
30 Arizona 94 Bush
31 Indiana 94 Bush
32 Tennessee 94 Bush
33 North Carolina 93 Bush
34 West Virginia 93 Bush
35 Arkansas 92 Bush
36 Georgia 92 Bush
37 Kentucky 92 Bush
38 New Mexico 92 "---"
39 North Dakota 92 Bush
40 Texas 92 Bush
41 Alabama 90 Bush
42 Louisiana 90 Bush
43 Montana 90 Bush
44 Oklahoma 90 Bush
45 South Dakota 90 Bush
46 South Carolina 89 Bush
47 Wyoming 89 Bush
48 Idaho 87 Bush
49 Utah 87 Bush
50 Mississippi 85 Bush
-brian
Grrreat, and I was born in Mississippi. At least I lived in Maryland most of my life and they are up there on the IQ list. Still I find this unreliable, just the idea of saying this state has a higher IQ than that state. I agree with Vovat.
But, South Carolina is pretty stupid. I hate how many people have Confederate flag stickers on their cars... I mean trucks.
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| soundofataris |
Posted - 11/06/2004 : 12:56:23
But there still is this, though, for real IQ stats:
http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQ-States.htm
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There's a lack of sweetness in my life
People in love are stupid and gross. |
| soundofataris |
Posted - 11/06/2004 : 12:48:58
And this:
http://americanassembler.com/features/iq_state_averages.htm
that settles that. They just replaced Gore's name with Kerry's.
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I go to bakeries all day long
There's a lack of sweetness in my life
People in love are stupid and gross. |
| soundofataris |
Posted - 11/06/2004 : 12:46:19
Hey, I found this. I don't know if it refers to the source of the IQ stuff, but its interesting none the less:
http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~kenyon3/2004.htm
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I go to bakeries all day long
There's a lack of sweetness in my life
People in love are stupid and gross. |
| VoVat |
Posted - 11/06/2004 : 12:38:25
So where did Indiana and Ohio go wrong?
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
| harringk |
Posted - 11/06/2004 : 11:02:15
Yeah I always thought we would be better off with slaves. One of these days we're going to get enough redneck judges on the supreme court to make it legal again. Damn Lincoln. |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 11/06/2004 : 10:39:42
Now that's thought provoking.
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| Dave Noisy |
Posted - 11/06/2004 : 09:31:53
One more map for your viewing pleasure!
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| VoVat |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 17:59:54
Do they have IQ tests in the UK?
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| n/a |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 12:58:44
Ha, I take mr Blobby and I raise you The simple life
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| Newo |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 12:53:34
From a rep of the country that gave the world Mr. Blobby that means a lot.
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| n/a |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 12:51:43
Obvioulsy IQ and voting Bush are related, I mean look, the people in the UK are the most intelligent in the world and none of us voted for Bush...
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| Newo |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 12:48:41
If Connecticut are so smart how come they pronounce it Conneticut?
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But whenever, as scholars sometimes do, I turned my back on books, declaring them to be the graveyards of the language, and sought contact with the simple folk, I encountered the little cannibals who lived in our building, and after brief association with them, felt very glad to get back to my reading in one piece.
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| El Barto |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 12:42:11
Haha...damn. Waiting to get the reference source so I can proudly display those stats on my website.
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
| Broken Face |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 11:37:55
my source is on my work computer - i'll post it on monday when i go back
-brian
- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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| ramona |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 10:33:55
It's not that ENTIRE population. It's the average. Right?
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| soundofataris |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 10:28:57
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face
State Avg. IQ vs. Election 2004
1 Connecticut 113 Kerry
2 Massachusetts 111 Kerry
3 New Jersey 111 Kerry
4 New York 109 Kerry
5 Rhode Island 107 Kerry
6 Hawaii 106 Kerry
7 Maryland 105 Kerry
8 New Hampshire 105 Kerry
9 Illinois 104 Kerry
10 Delaware 103 Kerry
11 Minnesota 102 Kerry
12 Vermont 102 Kerry
13 Washington 102 Kerry
14 California 101 Kerry
15 Pennsylvania 101 Kerry
16 Maine 100 Kerry
17 Virginia 100 Bush
18 Wisconsin 100 Kerry
19 Colorado 99 Bush
20 Iowa 99 "---"
21 Michigan 99 Kerry
22 Nevada 99 Bush
23 Ohio 99 Bush
24 Oregon 99 Kerry
25 Alaska 98 Bush
26 Florida 98 Bush
27 Missouri 98 Bush
28 Kansas 96 Bush
29 Nebraska 95 Bush
30 Arizona 94 Bush
31 Indiana 94 Bush
32 Tennessee 94 Bush
33 North Carolina 93 Bush
34 West Virginia 93 Bush
35 Arkansas 92 Bush
36 Georgia 92 Bush
37 Kentucky 92 Bush
38 New Mexico 92 "---"
39 North Dakota 92 Bush
40 Texas 92 Bush
41 Alabama 90 Bush
42 Louisiana 90 Bush
43 Montana 90 Bush
44 Oklahoma 90 Bush
45 South Dakota 90 Bush
46 South Carolina 89 Bush
47 Wyoming 89 Bush
48 Idaho 87 Bush
49 Utah 87 Bush
50 Mississippi 85 Bush
-brian
- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
where did you get these IQ stats? I find them quite hard to believe. How can the entire population of mississippi be boarderline retarted? Is this just a joke that I'm not getting?
