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bumblebeeboy2 Posted - 11/03/2004 : 11:23:58
anyone else agree he's kind of underrated? i mean his more recent stuff, completely overrated, and i think that's the problem, it kind of taints his older stuff too. but i'm sat here listening to his best of album (sting & the police stuff) and you'd be hard pressed to find many more bands/artists who would have a best of *this* strong! every song on there is a classic!

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Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 12/23/2004 : 07:38:09
Yeah The Police were good, not so sure about Sting though. Funny you should admit this though Simon after saying that one of the songs on my first compilation CD sounded like Sting (it was actually Peter Gabriel) and you hated it.

Help me! He keeps making me post!

kathryn Posted - 11/08/2004 : 16:25:22
I gotta be fair about it and give Sting props for being in Quadrophenia. Do you accept that as my apology for dirtying your pretty thread, Bumble?

Signed

Still Wearing That Morrissey T-shirt


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BLT Posted - 11/08/2004 : 16:15:09
Klark Kent is the only Police related music I ever put on anymore. I got tired of the Police during the Synchronicity craze and I may never recover.
kathryn Posted - 11/08/2004 : 15:29:35
quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2

oi! take your disgusting talk of morrissey out of my thread about sting!


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Bumble, sweetheart, I love it when you get all righteous and huffy.

Signed,

Wearing a Morrissey T-shirt as I Type This and Pollute Your Precious Stinglehoffer Thread


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hWolsky Posted - 11/08/2004 : 15:27:02
Pfff, talkin 'bout Sting, get a Job you Giks!!!!

I don't need a Cure, I need a Final Solution!

HW
bumblebeeboy2 Posted - 11/08/2004 : 12:53:08
oi! take your disgusting talk of morrissey out of my thread about sting!


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kathryn Posted - 11/08/2004 : 11:24:54
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

The Morrissey song? Which one is that?

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!



Last of the Famous International Playboys.

Gaaaaaad, how I LOVE that song!

Check it out, Stuart!


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Daisy Girl Posted - 11/07/2004 : 17:43:23
I really like the Police... I really like all the literary refrences in the lyrics and the fun poppy tunes.

I like Sting too..I've seen him in concert once... and it was so cool... there was a full moon and he played that one song I think it's called moon over burbon street. I used to go sleep to one side of the Nada Como El Sol in for several months in high school...

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Stuart Posted - 11/07/2004 : 16:46:06
The Morrissey song? Which one is that?

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
kathryn Posted - 11/07/2004 : 05:51:52
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

Chelsea Smile is a form of torture that I believe existed in the East End of London back in 50's. If you see the film The Krays you will see a good example of it. Basically the person being tortured was pinned down, and the corners of their mouth was cut with a sharo knife (in the Krays they use a machete). Pretty barbaric stuff!



This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!



Ooooh, thanks for taking the time to explain, Stu, and thanks for feeding my Krays' obsession. I have a thing for them. Shoudda seen Reggie's obit in the NYTimes. I lectured on it and played the Morrissey song for my students, who didn't quite know what to make of me or my weird little interest in these true gangsters.


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hWolsky Posted - 11/04/2004 : 21:55:13
Police sucks, gimme some U2 or Billy Idol...
No comment

HW
Sir Mike Posted - 11/04/2004 : 21:50:57
The Police are frighteningly wonderful. The band in 1978 played in front of an audience of 6 people in an upstate New York bar, by 1983 they were on top of the music world. Then they just quit at the top of the world... The first two albums are simply amazing because of their simplicity. They get amazing sound out of sparseness and dead space in between notes. Nine-tenths of music is half silence as it would be. The rests between notes are important and they really used those to effect to get the most from what they used in their sparse lines. Drumming was spot-on Copeland can rock out. Sting was at his rawest, purest and best with the Police. His solo work has come to sacrifice content for artsy-ness. But art in any form is not something you set out to do consciously (you don't say I'm gonna make some art today! and suddenly produce a Rembrandt) it comes in a moment or even an instant of inspiration and a realization of sorts. You say "damn this is a good idea!" and start in. Sting apparently used the conscious approach on many solo works but as a result they lack even that artsy-ness they strive for and become a compromise that gains nothing. He has his moments but those old and very spontaneous sounding Police songs kick something big.

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Stuart Posted - 11/04/2004 : 19:23:02
Chelsea Smile is a form of torture that I believe existed in the East End of London back in 50's. If you see the film The Krays you will see a good example of it. Basically the person being tortured was pinned down, and the corners of their mouth was cut with a sharo knife (in the Krays they use a machete). Pretty barbaric stuff!



This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
kathryn Posted - 11/04/2004 : 18:02:18
Dare I ask what a Chelsea Smile is?

BTW, there is nothing anybody can tell me about Phil Collins that will make me like or respect him or his music.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
Stuart Posted - 11/04/2004 : 16:19:36
Hey, don't knock the Collins!

Rumor has it (this is another thing I read somewhere) that when he was young Phil Collins was given the 'Chelsea Smile.' Anyone heard of this before? I have looked at big Phil since reading about this and there don't appear to be any smile scars, so I assume its an urban myth.

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
kathryn Posted - 11/04/2004 : 15:06:38
Don't you people see how he crossed over to the pop-schlock
dark side? The Police were cool back in the early 80s. Really cool.
I stand by my Phil Collins comparison.


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Ziggy Posted - 11/04/2004 : 05:31:31
His solo work has its moments. He's a very talented musician too.
bazza Posted - 11/04/2004 : 04:53:02
quote:
Originally posted by Ebb Vicious


leon was very good.

so were the police.

sting's solo work is pretty spotty and mostly awful.


100% Agreed. I love message in a bottle.

Employee of the month is a good example of how somebody can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
remig Posted - 11/04/2004 : 04:41:19
Quote From Zoolander:

"Hansel: Sting- Sting would be another person who's a hero. The music he's made over the years- i don't really listen to it- but the fact that he's making it, I respect that."



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Stuart Posted - 11/03/2004 : 21:57:30
I read somewhere that Sting can fornicate himself to orgasm without actually making a mess? This is by far his most impressive solo work!

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since the day they were born
Domestiques Posted - 11/03/2004 : 21:45:03
I loathe sting and, I am afraid to say, the police. I cant recall one song particularly by the police that I like. My brother in law probably has the largest collection of police and sting records/memoribilia in the country and he often lectures me on the merits of the man, but no, not for me.

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kathryn Posted - 11/03/2004 : 14:26:37
I agree with the group so far:

Police good (earlier the better)

Herr Schtinglehoffer bad (abducted by the pod people, turned into a Phil Collins clone).

Only MHO, of course.


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Ebb Vicious Posted - 11/03/2004 : 14:05:01

leon was very good.

so were the police.

sting's solo work is pretty spotty and mostly awful.
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 11/03/2004 : 14:00:38
quote:
Originally posted by ramona

I love the song Shape of My Heart, too bad it was in a shitty Billy Baldwin movie.

I like that whole CD actually, although I can't remember what that is right now. If I had energy I would go looking, but I don't.

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Ah, but it was in Leon also, a fine film.


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ramona Posted - 11/03/2004 : 13:56:08
I love the song Shape of My Heart, too bad it was in a shitty Billy Baldwin movie.

I like that whole CD actually, although I can't remember what that is right now. If I had energy I would go looking, but I don't.

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If you don't, then pass me by
And I might even touch your sleeve
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Cheeseman1000 Posted - 11/03/2004 : 13:31:04
I see what you did there, Bumblebeeboy <-> Sting.
Nice.

I like the Police: good band.


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Adam Posted - 11/03/2004 : 12:52:39
I do not think he is underrated in the least. I cannot stand the Police. I cringe everytime I hear Roxanne. Ugh. Sting is easier to take, but, nah.

Free the Heel!
the tolerant Posted - 11/03/2004 : 12:05:43
Must admit I dug Englishman In New York when it came out, that cheesy drum solo puts a smile on my face. sometimes cheese is good.
TheCroutonFuton Posted - 11/03/2004 : 11:57:10
The Police rock.

I'm with Broken Face, though, I can't really get into Sting's solo stuff as much.

Penguins can be bitches too.
Broken Face Posted - 11/03/2004 : 11:55:04
the police are great - not a big fan of sting solo, but the police are fantastic

-brian


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the tolerant Posted - 11/03/2004 : 11:39:16
I'm more of a fan of The Police than Stings solo efforts, but yeah I agree about the Best Of.
Their songs were so simple, and the band too, just bass, drums and a guitar. Always a powerful combination.

i just love the way they have so much space in their songs. They could be loud when they wanted but too could be so soft.
Do-Do-Do...love the verse chords. sting knows how to write a chorus. Walking On The Moon....ah, what am i doing quoting their songs. Too many to mention, the best of is a must have (if you like them that is). And for newbies to their work, a brilliant starting point.

one more, love Tea in the Sahara. The bass is so cool. As always. It's Sting.


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