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| Dave Noisy |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 10:25:25
Mnay thanks Brian!! Do you have a source for that, or should i just consider it 'dubious at best'..?
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| Coldheartofstone |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 10:12:52
HAHahaha....jolly good.
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| ramona |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 10:07:58
Here's a map I like. 
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| Carl |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 08:50:45
A Sky News map during the election gave the simple, obvious view;blue on the coastlines and red for the midwest/south. But of course a high percentage of people voted for Kerry everywhere. Not high enough, obviously. |
| Broken Face |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 07:48:21
State Avg. IQ vs. Election 2004
1 Connecticut 113 Kerry
2 Massachusetts 111 Kerry
3 New Jersey 111 Kerry
4 New York 109 Kerry
5 Rhode Island 107 Kerry
6 Hawaii 106 Kerry
7 Maryland 105 Kerry
8 New Hampshire 105 Kerry
9 Illinois 104 Kerry
10 Delaware 103 Kerry
11 Minnesota 102 Kerry
12 Vermont 102 Kerry
13 Washington 102 Kerry
14 California 101 Kerry
15 Pennsylvania 101 Kerry
16 Maine 100 Kerry
17 Virginia 100 Bush
18 Wisconsin 100 Kerry
19 Colorado 99 Bush
20 Iowa 99 "---"
21 Michigan 99 Kerry
22 Nevada 99 Bush
23 Ohio 99 Bush
24 Oregon 99 Kerry
25 Alaska 98 Bush
26 Florida 98 Bush
27 Missouri 98 Bush
28 Kansas 96 Bush
29 Nebraska 95 Bush
30 Arizona 94 Bush
31 Indiana 94 Bush
32 Tennessee 94 Bush
33 North Carolina 93 Bush
34 West Virginia 93 Bush
35 Arkansas 92 Bush
36 Georgia 92 Bush
37 Kentucky 92 Bush
38 New Mexico 92 "---"
39 North Dakota 92 Bush
40 Texas 92 Bush
41 Alabama 90 Bush
42 Louisiana 90 Bush
43 Montana 90 Bush
44 Oklahoma 90 Bush
45 South Dakota 90 Bush
46 South Carolina 89 Bush
47 Wyoming 89 Bush
48 Idaho 87 Bush
49 Utah 87 Bush
50 Mississippi 85 Bush
-brian
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| El Barto |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 07:12:04
quote:
Originally posted by mdisanto
did you see that chart of average state IQ to presidental vote. The whole top of the list (above 100IQ) is blue, and the entire bottom (down to 85) is red. I'm not sure how scientific that is but there was a similar one for the 2000 election, so they are coming from somewhere.
-miked
This doesn't surprise me at all. That's why I said...IQ should count when voting.
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
| slaveish |
Posted - 11/04/2004 : 22:17:17
George Bush got 18 votes per square mile, while Kerry got 75. I'd say from analyzing the data that the Democrats are more efficient. No who would you rather have managing the federal budget? |
| Sir Mike |
Posted - 11/04/2004 : 22:01:10
See that one red county in Connecticut? That's where I'm from and I can bet you it did go for Bush, that map is pretty damn good and detailed.
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| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 11/04/2004 : 21:50:06
quote:
Originally posted by cvanepps
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
What a surprise. Utah a red state? Well, I never! :)
It never ceases to amaze me how well versed our friends across the sea are in North American life/geography/etc. Or at least American. I wonder how we would fare if we started talking Canadian politics/geography here... :)
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That's really all you need to know! A+.
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| VoVat |
Posted - 11/04/2004 : 19:59:54
quote:
With 1 blue county in Kansas between them.
There are DEMOCRATS in Kansas? Time for the others to get out their pitchforks and drive them back to Massachusetts! Eh, never mind, the next tornado will take care of them anyway.
Why are the Republicans red, anyway? Doesn't red mean communism, which the Republicans think is the most horribly evil thing ever, next to gay people?
As for the IQ thing, well, I do think voting for Bush is pretty dumb, but so is using IQ as a measure of intelligence. The ability to work out logic puzzles isn't exactly what you need to be an informed voter.
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| Dave Noisy |
Posted - 11/04/2004 : 15:13:54
Yeah, Miked - i know there's a map like that out there, would love to see one reflecting this election..!!!
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